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It is no longer “left vs right”, which is a false two side dichotomy. What it is now is populist vs globalist.
Essentially correct. In the Reagan and particularly Bush Sr. era the Republicans sold out to the globalists. (free traders, i.e. free traitors)
Next, in the Clinton era, the Democrats sold out to the globalists. (NAFTA, most-favored nation status for China … gee Walmart – China – Arkansas – Hillary Clinton connections, LOL)
Essentially globalists have been running both political parties which is why they are freaking out over Trump.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
It is no longer “left vs right”, which is a false two side dichotomy. What it is now is populist vs globalist.
Essentially correct. In the Reagan and particularly Bush Sr. era the Republicans sold out to the globalists. (free traders, i.e. free traitors)
Next, in the Clinton era, the Democrats sold out to the globalists. (NAFTA, most-favored nation status for China … gee Walmart – China – Arkansas – Hillary Clinton connections, LOL)
Essentially globalists have been running both political parties which is why they are freaking out over Trump.You are correct on all points.
At the moment, as long as the shutdown continues, things are a stalemate in the U.S. on the populist vs globalist front. That could be a good turn of events for populists.
Pres Trump’s strong point is the economy and budgeting, this is the democrats weak point. Given the rinos in congress handed the house to the democrats, Pres Trump has to deal with them. So, he is using the shutdown to play to his strengths and against the democrats weaknesses.
Presently, watch the Yellow Vest movement around the world, but mainly in France. The globalists that control the French government are getting ready to do massive crack down on the Yellow Vest people whom are just French citizens whom want their country back. In response to these threats of crack downs the Yellow Vest movement is organizing a bank-run.
A bank-run is a trickery issue for bank-run. If the banks allow it they run out of cash, if they limit withdraws the banks risk have no more deposits.
Still a bank-run could start the path to the full collapse of France. It is only a few steps in difference between a bank-run and an open tax revolt, which the Yellow Vest movement is already doing in someways, but not a full scale tax revolt at the moment.
It is no longer “left vs right”, which is a false two side dichotomy. What it is now is populist vs globalist.
I think the correct term would be nationalist vs globalist.
In which case I am nationalist.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
I think the correct term would be nationalist vs globalist.
Actually, I would have previously agreed, but this MAGA, Yellow Vest and other populist movements are spreading out across the world to the point this cannot be defined solely as a nationalist movement.
Also, these movements are mostly made up of working class people.
In this case the situation has become the rich globalists vs the poor working class populists. This has some communist overtones that Karl Marx wrote about.
On a side note, this is how Karl Marx saw his movement, populist people of specific nation take over that nation and help the peoples of other nations take over those nations. At the nation this could be seen as nationalist, but given the spread is over the world this could be seen more of a populist movement. And this belief by Karl Marx is mirrored by what is happening right now.
The situation has truly become, Workers of the World Unite.
In addition, the globalists spent decades using colleges and universities to brainwash the up and coming globalists servants into believing they were “communists”, instead they are as Karl Marx wrote, the opportunistic bourgeoisie class whom only support socialist polices as an excuse enrich themselves by stealing the wealth and means of the working class. The irony being these bourgeoisie have created a communist workers revolution against themselves by the very people they have come to hate exploit.
The poetry of the whole situation makes me want to laugh.
It is no longer “left vs right”, which is a false two side dichotomy. What it is now is populist vs globalist.
Essentially correct. In the Reagan and particularly Bush Sr. era the Republicans sold out to the globalists. (free traders, i.e. free traitors)Next, in the Clinton era, the Democrats sold out to the globalists. (NAFTA, most-favored nation status for China … gee Walmart – China – Arkansas – Hillary Clinton connections, LOL)Essentially globalists have been running both political parties which is why they are freaking out over Trump.
You are correct on all points.
At the moment, as long as the shutdown continues, things are a stalemate in the U.S. on the populist vs globalist front. That could be a good turn of events for populists.
Pres Trump’s strong point is the economy and budgeting, this is the democrats weak point. Given the rinos in congress handed the house to the democrats, Pres Trump has to deal with them. So, he is using the shutdown to play to his strengths and against the democrats weaknesses.
Presently, watch the Yellow Vest movement around the world, but mainly in France. The globalists that control the French government are getting ready to do massive crack down on the Yellow Vest people whom are just French citizens whom want their country back. In response to these threats of crack downs the Yellow Vest movement is organizing a bank-run.
A bank-run is a trickery issue for bank-run. If the banks allow it they run out of cash, if they limit withdraws the banks risk have no more deposits.
Still a bank-run could start the path to the full collapse of France. It is only a few steps in difference between a bank-run and an open tax revolt, which the Yellow Vest movement is already doing in someways, but not a full scale tax revolt at the moment.The elite globalists are dead weight that are parasites on the working class. Even better than a bank-run and a tax-revolt in France would be guillotining hundreds of thousands of globalist elites and their servants. Completely eradicate them, root and stem. Destroy them, destroy their heirs, burn their mansions to the ground, scorch-earth those fkers.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
The elite globalists are dead weight that are parasites on the working class. Even better than a bank-run and a tax-revolt in France would be guillotining hundreds of thousands of globalist elites and their servants. Completely eradicate them, root and stem. Destroy them, destroy their heirs, burn their mansions to the ground, scorch-earth those fkers.
