So, I now have a YouTube channel up "The Sling of David"

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So much for me saying I wouldn’t be on here as much or posting.  Well, it may be more true.  Different reasons.  As of now, I am going to do a YouTube channel off and on, that can be see as an intersection of MGTOW and Christianity.  I am calling it “The Sling of David”, connected with story of David rejecting the armor Saul wanted to give him in the Old Testament, and deciding to battle the giant his own way, because it worked.

You can see the YouTube channel here, if interested:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOs7g4oEoPwJT_Es-c_inhQ

It will be my own opinions, so you decide for yourself how much it reflects MGTOW or Christianity.  Shred what you disagree with, and do things your own way.  My channel won’t be for everyone.  I do see to be positive though, when I can help it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

Lots of Christians are MGTOW. St. Paul encourages men to be celibate and only to marry if they’re “on fire” – in heat, essentially (to paraphrase). All the priests, bishops, etc. of the Catholic church are celibate. They certainly don’t define themselves by women. St. Paul was a MGTOW.

BTW, what does the red dot in your avatar symbolize?

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Christianity involves rejecting material goods and serving the lord. There are many who are “Christians” but very few disciples of Christ, as in, people that follow the teachings of Christ. Christianity is not MGTOW, to be a disciple you must follow the lord.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

1 Timothy 2: 9-15 (NASB) says:

Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.

Like I said, St. Paul was a MGTOW or at the very least a red pill guy.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Many Christian pastors actually worship the devil and not know it. For example they are ok celebrating Christmas which a pagan holiday. All these so called Christian holidays are actually pagan holiday. You can not be saved if you celebrate these holidays. You’re better off just studying the bible on your own.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Praying to a higher power to show you the way is the opposite of going your own way. Sure, many things in the bible resonate with the MGTOW message, like finding a virtuous woman to be difficult, or the recommendation by Paul to not marry. MGTOW has the freedom to be able to use wisdom from the bible, but a Christian does not have the freedom of MGTOW.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

You can not be saved if you celebrate these holidays.

Who made that rule up? Christmas isn’t a ‘pagan holiday.’ It’s timed to stomp out old pagan religions by being set close to the winter solstice. Some customs were adopted and made Christian. (kinda like how we appropriated Native American culture for sports teams).

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

Praying to a higher power to show you the way is the opposite of going your own way.

Unless God is beaming messages directly to people, every man has to find his own way

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

schizoaffective wrote:

Praying to a higher power to show you the way is the opposite of going your own way.

Unless God is beaming messages directly to people, every man has to find his own way

By Christian belief, God has beamed messages directly to people, in the form of the Bible.

[Helen be DamnedParticipant 480]

Snake wrote:

By Christian belief, God has beamed messages directly to people, in the form of the Bible.

If that’s the case then that is just a guideline that you have to learn to interpret so you are still technically “going your own way,” it’s just another set of guidelines you would be following.

"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

No, it isn’t. What you are saying is essentially the same as “if I marry, but have taken the red pill, I am going my own way”. Marrying is not going your own way and neither is Christianity.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

By Christian belief, God has beamed messages directly to people, in the form of the Bible.

66 books. 73 for the Catholic Bible. There’s infinite ways to interpret it.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Christmas is a pagan holiday from my understanding. Jesus wasn’t born on Dec 25, according to the bible he was born in the fall. The Christians allowed the pagans to join the church by accepting the pagan holiday. Any Christian that knows the bible will tell you so.

Pastor Dowell can explain better than I do. Demons have moved into many religions which is scary, even with Buddhism.

http://www.straitwaytruth.com

http://realtruth.org/articles/169-ttooc.html

You realize Merry Christmas means Happy death of Christ.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

There is not much room for interpretation of Matthew 10. Its instructions are very clear. If you follow these, you are a disciple of Christ, a true Christian. These instructions do not allow you to “go your own way”.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

Snake wrote:

No, it isn’t. What you are saying is essentially the same as “if I marry, but have taken the red pill, I am going my own way”. Marrying is not going your own way and neither is Christianity.

