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[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Anonymous wrote:

A vindictive manager after a failed claim is all it would take. This is a non union job, in an at will employment state, with an internation corporation that could give two f~~~s less. Our contract with the employer allows them to also fire us for no reason essentially.

Heartbreaking. It really is.

Un – f~~~in’ – believable. Work yourself to death man for the corn on the end of the stick. You’re reminding me of Boxer from ‘Animal Farm’.

No offense. Take a chance.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

HA HA! If you file an EEO claim and they fire you—that is the BEST thing that could happen; because you then turn around and file ANOTHER EEO claim for retaliation for engaging in a protected activity. That would be a slam dunk EVEN for a white guy!

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

lol Soy, I remember you posting about this chick a little while back. My advice? Go ghost mode on her. Just nod and s~~~ like a bobble head, change the subject often. Give her no ammo. And if you can ask for a different partner, do not give specific reasons for your wanting to do this either. Disarm your opponent at every turn possible in this situation. And yes, recordings of her harassing you in any way would be a big plus if s~~~ ever hit the fan.

I’ve reached the point where I will be changing shifts to get away from her. I do want to create a log for just in case.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

PistolPete wrote:

HA HA! If you file an EEO claim and they fire you—that is the BEST thing that could happen; because you then turn around and file ANOTHER EEO claim for retaliation for engaging in a protected activity. That would be a slam dunk EVEN for a white guy!

An attorney!!!

[Anonymous 0]

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

A vindictive manager after a failed claim is all it would take. This is a non union job, in an at will employment state, with an internation corporation that could give two f~~~s less. Our contract with the employer allows them to also fire us for no reason essentially.

Heartbreaking. It really is.

Un – f~~~in’ – believable. Work yourself to death man for the corn on the end of the stick. You’re reminding me of Boxer from ‘Animal Farm’.

No offense. Take a chance.

I feel like Boxer. You and Pete make a good argument. I’ll look into it more and start keeping a log of this stuff at work.

PistolPete wrote:

HA HA! If you file an EEO claim and they fire you—that is the BEST thing that could happen; because you then turn around and file ANOTHER EEO claim for retaliation for engaging in a protected activity. That would be a slam dunk EVEN for a white guy!

Cant they fire me on an unrelated technicality and Id still be up the creek though? Or is it possible to claim their reasoning is bulls~~~ and have it investigated under suspicion of retaliation?

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Anonymous wrote:

Cant they fire me on an unrelated technicality and Id still be up the creek though? Or is it possible to claim their reasoning is bulls~~~ and have it investigated under suspicion of retaliation?

This is what call pretext. The reason the give for firing you is merely a cover for the real discriminatory reason…They can try it but good luck with that.

[Anonymous 0]

PistolPete wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

Cant they fire me on an unrelated technicality and Id still be up the creek though? Or is it possible to claim their reasoning is bulls~~~ and have it investigated under suspicion of retaliation?

This is what call pretext. The reason the give for firing you is merely a cover for the real discriminatory reason…They can try it but good luck with that.

Thats good to know. I was worried about this one. I take ot pretext does not uphold very well and is incriminating?

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Pretext means they must PROVE their motive for taking the action was non-discriminatory. When it comes to firing someone the most important factor is time–that is how soon after filing was the person fired. The shorter the time the less believable is the pretext.

So if someone is fired within say a week of filing and management claims the motivation was something legit they must prove that the reason is valid AND that others have been treated the same way. So if you are the only one that has ever been fired for the technicality AND it is in close proximity to you filing—their Goose is done.

[Anonymous 0]

PistolPete wrote:

Pretext means they must PROVE their motive for taking the action was non-discriminatory. When it comes to firing someone the most important factor is time–that is how soon after filing was the person fired. The shorter the time the less believable is the pretext.

So if someone is fired within say a week of filing and management claims the motivation was something legit they must prove that the reason is valid AND that others have been treated the same way. So if you are the only one that has ever been fired for the technicality AND it is in close proximity to you filing—their Goose is done.

Thanks Pete, that makes things a lot more clear.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Thanks man—I know the KM doesn’t like members giving out financial/legal/medical advice and such and I hope I did’t cross the line. I was trying to be very general.

If you want an EEO representative—I suggest finding a federal facility near you like a VA hospital and contact the AFGE Local and ask who handles their EEO cases—Reps DO NOT need to be lawyers ANYONE can be a rep. So don’t worry about dropping a ton of $$$ at the outset.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

So don’t worry about dropping a ton of $$$ at the outset.

Cost me nothing to file the claim. Went to the Federal building downtown.

[Anonymous 0]

PistolPete wrote:

Thanks man—I know the KM doesn’t like members giving out financial/legal/medical advice and such and I hope I did’t cross the line. I was trying to be very general.

If you want an EEO representative—I suggest finding a federal facility near you like a VA hospital and contact the AFGE Local and ask who handles their EEO cases—Reps DO NOT need to be lawyers ANYONE can be a rep. So don’t worry about dropping a ton of $$$ at the outset.

You did not cross a line with me. Advice and insight help.

[JVBParticipant]

Self loathing bitch. Chill bro and watch her destroy herself.

Peace is > piece.

[Anonymous 0]

JVB wrote:

Self loathing bitch. Chill bro and watch her destroy herself.

Ill be better once I no longer work with her. She is a misrible piece of work.

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