Red Pill White Knighting Drama

[Cap285Participant 6007]

You sir, are a better man than I. I would have left her to her doom.

Drunk and coked up! It’s what she wanted.

That’s why I’m evil I guess.

Fuck this planet.

[NO WAYParticipant 87]

@CP
Cold comfort to you,maybe. But I would have done exactly the same. No cops involved. It’s called empathy and we Men we have it.
Plus, I refuse to live my life in fear and avoid doing something I know it’s right. Life it’s too short and I already have lots of regrets
about things I should have done and didn’t out of fear. I learned to control my fears.
Cheers
NW

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

Oneforfreedom wrote:

Also, I would ask one thing- WHY did this female not call her female friends to pick her up? The one whose house you dropped her off at- why didn’t she call that one? Why did she call YOU- her ex-boyfriend?

Someone in another thread posted that “women love to get men fighting”; it is my sentiment that this is the situation playing out here.

I would advise extreme caution in any future interaction with this women, and a full-scale withdrawal from any friendship the two of you have.

@ChauvinstPig

I have no words to describe the level of bulls~~~ that woman put you through.

Or the level of power that pussy she wields still has over you. You call her a “friend” and yet she is not with you, she’s with Chad abusive Thunderc~~~. You’ve been friend-zoned and she used you to escape her own dangerous choices.

If my friend loved cocaine, and I’ve repeatedly told him that it’s a bad choice and he gets in with the wrong group of people and asks for my help, and in the process risks my saftey? That’s no friend, they do not respect you. F~~~ them.

I understand you may not have gone to her house with the intention of getting in her pants, but you still could have died on her behalf because of her wrong choices. No thanks man, I wouldn’t even put up with a male friend who has those issues, let alone some vagina. People have problems, I understand, but when they can result with ME in a hospital with permanent brain damage cuz Chad swung at me with the baseball bat by the door when I wasn’t looking, you have a problem.

MGTOW brother, but you just fouled out, hard.

[OldBillParticipant]

Sorry, CP, but you’re risking yourself for nothing. This wasn’t about helping a friend, this was about allowing yourself to be dragged back into the drama. This is nothing but White Knighting with a steaming heap of rationalizing on the side.

You want to help? Next time tell her to call the cops and/or call the cops yourself. Your “jedi mind trick” isn’t going to work one day and Chad is either going to f~~~ you up or put you down for an eternal dirt nap.

She keep going to back to him despite all the previous incidents and despite all the advice. Let her suffer the consequences because she’s obviously choosing to ignore the danger.

I’ll rescue someone from their own bad decisions once. I’ll educate someone about their own bad decisions once. After that, I’ll let them learn the hard way.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m keeping my lips zipped in our social circle to keep Chad’s honor intact.

You mentioned your social circle a few times in this thread.

If that social circle thinks a drunk cokehead’s “honor” is important and if that social circle thinks calling the cops for a domestic violence incident is wrong, you really need to get a new social circle.

Lay down with dogs and get up with fleas.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

White.knights are.pathethic fool who got nothing goin.on for them, they always checking.out female to assist them.in anyway they can in Exchanges they want that female affection.loloool what a pathethic fools i would only defend a few females if.i have to and thats becauses they are my blood my mother sister and females Cousin and that because they are my blood but any other female hell no

[Anonymous 11]

Thanks Guys,

We’re getting two sides of thought coming through on this.

Exsliventxs wrote:

Or the level of power that pussy she wields still has over you. You call her a “friend” and yet she is not with you, she’s with Chad abusive Thunderc~~~.

As hard to believe as this is she is a friend and the pussy itself wields no power over me. She’s been there for me unasked to help me many times over the years in my trials. She does have serious issues witness Chad which I can do nothing about. It’s her choice and hers alone so I leave it be which is my preference.

I was not too worried about Chad after I engaged him. Chad is paying a big price being with her too. He and I have had man to man discussions on dealing with her crap many times over the years. Chad could hardly stand up straight he was so intoxicated that night so physical attack was next to impossible for him.

I was not maliciously played by her. However, her own stupidity coupled with Chad’s love of abuse placed me in a very precarious situation. I’m not going there again.

As I stated earlier, I’m dropping out for a while as far as they’re concerned. Keep up the advice. I like all of it no matter from what quarter it comes.

