Some news from Russia.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

From time to time, I read that the United States society stays on the threshold of a civil war. Guys, what you are going to fight for?
Look here, gents. There are only three statements made by local politics in my Oblast. In fact, authorities across Russia make dozens of the same cynical s~~~. And looks like they aren’t going to stop. Of course, people’s anger rises.

Prices have risen by an average of 25 percent in the past year. It’s not so terrible. If, to put it bluntly, you don’t have enough money, you should remember that we are all Russians – we have endured hunger and cold and who knows what else. You need to just think about your own health and start eating less. — Ilya Gaffner, the head of the Sverdlovsk regional legislature’s agriculture committee. (2015)

If a man gets less than 30 thousand rubles salary, it’s not a man, it’s an idler! — Andrey Brusnitsin, a deputy of City Duma. (2016)

The state isn’t obliged anything to you. Your parents are because they gave you a birth, the state didn’t ask them to make children. — Olga Glatskikh, the director of the Department of Youth Politics of Sverdlovsk Oblast (2018)

Well, this Hell must come to the end one day, because Putin promised us that in the case of a nuclear war with the U.S. we’re going to Heaven as martyrs. Loony dutchbag.

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[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Well, this Hell must come to the end one day, because Putin promised us that in the case of a nuclear war with the U.S. we go to Heaven as martyrs. Loony dutchbag.

Dude,
Sorry to hear about the prices and grief over there, but Putin is rich as hell. Some claim he may be the richest man on the planet.

Concerning your “Putin promise:”
I think he been head-banging too much with those crazy’s in the Middle East. It’s all class warfare; ie: the rich against the poor. What country it is does not matter…..

Over here in the US, A civil war over ideas, vis-a-vis individual freedom may happen, but I doubt any serious outcome. In the end, everyone will stop complaining/bitching and go back to their 9-5 to pay the bills.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

In hell we will be in good company.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Suggestius, have you ever lived in the U.S.? I’m just curious what your opinion is on what daily life is like in comparison between Russia and the U.S. From my own research around the internet, my impression is that while the U.S. in theory has more freedoms afforded to its citizens/subjects, in practice Russia allows greater freedom simply because it does not have the infrastructure in place for law enforcement to be everywhere, all the time. My impression also is that the atmosphere is a little different, and that law enforcement simply isn’t motivated to meddle in everyone’s affairs like it is in the U.S.

Is there any truth to my impressions? I’m genuinely curious because I have put serious thought into relocating to Russia at a later point in life. Probably what I will do is retain my U.S. citizenship and just live for several months each year in Russia and then bounce back to the U.S. Maybe I’ll get my Russian passport someday if I do this pattern for a number of years.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[MonkParticipant 16985]

Suggestius wrote:

Well, this Hell must come to the end one day, because Putin promised us that in the case of a nuclear war with the U.S. we’re going to Heaven as martyrs. Loony dutchbag.

Yeltsin was handing Russia over to globalist corporations. Under Putin, Russia is a sovereign nation, which is more than can be said for any country in the EU.

Think about it.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Silver Fox wrote:

have you ever lived in the U.S.? I’m just curious what your opinion is on what daily life is like in comparison between Russia and the U.S.

Of course no. Most of Russians have never been to so far due to financial reasons. I have only $1k on my bank account. My family is me and my retired mother. So, no one gives me a U.S. visa in such conditions. But since I interact with the U.S. citizens for the last 10 years I can say, a daily life is quite the same because humans are similar. But in the rest, you get Russia wrong. Here is not something like the American frontier (with freedom and an open world with possibilities lying over the horizon). Here are pure Medival ages. And you will be treated that way. I thought it’s clear from the quotes I posted.

Russian law enforcement sphere is something as well Medieval. Codes have written for serfs only. Even a low-ranked policeman possess unimaginable power in comparison to a common citizen. Just think about, the most of patrolmen are the yesterday conscripts in the Russian Army, the place where laws despised totally. So, how do you think, do they obey the Law as policemen?

