Rumination: "Over Thinking" is the bane of life

[SMADParticipant 651]

OK so, the irony of this post is that I have been thinking…about over thinking.

At this time of my life, it would seem I have WAY too much time to think. When every day feels like a “weekend”, how on Earth does it keep feeling fresh and invigorating?

I have my own little company to work on, plus I have plenty of hobbies and educational courses to work on. Yet I find myself, quite often, in a state of “analysis paralysis” – there is a deep unhappiness within and no amount of hobbies or projects offer any peace.

Being in my early 30’s, I always thought of retirement as “bliss and a break from the world.” But already I am completely and utterly bored. In fact, it almost feels like an element of “boredom breeds inactivity.” I get up, feel bored and therefore can’t be bothered to engage with my hobbies / interests. Can’t wait to find the day nearly over so I can go to sleep. Rinse, repeat.

Does anyone else ever feel like this? What is their philosophy and outlook? Having sovereignty and 100% control of my life is one thing, but it feels very empty and boring. This isn’t necessarily a “no women” thing, but perhaps its part of the red-pill phase? The peace of life is good, in one sense, but damn is it boring.

In fact, dare I say it but…I am tempted to actually start dating just to have “SOME” drama in my life. (I am expecting backlash from this comment so, fire away!)

My previous posts have attracted banter in the past so, I look forward to amusing comments and hopefully some constructive philosophical thought!

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

SMAD wrote:

At this time of my life, it would seem I have WAY too much time to think. When every day feels like a “weekend”, how on Earth doe’s it keep feeling fresh and invigorating?

You are not alone brother. I quit my career as a Mining Engineer to return to my passion in Electronics Engineering. I have another MGTOW friend of mine who is living the exact same lifestyle as I am. Not giving a f~~~ about the system, doing the minimum and just chilling out. We both have “too much” time to think and we think deep. We go for walks and talk about life and how this world is burning up. We both just sit back and observe how everything is falling apart. There is nothing we can do, nor want to do, to change things.

I am a very deep thinker myself and I do frequently fall into analysis paralysis, thinking about life/meaning/purpose/morals etc. At the end of the day I have noticed ONE effective thing, and that is adopting mindfulness. Just observing and trying my best not to judge myself nor others. Just sitting and watching all the little details as they unfold.

Watch this awesome video man:

No matter what we do, it will always come to an end and be unsatisfactory. When you said that you want to get back into the dating scene in order to create drama, I can understand why you feel this way. It reminds me of one of Spetsnaz’s videos where he talks about men wanting to get involved in drama to “feel alive” again. To know they are alive and well.

It is hard but whenever I feel lost deep in though patters, I immediately just observe and make this observation like a hobby. Over time it becomes interesting and you start to let go of those “grand” goals you once had, originally drilled into your head during your blue pill days. I actually talked about this issue with my friend last night. We both came to the conclusion that we just have to allow time to pass by, do what we can to just survive and be happy at a basic level. Whether it be play some video games, go out walking, camping etc. Those old blue pill “goals” are “goals” that just merely fill up your time/distract you from the truth about this world. It is far better, imo, to live a simple life rather than a life filled with illusionary “goals”.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[StealthParticipant 5339]

Yeah man, I do feel this way.

Spinning my wheels

I’m currently resetting by putting myself through P90x, being more selective about the music I listen to (mind-improving stuff only, GIGO), and updating my life plans and making them very specific, visualizing where I want to be.

But increasing your grip on achievement and self-improvement has a catch-22, in that an extreme high-achievement lifestyle actually lacks meaning. When you are totally self-focused, it’s boring. But extreme outward focus is bad too. What I’ve learned from philosophers and experience is that it is better to “un-self” yourself through some amount of socializing, giving or serving charity, religion, art… really plug into anything that is outside of you and bigger than you are, to create meaning for your life. Self-improvement is like constantly sharpening a tool…very important, but incomplete without putting that tool to use somehow for the good of society. IMO this is why men thrive in improving society, while narcissistic, self-absorbed women are bored and unhappy. It might also be why rich people focus on things like charitable giving.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[StealthParticipant 5339]

Aristotle said something like virtue is a mean between extremes, and the happy life is found in pursuing the happy life…

Congratulations on early retirement, btw.
Mr Money Moustache says that being rich and independent is by nature slightly boring,

But much better than the alternatives!

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I always tell people “You’re not bored… you’re boring.”

If you’ve reached a point where you have excess cash and free time to spend but can’t find something meaningful and interesting to do with it, then you should simply go back to work and let someone else direct to generate value for those of us who have the vitality and imagination to actually LIVE our lives.