I allowed myself to get drawn into a toxic situation. I’m really more worried about the secondary aspects of it which is where I really believe I failed myself. Also, after my friend committed suicide, I vowed to never be passive with my friends in need, I should probably adjust that stance.

[Anonymous 11]

OldBill wrote:

If that social circle thinks a drunk cokehead’s “honor” is important and if that social circle thinks calling the cops for a domestic violence incident is wrong, you really need to get a new social circle.

Bill, I think the same too. I do have other circles I run in too.

OldBill wrote:

She keep going to back to him despite all the previous incidents and despite all the advice. Let her suffer the consequences because she’s obviously choosing to ignore the danger.

I’ll rescue someone from their own bad decisions once. I’ll educate someone about their own bad decisions once. After that, I’ll let them learn the hard way.

This was my once and only for them. I can’t count on my mouth to save me though it’s pretty damn effective. Frankly, calling the cops would have made a serious impression on Chad. I’m not allowing myself to be taken like this again. Chad is a good friend to me when sober, but his party habits have made him less of one. As far as the woman goes, my attitude is that she allows it.

Keep the ass kickings coming and thanks to all. This is all being pasted and studied for a few days as I dip out from them.

There is a lesson here to be learned for me. I learn my lessons well unlike them. I’m not a blithering classic White Knight here, but I should not have been put in the position to have done what I did.

Ultimately, she needs to seek professional services. I am not that service.

I lived to tell the tale and learn.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Anonymous wrote:

my distressed ex damsel with whom I maintain a very close friendship. I know it’s weird, but we really do have a reciprocal relationship

oh boy… so fail. You should get rid of her…shes just using you for her BS.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Hi ChauvinistPig,
Thanks for an interesting story.
I admire your loyalty as a friend.
On the other hand, you exposed yourself to bodily harm, possible legal trouble, stress and drama.
I probably would have done the same thing, although as others have suggested, your personal safety is important. Next time be there for her, but call the police. If you did become involved in an altercation, you might be charged with assault/battery or you might sustain substantial injury by someone on drugs.
The whole situation is stressful – and you don’t need stress in your life.
Maybe next time, take her to dinner or let her crash at your place while at the same time calling the police.
Good luck. (We’ll have to get you a football helmet or something)

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

Anonymous wrote:

Keep the ass kickings coming and thanks to all. This is all being pasted and studied for a few days as I dip out from them.

Chad is not MGTOW, he is under the pussy spell and although you think he’s “your bud” because you’ve had a few drinks and chats, he is still under the veil of the pussy. He may not have been your enemy before, but due to your captain-save-a-hoe routine that’s standing to change.

Now that Miss Pussydrama has successfully utilized her ex against her current BF, she stands poised to manipulate you both for her benefit. She will use you as a threat to him to control his behavior because she can use you as an “out” and available dick to ride. She can use your “thirst” real or not, and perceived “friendship” to manipulate her current relationship with him and still be the “victim” of the entire thing.

You enabled this, and she went back to him because she saw that she could pit the two of you against each other. If the police had been called, maybe she wouldn’t have gone back to him. You enabled her and hurt her as a friend in this situation by not thinking and intervening. The cops WERE the right call.

By helping her, you just hurt her. We all have moments of judgement lapse, but you just gave her all the power out of “guilt” for something someone else did to themselves “suicide” that you have absolutely NO CONTROL OVER in the first place.

Keep it together CP, you’re better than this man.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Bill, I think the same too. I do have other circles I run in too.

I’m glad to hear that.

This was my once and only for them.

And I’m very glad to hear that.

For the record, I don’t think you were a “blithering white knight” in this instance. I do think, however, that you were operating under a slight case of hubris. You know the people involved and you’ve dealt with similar situations before. In your mind it was a case of “Same Old, Same Old”. You were assuming nothing bad would happen and, if it did, you’d be able to handle it.

Take it from an old soldier and AIT instructor, that sort of thinking can kill you.

I’m glad you lived to learn another day.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

OldBill wrote:

Sorry, CP, but you’re risking yourself for nothing. This wasn’t about helping a friend, this was about allowing yourself to be dragged back into the drama. This is nothing but White Knighting with a steaming heap of rationalizing on the side.

You want to help? Next time tell her to call the cops and/or call the cops yourself. Your “jedi mind trick” isn’t going to work one day and Chad is either going to f~~~ you up or put you down for an eternal dirt nap.