Chairman of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation once said that the servitude (slavery) was a spiritual backbone of the unity of the nation. How does it feel? Also, long time forgotten punitive psychiatry comes back.
Hence, as an American, you will get a Russian passport easily. Jeff Monson is a perfect example of a foreigner who can’t properly connect two words together in Russian and he became a city’s deputy! Because Russia’s authorities wanted to please him. Can you imagine that in the USA? I can’t. Of course, Russia’s authorities violated the Law before, when involved non-citizens who can’t even speak Russian in pro-government street meetings. But making a deputy the person who doesn’t know an official language, it’s something new! That’s what’s called THE RAPE! Rape of the Law, rape of common sense.

People are beginning to notice that if you do not belong to Russian ethnics, it is much easier to obtain the citizenship. Decide yourself, if you wish to live in a state which treats its own common people like the s~~~. And the main question is what for?
If you look for a place free from law enforcement, you definitely in the wrong way. Because here, in Russia, you will be enforced not to the law but to anything that all those Grand Poobahs want you to do.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Monk wrote:

Yeltsin was handing Russia over to globalist corporations. Under Putin, Russia is a sovereign nation, which is more than can be said for any country in the EU.

Think about it.

You yourself believe in the written?

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[bladeParticipant]

They are p~~~ing and moaning about drought and the cost of milk . If they didn’t dismantle local diary farmers then there wouldn’t be a drought problem . Manufactured by big corp to suck money .

Rump steak . I use to eat that just about every second night . Now its a delicacy.

Price of food here is going up fast with less choices of BRANDS .

Fish stocks are depleted . So many sharks i am really looking forward to xmas when the holiday arseholes come and chum the reef . Fished out f~~~ heads . Shark attacks GOOD . F~~~ c~~~s have lost limbs from oyster cuts . Good . Why i say good because they destroyed what they moved here for . Once a small town i watched turn into a city . Breaks my f~~~ing heart .

Rainforests and jungle . Climate change get f~~~ed . Get those university c~~~s up there cleaning out obnoxious weeds . Protesting little f~~~s . One place as a kid the beauty , like paradise . I was like 5 last time i went there and it was hard to get to threw long grass then threw thick jungle . I went back to look for it ages ago . It was all overgrown with lantana and other s~~~ .

C~~~s start going hungry here and s~~~ hits the fan . Will watch from the hill . This s~~~ needs to happen . All these ungrateful motherf~~~ers that have come and destroyed . Foreign and native . F~~~ SYDNEY they f~~~in love money and are pure arseholes who always f~~~ up . The woman are f~~~ around on them when they arrive . Just f~~~in arseholes aviod . Nuke that s~~~ hole .

Hey bro you guys have yetis. We have bigfoot . Wonder what BBQ BIGFOOT tastes like . You could have vodka yeti maranade

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Hey, Blade! Speaking of sharks. I tried to cook one. Probably I did something wrong. I couldn’t swallow even a piece. It tasted bitter!

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[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Thanks for the insights, Suggestius. It is good to get the opinions of people who live in Russia. I will try to visit someday and find out for myself if it suits me or not.

May I ask what you do for a job? And what kinds of things do you enjoy in your spare time?

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Just to clarify how we live. An average working Russian pays (directly and indirectly):
Income tax = 13%
Value-added tax = 20%
Pension Fund = 23% (no one promises you will ever see your money)
Healthcare Insurance = 6%
Total: 62%.
Property taxes, the whole specter of excise duties aren’t included.
Meanwhile, for the last three years, rising prices overrun growth of salaries for 400 percent. And this is not a drama, we saw much worse times just 20 years ago. But deputies, senators, mayors don’t forget to raise their already unbelievable salaries once in a half year, keep saying about the unity of the nation and about enemies across the ocean who are guilty in the happening! 😀

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Silver Fox wrote:

May I ask what you do for a job? And what kinds of things do you enjoy in your spare time?

As you could understand from my complaints, I’m a lawyer. My interests are pretty wide: writing stories is one of them.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Meanwhile in Kremlin. Vladimir 😀 gives a taxation plan’s instructions.