On the other hand, if you’re proscribed from being a Christian, and that’s the way you want to go, are you really going your own way or are you just being a follower?

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

Snake wrote:

There is not much room for interpretation of Matthew 10. Its instructions are very clear. If you follow these, you are a disciple of Christ, a true Christian. These instructions do not allow you to “go your own way”.

I just brushed up on Matthew 10. Those instructions were for the specific people he was talking to, not everybody. That’s how I interpret it anyway (lol) and I’m sure I’m not alone.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

schizoaffective wrote:

Lots of Christians are MGTOW. St. Paul encourages men to be celibate and only to marry if they’re “on fire” – in heat, essentially (to paraphrase). All the priests, bishops, etc. of the Catholic church are celibate. They certainly don’t define themselves by women. St. Paul was a MGTOW. BTW, what does the red dot in your avatar symbolize?

I am trying to turn the MGTOW symbol into a sling, complete with a red pill, but I can’t draw for squat, so I have that.  It is a placeholder for the channel avatar I will use, and I am using it now.  I will look to update it later.  So, that is a red pill now above the path that a MGTOW follows.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

Many Christian pastors actually worship the devil and not know it. For example they are ok celebrating Christmas which a pagan holiday. All these so called Christian holidays are actually pagan holiday. You can not be saved if you celebrate these holidays. You’re better off just studying the bible on your own.

From what I can see in the Bible, it is ok to completely not follow the forms of the world, and be separate, or do them, but then rip out the meaning of them.  What you saw done traditionally was that people took things of the world, as Christians, and replaced the meaning withing.  I don’t care either way personally.  It is the case of reaching for what people know, and using it.  I had reached this conclusion studying a bunch on it, and seeing it didn’t matter.  I see it also as Christians not being Jewish and going into the world, but not being of it.  The food laws is an example.  It is ok now for a Christian to eat pork, eventhough not said Kosher, because God has it as such.

Like, here is a question I would have here: Is it ok to Christianize the non-Christian holiday of Festivus?  I don’t do Christmas as a secular holiday, but may attend service.  I don’t do the tree and so on.  But, I will look to Christianize Festivus, with the giving of the unwanted gifts as a way to give what one doesn’t want to the poor. There is a pole instead of a tree.  There is also the airing of grievances, and can do the feats of strength.  Is this hellbound or not?  It is not of Christ, but I can attempt to make it of christ.

Actually, seeing what you wrote here I see that it can tie into MGTOW to.  How much of the things of the world can a MGTOW be involved with and still go their own way?

Well, I guess one goal I would have for the channel is to end up fostering this discussion, and at least enable men to not fall mindlessly for convention.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

schizoaffective wrote:

Snake wrote:

There is not much room for interpretation of Matthew 10. Its instructions are very clear. If you follow these, you are a disciple of Christ, a true Christian. These instructions do not allow you to “go your own way”.

I just brushed up on Matthew 10. Those instructions were for the specific people he was talking to, not everybody. That’s how I interpret it anyway (lol) and I’m sure I’m not alone.

In the bigger issue here, there is what “go one’s own way” mean in a Christian way?  It doesn’t mean do whatever you want or are driven to.  But then, I would say a mature MGTOW isn’t going to be doing that way anyhow, and will have standards that don’t mean give in to any impulse.  The core meaning related to not marrying does fit in the Christian religion.  The implementation is a different animal.  And this rich debate and discussion I would like to get out there.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[schizoaffectiveParticipant 35]

By the logic of “Christians can’t be MGTOW’s because they follow the lord,” why stop there? Why not “scientists can’t be MGTOW because they follow the scientific method,” or “martial artists can’t be MGTOW because they follow their instructor,” or “workers can’t be MGTOW because they follow their bosses?” Ultimately, everyone’s free to choose.

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