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And being miserable is YOUR choice.
Get your head out of your ass once in a while. Nothing is black and white. Go tell that to everyone suffering from depression. “It’s all in your head”.
The funeral is not for your mate… its for the people like you who knew him.
If you are feeling guilty for circumstances out of your control, don’t…
Or let your other mates know how you feel before they or you have a funeral.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
If a person is unhappy because they’re alone, then they have much bigger problems than being alone. That comes down to personality. A person has to work on themselves in order to be happy with who THEY are. After all, you’re the one looking in the mirror when you wake up and before you go to sleep at night. You don’t see other people in that reflection. You see yourself. Nobody else will ever make you happy, and you can’t truly bring happiness to others until you’ve first made yourself happy.
And being miserable is YOUR choice.
Get your head out of your ass once in a while. Nothing is black and white. Go tell that to everyone suffering from depression. “It’s all in your head”.
Keymaster is right. And I can say that having battled depression for the last 12 years of my life. I can say that having been around people WITH depression. Being in your head is where the worst stuff happens. It’s okay to visit once in a while, but it’s not a nice place to stay because that’s where depressive thoughts fester. People who battle with depression do so every day, and sometimes it’s a battle to even get out of bed. But that will never change until you start living a POSITIVE life and not a NEGATIVE life. You have to find something, ANYTHING that brings you happiness, and work around that. Expand it however you can so that you have more positivity in your life than negativity.
Haven’t you ever noticed when you’re around negative people, you feel drained physically? Your emotional and physical energy is gone? That’s because people who are negative are like vampires sucking your positive energy away from you, and thus bringing you down. Now notice how your mood changes when you’re around positive upbeat people? Their energy, their mood is infectious, and you enjoy being around them.
Positivity and negativity work on the same premise. It’s a snowball effect. It starts with one negative or positive thing, and snowb~~~~. It grows and grows and grows.. When you find positive things in your life, it grows, and when you’re positive, you find other things to be positive about. Likewise, when you’re negative, you quickly find other things to be negative about, and that very same snowball becomes an avalanche.
Thanks, yeh i told his sister tonight and she seemed really disappointed, but i dont think she appreciated how far id have to come.
F~~~ the funeral – that is just a mob scene anyway. If you have the relationship with the family, find the time in the future when just you and them can get together and remember Edd. That would probably mean more to them.
Anonymous3DYD,
Regarding the funeral I would ask you: who are you trying to show your appreciation for your friend?
Is it him, the family, everybody, God, or just you?
Because if it is for him, God or you, then you might as well go to a pub a take a cold one and toast to him. It can be more meaningful as a formal ceremony with fake friends and family that didnt even care about him when he was alive.
To go to a ceremony is a social demonstration to others.
I think it is strange that you, with all your issues with “people”, should care about what they think.
The oposite of love is not hate, but indiference. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin, the coin of energy spent with others.
You can do anything you want. You can achieve everything. But you need tools for any job, and these tools are you.
And that is what I think KM was adressing.
@DYD I’m there too man. I love your posts, please keep them coming.
The answer, is no.
I’m with DYD on this one. Funerals are designed for you to: “pay your respects”. It is part of the process of letting someone go who mattered to you. It would seem many of our brothers are unforgivably cynical about the “social” aspects of the event. They don’t get that you are not there to “posture” for their benefit, you are there to say goodbye. Since the cause of your absence was something out of your control there is no reason to feel guilty. Your friend would understand.
I’m not sure why KM dumped on you, and your friend–especially at a time like this, that seems uncharacteristically harsh. I agree that the world is a s~~~-hole and the architects of that s~~~-hole are women, all women–let me repeat all women. Thus there is no escaping that reality that they are the cause of most misery in the world. My sincere condolences to you.
Despite what the KM said despising women is NOT silly–its survival.
While I’m sorry you couldn’t make it to your friend’s funeral, DYD, I also know you would have ended up despising the service and everyone associated with it. Rather than mourning your friend and remembering the good times you shared with him, his funeral would have just become another of your many emotional wounds which you never allow to heal.
Rather than twisting yourself into knots over your inability to attend a service you would have loathed, hold your own memorial service for your departed friend. Hold a one man wake if that’s what it takes. Toast his memory, tell the stories of his life, remember him your way and not their way.