She keep going to back to him despite all the previous incidents and despite all the advice. Let her suffer the consequences because she’s obviously choosing to ignore the danger.

I’ll rescue someone from their own bad decisions once. I’ll educate someone about their own bad decisions once. After that, I’ll let them learn the hard way.

I’m with Bill.

Fuck this planet.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

OldBill wrote:

For the record, I don’t think you were a “blithering white knight” in this instance

I second this.

[Anonymous 11]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

On the other hand, you exposed yourself to bodily harm, possible legal trouble, stress and drama.

I dodged the first two. Stress and drama have been heavily pounding me though.

Exsliventxs wrote:

She can use your “thirst” real or not, and perceived “friendship” to manipulate her current relationship with him and still be the “victim” of the entire thing.

I’ve been acutely aware of this possibility the past few days. I’m really enjoying the analysis from you all. I would not put her past using me to manipulate him. Women work this way by nature. She is desperate to keep him. Sick in it’s own right IMHO. I would have punted any c~~~ that treated me that way from the first time.

OldBill wrote:

For the record, I don’t think you were a “blithering white knight” in this instance. I do think, however, that you were operating under a slight case of hubris.

Old Bill, I think you have just brought up something I was unaware of. Hubris is a killer. Thanks as that was the word I was looking for to describe my actions here. I had hubris.

I’m pretty sure I’ve taken no direct damage at this point for it’s been a number of days. I feel like I was used as a power pawn in their sick games..

[Anonymous 11]

don’t do anything at all

That is often the best thing one can do.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hubris is a killer.

That it is, that it is.

I’ve seen hubris kill in firefights and I’ve seen in kill in civilian work. Hubris just isn’t saying “Don’t worry, they couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance…”. Hubris is also thinking that the circuit is de-energized, that you don’t need that harness, and that the valve is shut.

Hubris kills so keep your heads on a swivel, gentlemen.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Anonymous wrote:

Also, after my friend committed suicide, I vowed to never be passive with my friends in need, I should probably adjust that stance.

Please do. Guilt is a dangerous thing, especially if this is your means of reparation. Despite all perceived inaction, you are not responsible for this other person´s suicide. To think otherwise is not fair to yourself. The world is a tough place, and for people who go down that route it´s their own thing and I tell you what at that time they´re not thinking about the dinner you didn´t buy them…

You could get hurt very bad by all this one day, I agree with how people here are saying that you should just distance from this girl, but it´s more than that. It´s about allowing her her own self responsibility. She has chosen Chad. Let them be.
If she needs to call the cops she can. If she doesn´t but she should have, her fault. If she calls you and you don´t call the cops, no sweat! Might be nothing. But if it was something serious, well as was said before some people just have to learn the hard way. The best you can do is to just let them find out for themselves.

Find better friends, friend.
If you´ve invested so much on protecting a woman in your life who you´re not in a relationship with, I am sure you would be able to find something fun to do on your own also. But hey, it´s your time, it´s your life, do -whatever- you think is in your best interests, but for heaven´s sake, don´t waste your time with female mind games.

[Anonymous 11]

tripvan wrote:

It´s about allowing her her own self responsibility. She has chosen Chad. Let them be

Tripvan, she has willingly allowed Chad to do this to her. This is the blowoff of the 20 years of hell she put herself through. I am not responsible for her poor choices.

Will Chad change? Her #1 driver is to save him.. My answer is hell no. Abusive Chads never change.
Will she fix herself? This is possibly her best option. Will she have the guts to do it? That remains to be seen. I am skeptical.
What about me? I have 100% control here. Self preservation always wins out for me. Old Bill is right one and done.

Again, thanks for the red pills gentlemen. This place is like having an older brother who’ll slap you when you need it.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I have a dear friend now who I used to date like 30 years ago. Technically that makes her a new ex but that ship sailed a long time ago. Anyway, if she were to find herself in an abusive situation with her husband, I would go and help her,.. but it would be a one shot deal. “I’ll come get you and make sure you’ve got a place to go but you can’t stay with me until you work this s~~~ out and if you go back, I’m not coming to rescue you a second time,”

Those would be my terms. You get one chance to take the last chopper out of Nam. After that, you’re on your own,

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