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[MonkParticipant 16985]

Suggestius wrote:

You yourself believe in the written?

That Yeltsin signed over much of Russia’s resources to American corporations is a matter of fact, as is the fact that Putin took them back under Russian control.

Or would you prefer that Russia be raped by foreign speculators?

Nor is the EU the democratic paradise that many outsiders believe it to be. It is a crumbling ruin ruled over by a corrupt and increasingly repressive oligarchy.

That real power now lies in the hands of unelected EU officials can be confirmed by checking any book on constitutional law. As a lawyer, I am sure that you will appreciate that.

[Anonymous 1]

Very interesting to hear from Russia. I have always been fascinated by the USSR. Growing up here in USA in the 1990s we heard rumors of how terrible it was in USSR. I never could tell if it was all just propaganda or not.

I read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn book “The Gulag Archipelago.” Sounds like the USSR was a real nightmare if that is an accurate portrayal of Stalin’s reign.

The most interesting thing for me is the connection between Wallstreet and the Bolshevik revolution. Which Antony C. Sutton covered in his famous book “Wallstreet and the Bolshevik Revolution.”

Suggestius wrote:

Income tax = 13%
Value-added tax = 20%
Pension Fund = 23% (no one promises you will ever see your money)
Healthcare Insurance = 6%
Total: 62%.

In US we pay a state and federal income tax usually totals to about 30%. Sometimes more if you are pulling in a good salary. We don’t have the Value-Added-Tax. All in all I think we pay about the same 60-65%. The pension fund situation is about the same too. I know people who paid in their pension fund for 40 years only to get nothing when it was time for retirement. It looks like it will be the same for me too.

The prices here have been going up all my life. Slowly but steadily. Certainly less than 25% a year though that’s very bad.

Putin seems like a competent leader from what I can tell from the Oliver Stone interviews with him. He seems better than Yeltsin.

Suggestius wrote:

From time to time, I read that the United States society stays on the threshold of a civil war. Guys, what you are going to fight for?

Is the US heading for a Civil War? Maybe, there is a polarization happening in this country. There are powerful interests that would very much like to see a Civil War break out too.

There are people that want to create a “Politically Correct SJW Utopia.” They have support from University and Media companies. They want to force Americans to comply with their new SJW laws that they want to get passed.

On the other side are the Americans that voted for Trump. The Americans that don’t like the direction the country has been going since the Bush and Clinton era. They want to “Make America Great Again.”

Groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter showed they were ready to use violence to gain political power. The USA has many different races of people living here. President Obama antagonized racial tensions in this country like we haven’t seen since the 1960s. Antifa and BLM can now recruit these agitated people quite easily. They have put together a small army of “Black Shirts” that they can use to attack their political enemies. Its the first small step towards a Civil War.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Anonymous wrote:

Sounds like the USSR was a real nightmare

The Union wasn’t a nightmare for those who survived it through. Northern Koreans don’t either consider themselves the slaves. A portrait of Stalin was hanging on the wall at my grandmother’s until her death, whose father was declared as an enemy of the people or something like that, I don’t remember whom exactly he was declared. As I say: USSR is a good example of that what can be done when people with the Moscow Principality’s mentality try to build the 21’th century state. The great idea and s~~~ty execution.

Anonymous wrote:

In US we pay a state and federal income tax usually totals to about 30%. Sometimes more if you are pulling in a good salary. We don’t have the Value-Added-Tax. All in all I think we pay about the same 60-65%.

Actually, that’s exactly what a Putin’s friends gang tried hard to reach for. Just for the next 2 years, my contributory obligations will grow by THIRTY PERCENT!!! In the same time, income isn’t going to change. Hope it won’t fall down at least! Meanwhile, the gang goes even further along with their “competent leader”. Like, make the UNEMPLOYMENT citizens obliged to contribute 20k rub. to Healthcare Insurance (in Russia you cannot reject it). It’s three times more than employed ones pay. In the same time, we have no social support like food stamps or welfare. So, the f~~~ing slavery is coming. We are the lawyers did correctly understand the Chairman of the Constitutional Court back then when with touching nostalgia in the voice he reminded about the spirituality of the servitude in the Russian Empire.
Actually, modern propaganda aims at. Like started a few days ago mass-renaming of airports by the famous names of Imperial Russia.
One example more. The gang works on the project of a law which makes aquarium fish keepers, insects keepers, and other animal keepers by buying the pets to pay the tax, additional to 20% value-added one. Nice? What is the next? Rain tax, breathing tax?

