Some Men CHOOSE To Be Enslaved……

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

I have an acquaintance of mine that is of retirement age and he really wants to retire, but claims he can’t retire because his wife spends to much, and they have a mortgage for a house that they don’t need etc.

He has the typical sexless marriage where they tolerate each other, but there really isn’t much more than that as he’s tired of her bitching.

He’s a simple man and could very easily get by living in a small trailer, cheap used car, and he doesn’t need nor want a whole lot of fluff in life.

He knows that I can’t wait til I can ditch my resident bitch, and I have asked him in the past as to WHY he just doesn’t get divorced and live out his days WITHOUT all that luggage. All I have heard is “crickets”…..Oh well, HIS CHOICE.

He doesn’t have to be concerned about child support, alimony, or retirement funds as they pretty much only have a lil equity in a house to split as well as their joint bills.

In other words, HE HAS NOTHING TO LOOSE TO GAIN HIS FREEDOM, but he will probably continue to CHOOSE TO WALOW IN HIS MISERY……

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Branched offParticipant 10928]

I am sorry for your friend. I wonder if she will come for his pension if he divorces her? One way or another pumpkin always wins.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Once he does retire he may find himself so unwelcome in his own home that she files. Right now she’s just clicking the days along, not having to do much. His expectations of her are low enough that she can bear it easily. Add him shuffling around her house with no particular place to be, and suddenly he’s in “her” way, in “her” business, in “her” house. He’ll become too much of an inconvenience to bear. Then he’ll get served. Better to just die in his cubicle someday than face the fact he should have ditched her when the last kid left for college two mortgages ago.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Branched off wrote:

I wonder if she will come for his pension

Unfortunately, largely do to their poor spending choices, they have little more than social security. So, he doesn’t really have anything to protect which makes it even more curious as to why HE CHOOSES TO HANG IN THERE.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Ogre wrote:

Add him shuffling around her house with no particular place to be, and suddenly he’s in “her” way, in “her” business, in “her” house. He’ll become too much of an inconvenience to bear. Then he’ll get served.

I’ve seen this first-hand twice now, both were co-workers that had retired, and within a year, both of their wives filed for divorce.
They lost everything they had worked their entire lives for, including their pensions and 401k.
One came back to work at HALF his salary, the other drives a courtesy car for a local dealership.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2727]

“The astounding fact is that men have, of their own free wills, chosen this path to destruction. Like Adam in the Garden, they picked slavery over the prospect of being alone. They have been led en masse, by the genitals, chortling and gurgling like morons, to their own damnation. They must wear the ball and chain of holy matrimony and eventually accept that they are no longer the masters of their homes or futures. Most have little chance of ever being deprogrammed.”

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Gravel PitParticipant]

they continue prodding on because its the same thing theyve always done for 45 years. And with grand kids in the picture (if there are any) theres always that “image to maintain.” Sometimes, a woman neednt divorce a man to sap him dry. the desire for unfreedom as ol Stardusky put it. They enjoy their servitude. Its like a bragging right.

Fvcking sad as hell because a man will finally retire at 65-70 and he’s so institutionalized from 50 years of slavery that he doesnt know what to do with his time. Maybe he has a new passion, say, for thru hiking and aspires to hike the Appalachian Trail alone, only to find out that any semblance of physical ability to perform is long eroded. So he is stuck. I think Fear and Regret sets in hard, or maybe not, because retired men often say that its the happiest time in their life. For how long though?

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Men need to take responsibility for themselves. If you choose to be enslaved don’t complain about the shackles on your ankles.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[HermitParticipant]

Branched off wrote:

I am sorry for your friend. I wonder if she will come for his pension if he divorces her? One way or another pumpkin always wins.

After telling me that we would both just take what’s ours and cleanly part ways, my x tried to take half of my retirement. Low life creatures. I’m sure the lawyer that we “shared” told her she was “entitled” to half of my retirement that I worked for.

