Thanks, Hello, and My Story

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

Hi, let me start by saying how grateful I am to have found this site. It is amazing how similar everyone’s stories are to what I experienced. When I started reading this site and familiarizing myself with the idea that it is okay to be single – in fact in this sociopolitical environment, it is perhaps the only sane choice – I felt a weight lifted from my shoulders.

My story is similar to others, but unique in some major ways. I’ve gone back and condensed it, removing multiple paragraph, so what you see below is the shortest version I could manage.

I was 34 and had had only a four real relationships in my life: one was three years in college, the other three were 4-6 months each. I was bad at meeting women. I came to the realization that out of desperation for attention, I had been chasing some pretty rough women, and only through pure luck of them being driven away by my white knight routine and choosing to stay on the c~~~ carousel (I’m learning the terms), was I not wrapped up in some horrible relationship/marriage/divorce/child support situation. I had bad judgment. I was making bad decisions. I didn’t want to rely on luck anymore, I wanted to live a healthy life and meet a good woman. So I went to therapy. I learned to be more confident in myself. I learned that I was subconsciously seeking out crazy women because of s~~~ I went through as a kid. I learned that there were good women in my life that I was ignoring because I was blind to them. I felt like I really made progress. But in reality, I had learned just enough to be dangerous.

I met a woman online and we clicked. She was a former member of a religion where people have a lot of kids (I’m trying to preserve SOME anonymity here, since the story is unique). She got pregnant very young and married before the baby came. They stayed married for years and had five more kids. Yes, she had six kids when I met her. Yes. I thought to myself, despite all the kids, this is exactly the type of woman I shouldn’t be running away from – she’s no party girl. In fact after a short stint doing the bar scene after quitting her religion, she had decided not to drink at all. She had big ideas, knew business lingo, claimed to be prudent and determined and ambitious. Why did she have nothing to show for it? Well, she was oppressed by a mean husband who she previously had to stay with for religious reasons.

Skip forward 6 months and we’re getting a quicky marriage. Her living situation with the six kids needed to change, and we felt so confident that we were a great match. We had both never felt so connected. Our plan was that she would quit her dead end hourly wage job and pursue some work from home business opportunities she was excited about. I told her I suspected that once she’d had a few months legwork in these projects, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was bringing home as much as me while working just part time. She talked a big game.

My family helped us exchange my bachelor home for a big house that would accommodate all the kids. I really liked the kids. I was cautiously concerned that it might be challenging to go from 0 to 6 kids, but I felt confident. And indeed, the kids were not a problem. She was the problem.

Within a week of our being married, she started being very cold to me and seemed very upset. It got to the point where I flat out asked her if she regretted marrying me. She became very depressed. I could not do ANYTHING right. She didn’t want me to hang out with my friends or family, and achieved this by either telling me directly or through manipulation. She was a catastrophizer: Every little thing was cause for a blow up. She would start text bombing me while I was at work, saying all kinds of aggressive things, then later after the fight melted down and I left work early to try to patch it up, she would deny that’s what she meant by it yadda yadda over and over and over.

It got to a point where I was missing a lot of work and was distracted or upset while at work. Meanwhile, she had done NOTHING to work toward our plan of her starting her own business – except quit her old job. She wouldn’t leave the house except to go shopping. Her depression lifted when it was time to shop. The bank wouldn’t let me add her to my account. So I just left her my debit card to keep her from melting down. The bank gave her instructions on how to get in touch with the credit review company, find out the problem, rectify it, then come back to the bank. That required a small amount of effort so she never did it. I forgot to mention, when we had the electricity to our house turned on she had a large unpaid prior balance; the same thing happened with the gas company; the same thing happened at the hospital.

The more lazy and depressed she got, the angrier she became at me. I got in trouble for reading. I got in trouble for accidentally falling asleep in the living room. I got in trouble for going to lunch with some friends, even after she said I could. I was going crazy. I started just leaving and staying at a relatives overnight when we had a huge fight a couple times. She hated this and brought it up every day of our marriage after that. You’re not supposed to leave, she’d say, you’re supposed to stay and work it out. Believe me, there was no working anything out with her, even if you just admitted that everything you did was wrong.

