Site Debunking RoK – Name Suggestions?

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

I have in mind to set up a site dedicated to debunking the nonsense posted on Return of Kings. I want to give Shah Daryush and Forney the Fugly a run for their money and maybe a few grey hairs.

My suggestions are as follows:

1) Return of Krap – might backfire as “krap” might be associated with the site’s content
2) The Guillotine – works with the “kings” theme

[MochaParticipant 90]

ReturnOfJesters.com
TheKingsHaveNoClothes.com
ReturnOfRegicide.com
OffWithTheirHeads.com

[RoyDalParticipant]

“PUAs-R-Us.”

By the way, I was just reading Viva la Manosphere headlines and I saw this: ROK & RVF Subject To Persistent DDOS Attacks September 3, 2015.

It looks like Roosh is getting served the same dish that MGTOW.com was a few days ago. Possibly the same attackers. Whatever one thinks of Roosh, I believe he has every right to post it in his blog without being denied his right to freedom of speech. So does MGTOW.com. It’s freedom for all, or freedom for none.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 25]

how about:
return-of-b~~~~.com

your logo could be something like this, but a king with his b~~~~ cut off going in the bin.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

We Hunt the Mammouth has already been taken:
http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/

They do a bunch of stuff against Return of Kings. A bunch of feminist sites do.

It is ok to do a “Watch” site, where you pick out a single subject, like Return of Kings (and Roosh) and end up targeting its content as a critic. I might suggest, however, that you maybe think of things you want to say, as opposed to be a “Watch”. You may want to look into something that speaks positive of MGTOW, and also ends up taking on RooshV and Return of Kings.

I do like OffWithTheirHeads as a suggestion above. Could go French Revolution thing and attack everyone. Maybe have it with a watch the watchers of MGTOW and other critics of MGTOW.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 25]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I do like OffWithTheirHeads as a suggestion above. Could go French Revolution thing and attack everyone. Maybe have it with a watch the watchers of MGTOW and other critics of MGTOW.

That does fit quite well with 17th Century enlightenment philosophers like Dicey and Montesqui etc. The Rule of Law and not of [wo]men. The separation of powers etc.

People compare what’s happening to Nazism as it’s the most recent example, but it’s remarkably close to the events leading up to the French revolution and ultimately the events leading up to American Independence (no taxation without representation and all that).

We have a system of checks and balances in a democracy for a reason, when that’s interfered with like feminists are doing problems happen. In the words of Gregory Bateson “lack of systemic wisdom is always punished”. In France they got their heads chopped off for lack of systemic wisdom.

In England they managed to keep their heads by raining it in a bit and working on the unwritten constitution. In America they threw tea in the harbour (Boston Tea Party) and overthrew the British.

Anybody’s guess how the lack of systemic wisdom is going to backfire on feminists this time, but backfire it will. It’s the laws of nature / systems.

Happy to point you in the right direction of sources if you want to go in that direction. I studied it at degree level.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

The words “systemic wisdom” you used end up being very interesting, and It probably is worth studying more. I am holding a view that we are increasingly growing subjective in how things work, based around personal preferences. and any attempts to appeal to anything that goes against a personal preference is going to be fought. Technology offsets anything that is natural out there, particularly as time goes on. And with all this, is a breakdown in identity in the name of freedom. With this, everyone is going to become their own culture of one, where they have to deal with things.

With this, I see MGTOW, as a way to deal with this, and maybe some sort of systemic wisdom regarding MGTOW can develop. I see the way of MGTOW being a rejection of the systemic wisdom society built itself upon. I see it is increasingly because it hasn’t been working, and economic factors as one, make it so. The core focus of it has been in the area of marriage being broken, but I see from that it extending into other areas related to the past. Other things like getting a professional career, politics, and so on, all fit into this. And even the area of justice, and discrimination have run amok as things have broken down, and you now have an ideological class that exists to be victims.

I am speculating here, but it is worth more study on my part I believe.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Apparently offwiththeirheads.com has been taken, but I do like the name:
http://whois.ws/whois/offwiththeirheads.com

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

RoyDal wrote:

“PUAs-R-Us.”

Ha! I’m leaning toward this. Probably dating myself here, but stick in PUA instead of Toy’s R Us.

Can someone photoshop Forney in a jester costume?

Fuck this planet.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

ShipOfFools was also taken.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Something about RooshV for Vagina….. or some kind of play on words like Rooshter having to do with “the c~~~ of the walk”….. it will come to me eventually….

But I like PUAs Are Us. Deffinetly has a ring to it.

And Cipher, with your silver tongue, there will be no contest.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

The domains are now registered.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Keymaster wrote:

Something about RooshV for Vagina….. or some kind of play on words like Rooshter having to do with “the c~~~ of the walk”….. it will come to me eventually….

But I like PUAs Are Us. Deffinetly has a ring to it.

And Cipher, with your silver tongue, there will be no contest.

Apparently Roosh found that chasing pussy made his life empty, so he is now doing Neo-Masculinity to try to find meaning. He wants to have his name on something before he passes on I guess.

Cipher Highwind wrote:

The domains are now registered.

You registered OffWithTheirHeads? If so, kudos.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 25]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

The words “systemic wisdom” you used end up being very interesting, and It probably is worth studying more.

You may find the book Steps to an Ecology of Mind by Bateson a useful place to start:

http://www.amazon.com/Steps-Ecology-Mind-Anthropology-Epistemology/dp/0226039056/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=06F4CJDFYM2KGGFYV1S6&dpSrc=sims&dpST=_AC_UL320_SR206%2C320_

I had been writing a response to you on something like this in a previous post, but the hack happened so I didn’t get to finish posting it, but I’d save some of it so here goes.

The best way to prevent mgtow being co-opted according to the Law of Requisite Variety is to keep the goal constant and for each mghow to vary his behaviour until the outcome is achieved.

So the goal is ‘living according to his own best interests’. That’s the essence of mgtow. Each man decides what his own best interests are and he varies his behaviour until he achieves that outcome. What is appropriate for a mghow now may not be the same as in 5 to 10 years time.

You can read a free article on the Law of Requisite Variery here written by Dilts and it goes a good overview of its applications. The key point is that there are two ways to deal with variety in a system 1) try to control it 2) adapt.

http://www.slideshare.net/anand2874/the-law-of-requisite-variety-dilts

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am seeing a challenge of interfacing potentially conflicting interests is something that needs to be worked out. I do see collective wisdom helps.

I did start a thread on collective wisdom and MGTOW. Maybe we can move the discussion of that there:
/forums/topic/mgtow-and-collective-wisdom/

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

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