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First: this isn’t an attempt to tone policing. This is a discussion.
Second: one of the most powerful weapons of feminism is their use of semantics. They’re very skilled at it. We aren’t feminists, our goals are totally different, we don’t need to change laws, but, still, words matter, because it may happen to a MGHOW to be forced to defend himself. Furthermore, more importantly, a better wording enhances STEALTH skill.I hope we’ll provide examples and thoughts in this topic.
I’ll begin:“The current law incentives serial monogamy”: excellent, you can even say it in the workplace.
“The state give prizes to hypergamy”: very good, but I suggest to not use it in the workplace.
“I’m not going to invest in a overused pussy”: still very good, but with some more limits of application.
“C~~~ carousel”: bad, sounds to most people like “I want to limit women’s sexuality / sour grapes / I’m a failed tradcuck” (three different ideologies interpreting it).See? It’s also a matter of laziness: the shorter and simpler, the worse.
Thoughts?
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one of the most powerful weapons of feminism is their use of semantics. They’re very skilled at it.
Right on the money, they know how to use semantics to corner their opponents!
words matter,
Once a person grasp the potential power of words, sentences… it opens up unexpected doors throughout one’s life!
better wording enhances STEALTH skill.
Better or great vocabulary knowledge gives the power to phrase thoughts in such a manner that it can prevent your opponent from coming up with any decent riposte!
It’s also a matter of laziness:
It obviously takes patience and hard work to accomplish anything worthwhile… and languages obviously require constant efforts in order to acquire, retain and fine tune them.
Thoughts?
Great Topic that would have probably sent OldSage on the war path! 😜
You must own a better Crystal ball than IThe only way to win arguments with women is to go above their language code.
And don’t give them anything profane they could hook their claws in and take your argument down with.
Instead of calling it the “c~~~ carousel” you can call it:
“Their relentless search for ever better looking or more well earning partners”
Because that’s what it actually is.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Another thing, referred to the above example: if your choice is just only between silence and “c~~~ carousel” then you’re going to be silent in most occasions (practically everywhere but in mgtow forum).
Silence can crush our soul, sometimes men need to vent EVEN OUTSIDE MGTOW FORUM.
We aren’t criminals hiding a crime, we’re lawfully making a choice that has very good and RATIONAL motivations.
Hence why the three above alternatives.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
If we had c~~~s here to deal with, I would up my wording and phrasing game by at least two notches…
Until they leave voluntarily. And go to therapy.
That might explain the relatively low tuna count at the moment.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
one of the most powerful weapons of feminism is their use of semantics. They’re very skilled at it.
Right on the money, they know how to use semantics to corner their opponents!
words matter,
Once a person grasp the potential power of words, sentences… it opens up unexpected doors throughout one’s life!
better wording enhances STEALTH skill.
Better or great vocabulary knowledge gives the power to phrase thoughts in such a way that it can prevent your opponent from coming up with any decent riposte!
It’s also a matter of laziness:
It obviously takes patience and hard work to accomplish anything worthwhile… and languages obviously require constant efforts in order to acquire, retain and fine tune them.
Thoughts?
Great Topic that would have probably sent OldSage on the war path! 😜
Thank you, I have some limitations due this isn’t my language, but I want highlight another couple of things:
I’m not a “moderate”, I’m probably more extreme than 99% men here, I just LOOK “moderate”.
With the right wording you can even say: “I want to wipe out all women, leaving men reproducing with artificial wombs and having sex with robots” in front of women in a public place, WITH NO CONSEQUENCES and leaving them doubtful rather than horrorified about it. I did it, it makes you feel MUCH better. But it’s a skill that need some efforts to be built.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
If we had c~~~s here to deal with, I would up my wording and phrasing game by at least two notches…
Until they leave voluntarily. And go to therapy.
That might explain the relatively low tuna count at the moment.
Most men here aren’t retired, they have to still earn money and that often involves to deal with unpleasant people. The worst are manginas, not women: most women are quite easy to be dealt as long as you don’t need access to their pussy.
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I structure my sentences and choose my words the way I want to, although outside of mgtow.com I’m still pleasant and polite with those who show me respect, just the way I was raised.
Disrespect me and it’s full-on Untamed Beast Mode.
I shall not be stepped on.The last thing I want is to worry about who will read me and what they’ll think, that’s voluntary censorship and is no better than putting on the slave collar.
I speak and write three languages fluently and have a full panoply of expressions I can unfurl on anyone’s ass should I choose to but I value my time and efforts way more now than ever before as I have less of it to waste on people who are not even worth my attention.
F~~~’EM and F~~~ OFF work just as well for my purpose.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I structure my sentences and choose my words the way I want to, although outside of mgtow.com I’m still pleasant and polite with those who show me respect, just the way I was raised.
Disrespect me and it’s full-on Untamed Beast Mode.
I shall not be stepped on.Beast mode like saying “f~~~ off” or like saying right in their face that they should be wiped off for the good of mankind?
The last thing I want is to worry about who will read me and what they’ll think, that’s voluntary censorship and is no better than putting on the slave collar.
The main feature of a slave is being silent while he’s being disrepected.
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Interesting thread.
Arming ourselves with useful words for when we might need them in the gynocentrism is a good thing.