She must’ve known she was going to have a big fight on her hands if she pursued, because after I firmly told her that I would not agree to that, she quickly backed down. I would’ve made it just as hard on her, because I had my own lawyer in waiting who told me that I was entitled to half the property. She would’ve had to sell the house and give me half. Her lawyer was the cheapest in town while my lawyer was also a judge and very capable of destroying hers.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

This is a good thread. Ive been thinking about my Dad. He is 67 next May. Supposed to be retired. He wants to hike the Continental Divide Trail. He has done nothing but talk about it for 2 years. He watches all the videos on Youtube and has bought all the highspeed gear at REI (the sh!ts expensive dude, like a Zpack Tent). He even went out to Colorado for a week and hiked a small portion of the CDT.

It breaks my heart because I fvcking love my Dad. He is a real good guy, cared for my disabled Mom all these years. Id never forgive her if she left him, unless he was the one that wanted to call it quits on their marriage.

But its troubling because IMHO, he lacks the muscle definition in his legs to be a thru hiker. He is rail thin. I dont know, maybe he can practice and build up some strength. It would make him the happiest most accomplished man on Earth to be able to finish the CDT. But I think he will have to settle on being a weekend warrior!

DONT DELAY, RETIRE TODAY!

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Men need to take responsibility for themselves. If you choose to be enslaved don’t complain about the shackles on your ankles.

You dont blame the victim of brainwashing their entire lives, for being brainwashed.

The entire life of a boy and man is brainwashing that your life is not ever going to be complete or fulfilling without being married and having a family.

You think the women have pressure? Jeebus the men don’t even have the smorgasbord of choices available to women. you are fukking utility, an atm, sperm donor, an interchangeable resource ranked fourth behind women, children and pets.

Dont be so damn hard on your fellow man. They have a lifetime of programming fukking them up on multiple levels. Its why mgtow numbers are so small. Damn hard to break out of it.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

XSDBS wrote:

I’ve seen this first-hand twice now, both were co-workers that had retired, and within a year, both of their wives filed for divorce.
They lost everything they had worked their entire lives for, including their pensions and 401k.
One came back to work at HALF his salary, the other drives a courtesy car for a local dealership.

Same thing happened to my dad. Literally the same week he put in his retirement papers at work, my mom filed for divorce. She was a stay at home for most of the marriage, she worked maybe 6-7 years or so after my brother and I were already graduated from high school. She got half of everything, 401k, pension, portion of his SS so hers + his was equal, and equity in paid off house.

The worst part I think was my mom is a bit younger than my dad so my dad could have retired with his full pension 5 years ago, he was just sticking around for the health insurance until my mom got old enough for medicare. To rub a little salt in the wound my mom also got it put into the divorce settlement that if my dad went back to work even after the divorce was finalized, she would get half of whatever he made. Its not all that uncommon for retired people at his company to go back as a contractor for a month or two here and there if they get offered a contract for a project that interests them. Not only did he stick around and work longer on her behalf but if he wanted to do a little something just to keep busy in the winter or whatever, he has to pay her, so hes like f~~~ that I’ll never earn another dime.

In the end though the silver lining is that he lost half his s~~~, but at the same time probably lost 80% of his expenses, plus gained his freedom and doesn’t have to listen to her bulls~~~ anymore.

Gravel Pit wrote:

DONT DELAY, RETIRE TODAY!

Its amazing how much earlier one could potentially afford to retire when they aren’t supporting a wife and/or haven’t been divorce raped.

[WraithParticipant 242]

Although he might not have much money to lose, he still might be afraid to enter the divorce arena. Unless you have FY money and would still have FY money after the settlement, divorce court is a scary place to be.

Or he might believe at some level that unmarried men must be broken or weird, and he doesn’t want to go through life feeling like he looks that way in others’ eyes. There could be lots of reasons.

Instead of trying to talk those guys into it from our perspective, we’d do better to share the occasional story of a man who improved his life after his divorce. Those kinds of inspiring stories would probably help many men surmount whatever is holding them back. In fact, a thread of post-divorce life recoveries would be a good addition to these forums.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I honestly don’t understand why men stay in a loveless, sexless, abusive relationship.

Freedom is so much better.

Wives often don’t want their husbands to retire. (Feel the love.) I worked for a while in Sun City. The divorce rate was sky high.
Damned bitches.

[WraithParticipant 242]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Wives often don’t want their husbands to retire.