Because my family became aware of our problems, she felt embarrassed and angry at me for allowing them to know about it. She laid the guilt into me HARD for this. She said I messed up and now everyone was acting weird toward her. I had to admit, my family was acting weird toward her. I even confronted someone about it. Later I learned that at precisely the same time as she had gotten angry at me for letting my family know about it, she had been secretly texting my stepmom and telling her how sad she was, how bad of a husband I was, how should she deal with me? etc. My stepmom didn’t know whether to tell me or try to talk my wife off the ledge. If my stepmom told me the crazy things she had texted it would have certainly destroyed the marriage, but maybe she could talk sense into her, she thought. Eventually my stepmom told me about the texts once I reached a breaking point on my own. My sister-in-law also told me that my wife complained about me often and had once pulled her aside and broken down in tears over how depressed she was. A few more incidents and a fake suicide attempt later, I was out the door and EVERY member of my family told me DO NOT go back.

There is a lot more to the story, but this is already too long. I loved the kids and miss them (she treated them awful and was very uneven in her parenting, ignoring them for days and then being very strict with them, etc). I successfully got divorced after just over 1 (one) year of marriage. I made her a nice alimony offer so she would leave peacefully and without trying to steal assets from my family. She left. I couldn’t take it. The divorce was 4 months ago and I have blocked her phone/text/email but she manages to get through and is constantly apologizing and begging me to give her another chance. She says it’s all her fault, which is polar opposite to what she said when we were married. It was always my fault, completely. I try to be kind to her and help make sure she has what she needs (since her emotional problems are severe to the point of disability), while not seeing her in person and reiterating constantly that WE ARE DONE. She has good in her, she just has severe mental problems and lack of self-awareness or self control.

Anyway – I’m sorry that’s so long. Believe it or not, I skipped a lot. It feels good to be getting my life back and to have found this forum. Thanks everyone.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome and good you are here.Ouch 6 kids.I did a thread on f~~~ed up vagina’s i am sure you could add a good one there.When going threw a hard time throw in some f~~~ed up humor.welcome

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[joetechParticipant]

6 kids AND religion, too! All those red flags and you jumped in anyway. You’ve got b~~~~…I’ll give you that. Welcome to the club. I’m looking forward to your stories. I’m sure they’re going to be very insightful.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 18]

Tecumseh wrote:

The divorce was 4 months ago and I have blocked her phone/text/email but she manages to get through and is constantly apologizing and begging me to give her another chance. She says it’s all her fault, which is polar opposite to what she said when we were married.

Your ex-wife may be a narcissist. We have had quite a few healthy discussions on those kinds.

Of course, no matter what she says, do not go back to her. Do not let her use the kids as an excuse to drive you to insanity.

You f~~~ed up (by marrying a momma x 6) but you are relatively young, and the emotional rebuilding can start now.

Welcome!

[Anonymous 42]

You have gone where even Mumford O’Crowley hasn’t been!

6 kids? WFT!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome.
If you got out without too much pain that’s a win. Now you just need to shake her off. She will behave well enough with another guy to fool him and restart the cycle.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Herr.KaufmannParticipant 78]

Hey Tecumseh, cheers for sharing your story. You are helping MGTOWs of the present and future.
If I were you, I would head over to Protonmail, arguably the world’s most secure email provider, and grab a .ch email. Then I would change my mobile number and if applicable, drop out from social networking such as Twitter, Facebook and other similar sites. I have done it and it feels good to just bugger off and not come back. Privacy is the key.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Tecumseh wrote:

you’re supposed to stay and work it out.

Aka “When I’m being a bitch, you’re supposed to rack your brain and come up with ways to make me happy.” Statements like this, that I KNOW 99.999% of all women believe, are what keeps me out of the plantation. Welcome brother. Good intro.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

@tecumseh – your story is a SUCCESS STORY. You didn’t stay, in fact it sounds like in the grand scheme of things you exited pretty damn fast. Well Done!

Now, pick up the pieces and live a great life that you deserve.

There are a lot of us trying to excavate ourselves from 20+ s~~~ty marriages to manipulative entitled bitches. You learned early, grasshoppa!