Just so you may understand better, I’ll bring average numbers. 1L of gasoline in Russia costs 50 cents while official salary across the country is $500 (a real number is almost two times lower). After paying out the taxes I have listed, $310 (in fact $150-200) is all you have for further expenses.
I count in American dollars because the “sovereign” Putin’s Russia is an import-dependent country and makes settlements in dollars. In fact, an average single Russian lives survives for 150$ per month. I have to work for a few months to afford myself an average notebook!

Article 7
1. The Russian Federation is a social State whose policy is aimed at creating conditions for a worthy life and a free development of man.
Putin and his gang follow the Constitution and create conditions for their themselves and for their relatives, not for the people of course.

Look here. 33 magnificent buildings (called by people “palaces”) of the Pension Fund of Russian Federation. At least I know where my money goes to.
https://fishki.net/2210358-33-velikolepnyh-zdanija-pensionnogo-fonda-so-vsej-rossii.html

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Monk wrote:

That Yeltsin signed over much of Russia’s resources to American corporations is a matter of fact, as is the fact that Putin took them back under Russian control.

Or would you prefer that Russia be raped by foreign speculators?

Nor is the EU the democratic paradise that many outsiders believe it to be. It is a crumbling ruin ruled over by a corrupt and increasingly repressive oligarchy.

That real power now lies in the hands of unelected EU officials can be confirmed by checking any book on constitutional law. As a lawyer, I am sure that you will appreciate that.

You mean under Putin’s friends’ control. Because now, having our resources back, we pay for everything and much more than in the Yeltsin’s times. Putin’s gang and China are scoffing our country with such greediness as like they are going to lose it tomorrow. If there are no more options I choose the West.

A good example of how Putin treats citizens. A native man complains that he pays 4k rub. transport tax (it’s the four time higher than an average citizen pays) and there is no road from the village to a federal highway and he must get there somehow. Putin laughs and replies, “Why do you need a car if there are no roads? It’s a provocation.” Look at the face of the native. He can’t understand why his president laughs at him. Or correctly to say he can’t completely believe that his president treats him like the s~~~.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Just video. Chinese consume the Taiga in Siberia.

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[MonkParticipant 16985]

Suggestius wrote:

If there are no more options I choose the West.

Look at Detroit in the USA, or any of its equivalents in the UK. The West is nothing like you think it is.

Russia and China are the future.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Monk wrote:

Look at Detroit in the USA, or any of its equivalents in the UK. The West is nothing like you think it is.

Russia and China are the future.

You know, barbarians shepherding their pigs on the streets of Rome were also the future for once the great Rome. I only seriously doubt that such a future could be welcomed by the Romans.
I don’t know much about Great Britain, yet. But what had impressed me in Detroit is a freshly painted fire hydrant amongst all that desolation. The city keeps living after all the happened! I can’t imagine the same in Russia, no matter how I’ll try because I know the reality too much well. Needless to say about the unbelievable level of corruption as well as about communal services are tied with criminals. Things are even simpler. Many officials and common people don’t understand why repaint something over? Or why make lawns in the streets? It’s wiser just to steal the money for yourself. A notable difference between an approach to the making of an environment. In Russia, a spot of wild grass considered a lawn. In Yekaterinburg, the fourth-largest city in the country we HAVE NO the legal definition of what a lawn is!
The result’s below.

They spread soil stuck to the wheels everywhere. The reason why the city got its nickname Mudburg. Also, it’s the only city I know where absolutely pointless to wash a car.
P.S. Americans can make a candy out of s~~~, Mount Trashmore Park. But if you need to restore the natural course of things, then, of course, feel free to call Russians or Chinese.

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