It works for the wife when the husband is out hunting down resources and is on tap if she needs anything, leaving the house to be hers. Once he retires and the house isn’t hers the way it used to be, the deal has gone bad for her.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

The government and banks desperately want to keep you on plantation, so they brainwash you in true 1984 fashion. With a “Freedom is Slavery” type mantra, the machine does everything they can to convince you that being a sovereign person is a waste of life doomed to unhappiness. However, talk to a happily “single by choice” person and they will tell you the absolute opposite.

Sovereignty above all else.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Awakened wrote:

In other words, HE HAS NOTHING TO LOOSE TO GAIN HIS FREEDOM, but he will probably continue to CHOOSE TO WALOW IN HIS MISERY……

I have to ask, are you going to be there for him when He is lonely? Who is going to replace his circle of Friends? Are people ever really ready to take that big leap? Freedom comes with consequences. Many good. Some bad. But what is the last thing that people don’t want to change? That would be their lives.

Men get dependent on a person in their lives. Its something that’s hard to break for most men. And in fact its the very reason why we have the world of the west that we enjoy so many good things.

Sometimes, you just don’t want to take care of things. And sometimes, even the small things are hard to let go. Even though, those small things are worthless.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[HermitParticipant]

iMickey503 wrote:

Awakened wrote:

In other words, HE HAS NOTHING TO LOOSE TO GAIN HIS FREEDOM, but he will probably continue to CHOOSE TO WALOW IN HIS MISERY……

I have to ask, are you going to be there for him when He is lonely? Who is going to replace his circle of Friends? Are people ever really ready to take that big leap? Freedom comes with consequences. Many good. Some bad. But what is the last thing that people don’t want to change? That would be their lives.
Men get dependent on a person in their lives. Its something that’s hard to break for most men. And in fact its the very reason why we have the world of the west that we enjoy so many good things.
Sometimes, you just don’t want to take care of things. And sometimes, even the small things are hard to let go. Even though, those small things are worthless.

I was used to living with my family, (wife and son), so the first night in my new house I missed my family……..for about an hour or so. I was so miserable living with that woman that it didn’t take long for me to start enjoying my new freedom of living alone. It was pretty much immediate.

It was also fun setting up house keeping in my brand new home. You don’t realize how much “stuff” you need to live a normal life until you lose it all and have to move. Trash cans in a few rooms…..a broom, mop, various cleaning supplies, a thing to put your bar of soap on/in, plunger for the toilet which you will eventually need…….paper towel holder…..can opener…….. I was using a little “emergency” can opener for quite a while until the x gave me the old electric can opener, claiming that it didn’t work anymore. It’s been working fine for me until recently, but you just have to make sure you push if firmly up into it. It’s one of those under the cabinet can openers which I love, but can’t find them anywhere anymore. All I can find is those that you just sit on the counter.

What I miss the most is that attached two car garage. I don’t have the money to build something like that, so I have a tiny shed now that is packed full with just the motorcycle and riding mower, plus a few tools and such.

As for the “circle of friends”. Nothing has changed. I have the same friends I’ve always had. Marriage didn’t change that. I wasn’t “allowed” to hang out with them as much, but they were still there.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3759]

I always like reading your comforting stories, Hermit. Thanks.

Living alone is the logical thing to do for me since I’ve almost always been a loner. Nothing difficult here.

[HermitParticipant]

SpiderHerder wrote:

I always like reading your comforting stories, Hermit. Thanks.
Living alone is the logical thing to do for me since I’ve almost always been a loner. Nothing difficult here.

No kiddin’. Livin’ alone is the only way to go. I wish I would’ve realized it back in my early 20’s. Would’ve kept me from wasting so much of my life trying to make those stupid relationships work. If I would’ve just kept hopping from girl to girl and not let emotions control me, it would’ve been so much easier and more fun.

I figured it out way too late, but I can still make the best of the years I have left. Things are going great right now. I’ll be goin’ home tonight to my wonderful empty house and make some mashed potatoes and gravy to go with my leftover meatloaf and have some ice cold beer……….or maybe something completely different. That’s one of the great things about living alone. Do whatever, whenever with no b!tch messing up my schit and nagging and complaining.

Freedom……life is wonderful.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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