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

Welcome, many of us are here due to encounters with dark triad females, high on psychopathy, narcissm and manipulation tactics. They will not stay out of your life, they have no morals and will breach the agreement. Predators like this are best to be cut from life, if you trust in yourself just ignore her for 1-2 years and she will move to next host, if you think you can slip try to change phone, emails, whatever.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home,Tecunseh,
She sounds bi-polar to me or maybe schitsophrenic. Bi polar meaning she will always make self destructive choices in life and schitsophrenic meaning that she interprets things differently. Google these two conditions to protect yourself in the future and above all, NEVER BE ALONE WITH HER. She can allege anything and your life could be ruined.
From reading your very familiar story, you sound like a guy that is “too nice.” Women will take advantage of “nice guys” every time. Be Aware.
Look forward to hearing from you in the future.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Tecumseh wrote:

She has good in her, she just has severe mental problems and lack of self-awareness or self control.

Think again!
She has NO good in her.
A woman with 6 kids has only ONE issue. It is to take care of her children. Only ONE way. Find a man.

Her only hope is to find a man. You were only the first of many.

Welcome home.

Peace brothers

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

HELL PUT IT ALL UP HERE!!! GET THE STANK DEEP OUT, DON’T HARBOR IT, OR IT WILL FESTER INSIDE YOU LIKE A CANCER, THE LIFTING OF BRICKS OFF YOUR BACK IS JUST THE BEGINING OF HAPPINESS AND JOY TO BE FREE!!! WELCOME TO THE FOLD
LOOK FOREWARD TO MORE.

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Welcome Tecumseh,

let us be your home from now on.

Stories like yours have to make it “out into the world”, so please write everything down in detail.

Tecumseh wrote:

I was out the door and EVERY member of my family told me DO NOT go back.

Golden advice,

do not go back. People like this will hurt you deeper and deeper every time they get the chance to to mess up your life even more.

I know from dealing with sick women that they leave you completely burnt out and it can take years to find your inner self again. But now you are here and that is best that could happen to you.

If you like reading, I’ve started to write my story which might be helpful to you. I happened to be nen-pecked from day one after my birth and that’s how vile women turned me into a lotus flower, rejecting all of their dirt.

It is like getting beaten so many times that your skin turns hard and then even deflects bullets.

Gargamel's 7-part MGTOW story introduction – as a work in progress

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Your a hero brotha! I give you my made up Purple Heart medal! Write it all down so that another guy can benefit. You actually did well my brother. I have to say it: DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SEE HER EVER AGAIN AND FOR F~~~S SAKE NEVER F~~~ HER EVER AGAIN AND DO NOT GO BACK AND SEE THE CHILDREN IN ANY WAY.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

Thank you EVERYONE for the replies. I am so thankful to have found this site. It is such a relief to know I’m not alone in going through this s~~~ – and even more of a relief: that there is a way out.

Those of you who mention mental illness are right on point: Ross Rosenburg’s (sp?) videos on youtube about Borderline Personality Disorder may as well have been written about her specifically. If you haven’t checked out his videos and you’ve dealt with a woman like that, you really should. I am going to start going through the links and items recommended to me above.

Thank you again everyone.

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

Gargamel, I read part 1 last night, really liked it. Looking forward to reading the rest.

[Anonymous 3]

Tecumseh,

Welcome and thanks you for sharing the story.

Tecumseh wrote:

Those of you who mention mental illness are right on point: Ross Rosenburg’s (sp?) videos on youtube about Borderline Personality Disorder may as well have been written about her specifically.

Someone here said once and it sticks in my mind: isn’t strange how all these supposedly psychotic women are able to act perfectly normal to catch a man?

I do not understand this: is it like a switch they turn on and off when they want?

[AttonParticipant]

Too think some dumb f~~~ impregnated her.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Anonymous wrote:

Tecumseh,

Welcome and thanks you for sharing the story.

Tecumseh wrote:

Those of you who mention mental illness are right on point: Ross Rosenburg’s (sp?) videos on youtube about Borderline Personality Disorder may as well have been written about her specifically.

Someone here said once and it sticks in my mind: isn’t strange how all these supposedly psychotic women are able to act perfectly normal to catch a man?

I do not understand this: is it like a switch they turn on and off when they want?

Just like makeup my friend. Only, it’s for the mind. Boys are not subject to putting a mask on from an early age, so we can’t understand. We have to grow up having to demonstrate competency, they grow up desplaying the mask of it.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

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