[Vaginal ManipulationParticipant 10]

I am not sure am I going to be able to help you because I am 21 years old (I will be 22 soon ) and I have become MGTOW a few months ago , but I am going to give you my opinion anyway .

I believe that is just a redpill phase that you are experiencing. Just think about it ! Your whole life you have been watching people following and talking about the same pattern over and over again ( go to school , colledge , find job , get married , have kids ) and before you took the red pill this pattern was probably unconcusly engraved in your head . There is also an bilogicall urge to have sex and to be with a woman and to have kids involved in this . So in my opinion you are felling incomplete because you didn’t follow the same pattern as your friends and the people you know .

When it comes to bordom , I think that boredom is subjective . For example I never liked math and economics before , but I entered economics colledge ( bussines school ) because I didn’t know what am I going to become in the future . I bacically didn’t like anything very much . At first I felt bored and totaly disconnected from everybody and everything and I failed every subject in the first year of colledge . I love raeding though , esspecially quotes from the famous people throughout hysory of mankind . And one day I read a quote from a famous greek philosopher Diogen and he said that If you are feeling lost and don’t know which road to take , just keep walking the road you are already on and the light will appear . I applied that on economics and I finally begun studing .I told myself that nothing is boring and that everything is interesting and suddenly as I practised math and read books from economy it started being interesting to me . I started to like things that I found boring before and I stared passing my exams . So in my oppinion your bordom isn’t because you don’t have anything to do . You said that you have a complete controll over you so I assume that you can do pretty much what you want , so I believe that bordom is mostly in your head .

And having a control over your life is a bliss from my perspective . In fact I envy you . I live in a very corrupted poor country where life standard is very low and you must depend on people and kiss their ass to succeed here . And wages are low , appartmenst and houses are very expencive so if I don’t succedd in my life or go to another country I might end up living with my parents all my life .

Being alone and haveing controll over yourself is ultimate freedom and happines. My goal in live is to be relatively undependended on other people (to be free ) , to have my own flat , my own house , car , have a lots and lots of free time ( early retierment if possible ) , to travel and f~~~ prostituses , dolls and sex robots .

So from what you wrote my oppinion is that you are free and living a MGTOW dream and that your unhappiness is all in your head 🙂

And if you want to date to fill your time and have some drama in your life , that is totally up to you , but you have lots of other alternatives like prostitutes , realistic sex dolls ( look it up , they are hot ) and sex robots are coming in the near future , hehe 🙂 !

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Vaginal Manipulation,

You seem to be a new brother on this website. Welcome man! Please give us an intro about yourself, in the intro section, at your most convenient time. Look forward to discussing ideas bro. We are all here to help, no matter how bad your issues are.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[GeraldParticipant 3628]

My best friend retired at 36. At 38 he was bored, so got a job in the industry he knew and no f~~~s given. He goes in when he wants, leaves when he wants, and if they fire him so what?

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Stealth wrote:

But increasing your grip on achievement and self-improvement has a catch-22, in that an extreme high-achievement lifestyle actually lacks meaning. When you are totally self-focused, it’s boring. But extreme outward focus is bad too.

This is a very interesting point…I did actually try to do some outreach for STEM at local schools but strangely, it seems difficult to give away FREE lessons / teaching sessions, hrmm.

Stealth wrote:

Congratulations on early retirement, btw.
Mr Money Moustache says that being rich and independent is by nature slightly boring,

Stargazer wrote:

I always tell people “You’re not bored… you’re boring.”

If you’ve reached a point where you have excess cash and free time to spend but can’t find something meaningful and interesting to do with it, then you should simply go back to work and let someone else direct to generate value for those of us who have the vitality and imagination to actually LIVE our lives.

Good points above gents, although I certainly wouldn’t class myself as rich / excess cash. It’s essentially bare minimum to just pay bills, etc.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[SMADParticipant 651]

On a side note, does anyone have any thoughts regarding Low Latent Inhibition? A friend mentioned it years ago and I have read up on it with interest…

http://www.lowlatentinhibition.org/what-is-lli/

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Great post. I’ve certainly suffered ‘analysis paralysis’ at times and my dad was terrible with it – so many plans, so little seen through to fruition. The motivational gurus say, do the opposite, as soon as you have the information, take action. Then, if you realise you are doing it wrong, admit your mistake and take action to put it right. ‘Fall forward fast’, but always take action – the only wrong thing to do is nothing.

It won’t overcome the boredom if you have no direction in life but hope that helps. Otherwise, just ask that age old question – if you had all the time and money in the world, what would you do? Then, go do it.

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