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Baiting them is a pointless exercise.
Baiting them is a pointless exercise.
Yes.
This is much more powerful:
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!The only way to win arguments with women is to go above their language code.
And don’t give them anything profane they could hook their claws in and take your argument down with.
Instead of calling it the “c~~~ carousel” you can call it:
“Their relentless search for ever better looking or more well earning partners”
Because that’s what it actually is.
OR “women are as loyal as their options”
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Words are like a double edged sword! Depending on who are using them they can be either for creation or destruction! Take a Hitler for example… He was a master at it and see where he took his people.
It’s all a matter of whom is behind the words being spoken.
Personally knowing what I know now I would be careful about teaching powerful semantics to strangers.. one could end up with another type of dictator.
I strive to use words to always help, never destroy! Call it what you will… Good Karma, integrity or worshipping God.
You must own a better Crystal ball than I“C~~~ carousel”: bad, sounds to most people like “I want to limit women’s sexuality / sour grapes / I’m a failed tradcuck”
The f~~~ cares how we “sound to most people”?
Unlike feminism, MGTOW do not need to constantly promote themselves. With something as self evidently beneficial as GYOW, it sells itself.
Going Your Own Way is going beyond giving a f~~~ what other people think.
And honestly, where the f~~~ do people get off trying to shame MGTOW for “limiting women’s sexuality” in the age of #metoo? Isn’t limiting men’s sexuality exactly what feminism is doing, and hoping to profit thereby?
“C~~~ carousel”: bad, sounds to most people like “I want to limit women’s sexuality / sour grapes / I’m a failed tradcuck”
The f~~~ cares how we “sound to most people”?
Unlike feminism, MGTOW do not need to constantly promote themselves. With something as self evidently beneficial as GYOW, it sells itself.
Going Your Own Way is going beyond giving a f~~~ what other people think.
And honestly, where the f~~~ do people get off trying to shame MGTOW for “limiting women’s sexuality” in the age of #metoo? Isn’t limiting men’s sexuality exactly what feminism is doing, and hoping to profit thereby?
Point being that you can’t shout “c~~~ carousel” while in public, so you remain silent. They’re actually silencing you.
You can say “I don’t want invest in an overused pussy” in some situations, and this is MUCH better than being silent.
In other situations you can use “The current law incentives serial monogamy”: still MUCH better than being silent.Feminism is institutionalized and therefore ALLOWED to limit men’s sexuality.
The opposite doesn’t apply.
This is an asimmetric war, and it isn’t going to end within few years.
Being MGTOW is just common sense, it mean that a man who isn’t a moron should be MGTOW but it also mean that being MGTOW doesn’t 100% fully shield us, especially not in the future, since things will get worse – see: new rape law in Sweden, this is dangerous even for all non-monk MGTOW.
I’m not suggesting to push for changes in the law, this is an MRA thing, I’m suggesting to kick the c~~~s in the ass, using the right words, when we’ll be attacked.Macho got the point.
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The main problem I see with most (almost all) men while we have to deal with women is this fetishim to be weaponless.
Words are a weapon, some words can be used, without words we’re silent.
Nobody is going to force you to use those words, you have to be aware that they can be used and that they work, then it’s your choice.Tradcons and christian men have a similar problem with surrogacy and artificial womb: they don’t want men to be able to reproduce without women. Being weaponless is fascinating, it seems.
The c~~~s will IMMEDIATLY use the artifical womb when available (so they don’t get out of shape) AND they’ll also try to forbid men to use it (to not lose their monopoly), the virtue signalling of christians and tradcons isn’t going to stop that, if followed it’s just only going to leave men weaponless.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
When I was going through separation and then divorce I did a lot of studying on interpersonal relationships. The most common theme, and what I’ve taken to apply in many aspects of life, is how to communicate without coming across as judgmental.
Because society has pushed us with the mentality that talking about yourself is selfish, people generally don’t talk about themselves. However, that does not mean that we don’t have a need to express ourselves. Instead of talking about ourselves though, we tend to express ourselves through talking about the actions of others with the implication that it negatively effects us. The implication is often lost as the subject is now more concerned about defending themselves from being judged rather than listening to the statement being made and what that means to the person making the statement.
Judgements imply that there is something wrong with the person being judge. However, a personal statement about what you think and/or feel isn’t a judgement. It can’t be attacked, because how you feel personally can’t be judged. They can judge you, or try and say you have a duty to think and feel differently, but that requires some proof and exposes the judger to being hypocritical.
Take ‘c~~~ carousel’ for example. It’s clearly judgmental and implies there is something wrong with women. No woman is going to consider any truth to that statement, as they will focused on discrediting you to redeem themselves. However, if you say something like…
“I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who has been in lots of relationships before”
…then you aren’t passing judgment. There is nothing for them to defend. All they can do is get more information about how you think and feel, or trying to convince you that you have some sort of duty to date slutty women. If the former, you can continue with more detailed info about how you feel. If they go down the duty route, then they have explain how that duty exists, how that fits in with equality, and why women don’t have a duty to try and be more appealing to what works for me. And they will fail at that. At the very best, they’ll fall on Not All Women are Like That, to admit that you are correct but still hold on to their factious view of the world.
Ok. Then do it.
Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
Nor any unproportioned thought his act.
Be thou familiar but by no means vulgar.
Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them unto thy soul with hoops of steel,
But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
Of each new-hatched, unfledged comrade. Beware
Of entrance to a quarrel, but being in,
Bear ’t that th’ opposèd may beware of thee.
Give every man thy ear but few thy voice.Hamlet Act 1, Scene 3, Page 3
413 years ago and still remains true.If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
When I was going through separation and then divorce I did a lot of studying on interpersonal relationships. The most common theme, and what I’ve taken to apply in many aspects of life, is how to communicate without coming across as judgmental.
Because society has pushed us with the mentality that talking about yourself is selfish, people generally don’t talk about themselves. However, that does not mean that we don’t have a need to express ourselves. Instead of talking about ourselves though, we tend to express ourselves through talking about the actions of others with the implication that it negatively effects us. The implication is often lost as the subject is now more concerned about defending themselves from being judged rather than listening to the statement being made and what that means to the person making the statement.
Judgements imply that there is something wrong with the person being judge. However, a personal statement about what you think and/or feel isn’t a judgement. It can’t be attacked, because how you feel personally can’t be judged. They can judge you, or try and say you have a duty to think and feel differently, but that requires some proof and exposes the judger to being hypocritical.
Take ‘c~~~ carousel’ for example. It’s clearly judgmental and implies there is something wrong with women. No woman is going to consider any truth to that statement, as they will focused on discrediting you to redeem themselves. However, if you say something like…
“I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who has been in lots of relationships before”
…then you aren’t passing judgment. There is nothing for them to defend. All they can do is get more information about how you think and feel, or trying to convince you that you have some sort of duty to date slutty women. If the former, you can continue with more detailed info about how you feel. If they go down the duty route, then they have explain how that duty exists, how that fits in with equality, and why women don’t have a duty to try and be more appealing to what works for me. And they will fail at that. At the very best, they’ll fall on Not All Women are Like That, to admit that you are correct but still hold on to their factious view of the world.
Bingo.
And please notice: I don’t use “a lot of relationships”, I suggest to use “overused pussy”, I’m not being kind, I’m actually doing the maximum damage while still not being judgmental.
Blaming the “c~~~ carousel” sounds bad even to many men: you’re blaming having fun, many men take advantage of the c~~~ carousel.
“I’m not going to invest in a overused pussy” don’t blame other people, it make women dealing with consequences, it highlights to men what is the real trap: having legal duties towards overused pussy carrier.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Point being that you can’t shout “c~~~ carousel” while in public, so you remain silent.
Why not?
This is an asimmetric war,
This is not a war at all.
Feminism and women are not at war with men. They are merely biting the hand that feeds them.
Point being that you can’t shout “c~~~ carousel” while in public, so you remain silent.
Why not?
This is an asimmetric war,
This is not a war at all.
Feminism and women are not at war with men. They are merely biting the hand that feeds them.
Because you’re at risk to lose your job, unless you have your own business or rare skills.
There’s a war out there, their target is all men, and this war isn’t going to end until most men will suffer and then will hit back. It’s not only about relationships and marriage contract, they’re beginning to go after men in education system and in the workplace, one of their goal is to maximize male unemployement to the benefit of female employement.
The good part is that not all men will have to suffer, it’ll suffice 60%-70% to have the reaction.
The bad part is that their tactics are evolving, and a day, even soon, we could be forced to defend ourselves. There’s a chance that they’ll try to fire unmarried men, this will require a harsh reaction, not silence. Without words, when the time will come, those men will be weaponless. With silence, you let them to prepare the evinronment around you to accept a persecution against unmarried men.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Because you’re at risk to lose your job,
Why the f~~~ would you even be talking about this stuff at work in the first place?
There’s a reason it’s called a workplace and not a chitchatplace.
one of their goal is to maximize male unemployement to the benefit of female employement.
But women hate to work.
Because you’re at risk to lose your job,
Why the f~~~ would you even be talking about this stuff at work in the first place?
There’s a reason it’s called a workplace and not a chitchatplace.
one of their goal is to maximize male unemployement to the benefit of female employement.
But women hate to work.
Because they insist on the argument. My situation, however, isn’t standard: it’s almost all men, they think that I’m f~~~ing tons of women and they’re jealous of that, so they try to say that a long-term relationship is better.
Most them are trapped within LTRs, mainly marriage contract, and they would like to see me trapped as well, so they would feel somewhat less miserable.
Their arguments totally lack consistence, a gem:
“If you don’t want to support a woman, you’re a miser, you’re greedy”
But that was months ago, now situation is much better, thanks to “I don’t want invest in an overused pussy”.
The day will come when a couple of women will be hired, we’ll have anti-harassment training and all the things designed to put pressure on men, to make us silent and afraid.
Thanks to my work in the last month, the female employees will not have the support of most men here when they’ll try to bait me or someone else: the overused pussy idea has spread, is rooted in their brain now.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
All of this boils down to is simply using different forms of tact when speaking with different people.
There are advantages to using tact, rather than blurting out whatever may be on your mind.
Blurting things out is what women and children do.
They get away with it because of their status as women and children.
Men can excuse or overlook this kind of speaking if they choose to, but they can make informed decisions about how to deal with them based on the information the woman or child has blurted out.An intelligent man knows that the use of tact will limit the information that would have been given away by blurting, and also limits the way in which the other person will respond to a tactful message, without giving them an avenue to be hostile.
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