Interested to see more examples and learn more about this.Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready
Interesting thread.
Arming ourselves with useful words for when we might need them in the gynocentrism is a good thing.
Interested to see more examples and learn more about this.The topic is meant to share those words, they’re powerful weapons.
You don’t need to drop the other words, just to use the right weapon at the right time.
I have a katana, it’s wonderful, much better than a gun, but I wouldn’t use it against someone with a M16 assault rifle.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Anonymous42To be honest?
“Silence is GOLDEN!”
Chances of f~~~ups: 0%
Chances of it coming back to bite you: 0 %
Chances of it being contorted and misrepresented: 0 %
Chances of finding yourself with that awkward foot in your mouth: 0%
There;s nothing to be gained and everything to loose conversing with the female of our species.
I literally give them nothing! Not even conversation!
The s~~~ always starts somewhere, but not here, let some sucker have the pleasure of navigating that minefield!
Remember, they can call the cops, lie through their teeth, and YOU are the one that gets all the misery they can muster!
Silence is truly golden! Besides, they always say something that just p~~~es me off! Without fail, no exceptions!
The dangers of semantic fetishim and wording laziness.
RAAAAAAPE!!!
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Sometimes you’re in a minefield against your will, sometimes you’re in a minefield due you’re being silent.
Sometimes is for fun – example while I’m at work: all men, most times. No true manginas, no true red pill knowledge. In this case: “I don’t want invest in an overused pussy” works VERY fine, everybody gets the point. It’s spreading red pill.
If I would use “c~~~ carousel” most them wouldn’t get it, someone could even be disappointed. If there’s a woman around: either silence or “The current law incentives serial monogamy” – in the latter case the woman react blaming “harpies” with the typical “I’m not like the other women” attitude, still proving my point WITH THE SURROUNDING MEN (I care about them, her opinion doesn’t matter).Words are a mean, not the goal.
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The dangers of semantic fetishim and wording laziness.
RAAAAAAPE!!!
I actually endorsed and mocked lesbian harassment in the comments of a feminist article in a leftist mainstream newspaper with pre-moderation. The message was published and upvoted, it’s still there.
I had fun of and I supported two lesbian policewomen stripping and touching a feminist activist.“You support rape culture” was the answer of the feminist author.
“Nope, that’s you. I support lesbian rape, rape for real, with full decriminalization, because it’s an innocent and funny thing, victims can’t rape each other. I also support women on women violence” – even that have been published 😀SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Eric says “Silence can crush our soul…We aren’t criminals hiding a crime, we’re lawfully making a choice that has very good and RATIONAL motivations.”. That’s kinda how I feel sometimes but I also understand Towers’ good point that engaging with the feminist nonsense out there can be more trouble than its worth.
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Anonymous42That’s kinda how I feel sometimes but I also understand Towers’ good point that engaging with the feminist nonsense out there can be more trouble than its worth.
Add to all that and women are looking for a reason to denigrate any man they can for any reason they can find!
It’s like trying to talk yourself out of a medieval inquisition, the only way out is in a pine box!
If they were a gun there’s no way to hold them! Everywhere there’s a trigger! Hundreds of hair TRIGGERS! And that’s if you make it through the minefield alive!
Eric says “Silence can crush our soul…We aren’t criminals hiding a crime, we’re lawfully making a choice that has very good and RATIONAL motivations.”. That’s kinda how I feel sometimes but I also understand Towers’ good point that engaging with the feminist nonsense out there can be more trouble than its worth.
I’m mainly meaning: how to talk with other non-red pill men, how to talk when you need to vent outside mgtow.com, those things.
Engaging feminists is useless online and just only meant for fun, however there are some mgtow arguing against feminists in the comments of mgtow youtube videos, in such case using a proper weapon would be more useful: “I’m not going to invest in an overused pussy” highlights a rational choice and the zero worth of such pussy, it’s much better than “c~~~ carousel” – c~~~ carousel highlights that women are having fun, it’s way less hurting and it doesn’t necessarly implies a rational choice.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
That’s kinda how I feel sometimes but I also understand Towers’ good point that engaging with the feminist nonsense out there can be more trouble than its worth.
Add to all that and women are looking for a reason to denigrate any man they can for any reason they can find!
It’s like trying to talk yourself out of a medieval inquisition, the only way out is in a pine box!
If they were a gun there’s no way to hold them! Everywhere there’s a trigger! Hundreds of hair TRIGGERS! And that’s if you make it through the minefield alive!
Women attack just only men who look weak, that’s why they do not attack immigrants. That’s also why #metoo hurted almost exclusively manginas/feminist men and not even an anti-feminist.
Feminists aren’t different: I dealt with them at university, I even forced them to use the wc without the seat. That’s what happen to a feminist who shout in front of me that men should urinate sitting down, she’ll be forced to urinate without the seat and she’ll be mocked for not being able to urinate standing up.
That happened in the feminist hellhole called Sweden, not in an anti-feminist paradise.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Beast mode like saying “f~~~ off” or like saying right in their face that they should be wiped off for the good of mankind?
Wiped off for the good of mankind, that isn’t my call to make.
More like f~~~ off away from my face, and I will not say it more than thrice.The main feature of a slave is being silent while he’s being disrepected.
Exactly.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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