Be well.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Despite what the KM said despising women is NOT silly–its survival.
I say it’s “silly”….. because I don’t see how it’s realistic or possible to “despise women” as an entire sex – just like it’s not possible to love them all.
When MGTOW are accused of “misogyny” and “hating women” it is something I will push back on vigorously. Because you, me and DYD don’t need to knock the Starbucks out of women’s hands to “survive”. You don’t pass by a group of women and shout hateful epithets at them. RIGHT???
The popular explosion of MGTOW is partially a REACTION to outrageous misandry visible everywhere in the culture. Just turn on your TV. You’ll never see a group of men sitting around LAUGHING with coffee about slicing up a woman’s vagina and throwing the remains in the dog’s bowl.
You’ll never see a TV audience of men doing this either.
Ever.
So I can’t quietly just nod, accept and agree when he says “I despise women”- because it’s a good bet he already treats women FAR better than they deserve.
And if you treat women better than they deserve, then saying you “despise women” is actually quite dishonest.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.having battled depression
Appreciated your post – and for trying to understand what I meant.
— additionally —
I would first ask a person battling depression if they WANT to arrive at inner peace, happiness and contentment. Many depressives don’t. In fact, it’s characteristic.
If a depressive is “happy”, he/she couldn’t be “depressed” anymore. Then he/she would have to go out into the world and LIVE – which can be depressing.
So does a person suffering from depression WANT to overcome it? If the answer is yes, they can assist themselves at least to a certain extent. If the answer is no, then there’s nothing you can do, really.
So in that way, it IS black and white. They either want to be continue being depressed – or they don’t. That much is “in their own head”.
You can’t get a “little bit” pregnant.
That’s black and white too.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Despite what the KM said despising women is NOT silly–its survival.
I can’t agree, Pete.
While you’d be hard pressed to find a member with a lower opinion of women than mine, I don’t hate or despise women any more than I hate or despise poisonous snakes, flesh-eating bacteria, or earthquakes.
You can’t hate the scorpion you fail to shake out of your boot. It is only acting according to it’s nature and it’s nature means you take precautions.
Women are what they are. I accept that reality and move on. Hating them, despising them, or otherwise giving them “free rent in my head” is an act of futility with no real benefit.
Acknowledging and accepting women’s true nature is an act of survival. Hating and despising them is nothing but an act of self indulgence.
I’ve posted this in the past and I’ll most likely keep posting as long as I live:
“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”
― Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsOur hatred and spite have much more to say about us than about that which we hate hate and despise.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
And if you treat women better than they deserve, then saying you “despise women” is actually quite dishonest.
Well I can assure you I am many things but dishonest is not one of them. I treat ALL women exactly as they deserve. I detest them and I don’t give a fig what anyone thinks about that.
When MGTOW are accused of “misogyny” and “hating women” it is something I will push back on vigorously
Our MGTOW “image” is not something I concern myself with–it is irrelevant, because no f~~~s given what others think of us. If one wishes to place pussy on a pedestal in order to avoid being labeled misogynistic that is their affair, but then that seems a little dishonest isn’t it? How can one go there own way and simultaneously be unduly concerned with how others label them? When one bows to external influences one becomes subject to their manipulations and cannot truly say they are “going their own way”.
Someone I don’t recall started a thread some time ago citing a scientific study that concluded women seek to and enjoy inflicting misery on others. The very definition of evil is taking pleasure from the pain of others. ERGO women are evil. Label it how you will.
Despite what the KM said despising women is NOT silly–its survival.
I can’t agree, Pete.
While you’d be hard pressed to find a member with a lower opinion of women than mine, I don’t hate or despise women any more than I hate or despise poisonous snakes, flesh-eating bacteria, or earthquakes.
You can’t hate the scorpion you fail to shake out of your boot. It is only acting according to it’s nature and it’s nature means you take precautions.
Women are what they are. I accept that reality and move on. Hating them, despising them, or otherwise giving them “free rent in my head” is an act of futility with no real benefit.
Acknowledging and accepting women’s true nature is an act of survival. Hating and despising them is nothing but an act of self indulgence.
I’ve posted this in the past and I’ll most likely keep posting as long as I live:
“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”
― Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsOur hatred and spite have much more to say about us than about that which we hate hate and despise.
Probably one of the best posts here ever, and to boot, Meditations is a great choice to include in it. (I got “Meditations” last year after the ex left)
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
The very definition of evil is taking pleasure from the pain of others. ERGO women are evil. Label it how you will.
I thought that was the definition of sadism.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Our MGTOW “image” is not something I concern myself with–it is irrelevant, because no f~~~s given what others think of us.
It’s projection, yes. but I wasn’t really correcting what others think as much as questioning a man who says he “hates women”…. because I know the difference between THOUGHTS, OPINIONS and ACTIONS.
Women openly ACT as if they hate men and aren’t remotely ashamed of it. Those women don’t have any business using the word “misogyny” in a sentence, anyway.
Rather than caring about denying the accusation from them, they shouldn’t even be permitted to use the word. That’s what I’ll push back on. Trapping a man into fatherhood on purpose – while laughing about it? And men who have a problem with this are “misogynists”? They can just f~~~ off.
I thought that was the definition of sadism.
True.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@DYD I’m there too man. I love your posts, please keep them coming.
Thanks man. Chin up brother its all gunna work out.
Well I can assure you I am many things but dishonest is not one of them.
I most certainly do not think you are dishonest Pete.
I treat ALL women exactly as they deserve. I detest them and I don’t give a fig what anyone thinks about that.
I detest them too, but it’s how I choose to focus my time and energy where we differ.
We all have finite time and energy. Emotions and actions like hate and spite are ultimately sterile and do not help us achieve our goals. Hate is not a good long term strategy.
What do we all advise men who post here wanting revenge? That living well is the best revenge. What do we all advise those who want to scream on street corners, hand out flyers, and write polemics? That living a life other men covet will lead more men to the truth.
Hate and spite are a waste of your time. Hate and spite are little more than small daily acts of revenge. Hate and spite will ultimately gain you nothing.
I long ago accepted the fact that women are monsters. I don’t need to keep reminded myself. It’s an internalized fact like gravity, fire being hot, and water being wet. I live my life and order my activities with that fact in mind, just as I live my life and order my activities with gravity, fire, and water in mind.
What I don’t do is constantly fixate on the monstrous nature of women. Hating means I somehow still care and I no longer care enough to hate because women are not worth hating.
I don’t shake my fist at a thunderstorm, curse at a poison ivy thicket, or hate women. Those things are what they are. I accept that and move on.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I’m not sure why KM dumped on you, and your friend–especially at a time like this, that seems uncharacteristically harsh
I think KM is tired/fed up with my negative posts.
Despite what the KM said despising women is NOT silly–its survival.
I don’t think its silly either. And I don’t care for this ‘be the better man’ s~~~ either that some might abide by. I f~~~ing hate them with a passion and all those that pander to their sick twisted s~~~. It’s everywhere you go. EVERYWHERE. This doesn’t mean I sit at home all day thinking about them, it just means parts of my day are ruined when I have to speak to one or deal with their nasty corruptive s~~~.
I say it’s “silly”….. because I don’t see how it’s realistic or possible to “despise women” as an entire sex – just like it’s not possible to love them all.
I despise them in general. I know for a fact that most of them are dog s~~~. Aids. Worse than disease laden mosquitos. Ruiners of men and families. How can you not hate that? If a man had wronged you that badly you would beat the s~~~ out of him or in some severe cases, kill him. There are the odd few that I don’t hate so much because they come across differently, but we all know they are the same underneath. AWALT.
I would first ask a person battling depression if they WANT to arrive at inner peace, happiness and contentment. Many depressives don’t. In fact, it’s characteristic.
If a depressive is “happy”, he/she couldn’t be “depressed” anymore. Then he/she would have to go out into the world and LIVE – which can be depressing.
Half of my depression is circumstantial so of course I want to be happy. I’d settle for contentment. F~~~ being happy, its a facade in itself. The other part of my depression is a dark gas chamber of misery from my past which I try hard every day to f~~~ing block out.
So in that way, it IS black and white
No, it really is NOT. Look how many Americans are on description drugs for it. Depression is a complex web of comorbidity.
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