Actually, at the rate things are going, the police and military are more likely to turn on the globalists than purge the French countrymen due them getting no respect, nor overtime pay from the globalists for dealing with French Yellow Vest protests.
,….well the defined word populist is being used a lot by hard core leftist. So even though it is populist in the common man being the core and the for the most part the movement. Nationalism is (at least I think so) more the indirect push to and goal. Which goes outside of movements like yellow vests and into elections like Hungry, Brazil, Italy, and Poland,……..even changes in France, US, Germany and Sweden.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Neither. I am on my side.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805Back in high school senior year I first voted (2000) and I voted for W. Bush. I didn’t know then what side I was on. I was an independent until 2007 when I started watching FOX News and when Obama ran for president and saw what the Left and the right was all about, I decided then there is no way I am supporting the liberal left. The more politics I heard, the more conservative I got.
I think abortion is another term for murder of unborn babies; I want all non white people to leave America; I love Trump with a passion (no I’m not gay); I know there’s 2 genders (the liberals think there’s dozens); I hate seeing people with tattoos, anime-colored hair, piercings that are not in the ear and nose rings; I believe the federal government should tax at a lower rate so people can keep and spend their money more freely; I think healthcare is a responsibility not a right; I’m very pro military and if I had enough spare money just laying around I would donate to the Wounded Warrior Project, they deserve it; I don’t support colleges or universities turning the current generation into a bunch of spineless pussies with their political correctness. In this tough world you need to be strong and tough, not some crybaby who gets offended too easily. I stand for free market capitalism (except Amazon, they can drop dead and let the rest of the retail market survive). Even though I’m living on government benefits and on disability right now, I don’t support socialism, progressives, liberals, feminists, and communists. I believe you have all right to own a gun as long as you don’t deliberately kill someone. Personally I would like to take America back to a time when men ran the country and women would stay at home taking care of the house and kids, and back at a time when getting a job wasn’t so complicating and people actually achieved things easier than now. I hate it when liberals try to change people’s gender by making them transgender, including little kids. I believe you should wear any costume you want on Halloween. I believe you should be able to say Merry Christmas, and call the tree the Christmas tree instead of the Holiday Tree.
Personally I think liberals, progressives, and feminists and socialists have greatly harmed this country while conservatives try to do what’s best for the people.
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Back in high school senior year I first voted (2000) and I voted for W. Bush. I didn’t know then what side I was on. I was an independent until 2007 when I started watching FOX News and when Obama ran for president and saw what the Left and the right was all about, I decided then there is no way I am supporting the liberal left. The more politics I heard, the more conservative I got.
I think abortion is another term for murder of unborn babies; I want all non white people to leave America; I love Trump with a passion (no I’m not gay); I know there’s 2 genders (the liberals think there’s dozens); I hate seeing people with tattoos, anime-colored hair, piercings that are not in the ear and nose rings; I believe the federal government should tax at a lower rate so people can keep and spend their money more freely; I think healthcare is a responsibility not a right; I’m very pro military and if I had enough spare money just laying around I would donate to the Wounded Warrior Project, they deserve it; I don’t support colleges or universities turning the current generation into a bunch of spineless pussies with their political correctness. In this tough world you need to be strong and tough, not some crybaby who gets offended too easily. I stand for free market capitalism (except Amazon, they can drop dead and let the rest of the retail market survive). Even though I’m living on government benefits and on disability right now, I don’t support socialism, progressives, liberals, feminists, and communists. I believe you have all right to own a gun as long as you don’t deliberately kill someone. Personally I would like to take America back to a time when men ran the country and women would stay at home taking care of the house and kids, and back at a time when getting a job wasn’t so complicating and people actually achieved things easier than now. I hate it when liberals try to change people’s gender by making them transgender, including little kids. I believe you should wear any costume you want on Halloween. I believe you should be able to say Merry Christmas, and call the tree the Christmas tree instead of the Holiday Tree.
Personally I think liberals, progressives, and feminists and socialists have greatly harmed this country while conservatives try to do what’s best for the people.I voted for Ross Perot in 1992 (my first election I voted in) because I knew globalism was bulls~~~ and that Bush and Clinton were c~~~s. I was proven correct about globalism
I gave up on elections until 2016, when I switched parties to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primaries because I’d rather elect a communist than a globalist shill c~~~ like Hillary Clinton. I voted for Trump in the general election because f~~~ globalism.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Anonymous1. . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .” Bertrand Russell,1953
I was very disturbed when I first read the “Scientific Outlook” by Bertrand Russell. That and Charles Galton Darwin’s “Next Million Years.”
They openly write about this back then, but still some say “There is no conspiracy.” Keep getting those Vaccines. Keep drinking the Fluoride water. Keep eating at McDonalds. Yeah…Just like Russell knew they would. Perfectly predictable and completely controlled.
After reading Carol Quigley’s magnus opus “Tragedy & Hope” then reading his “Anglo-American Establishment” that changed my political outlook entirely. One little round table group changed the entire 20th Century. That is the Milner Group. Later called the Royal Institute of International Affairs and their American branch the Council on Foreign Relations. There are so many of these groups too. Like the Fabian Society and Frankfurt School.
Feminism didn’t just happen as some natural evolution of society. It was carefully planned and fomented to change us over to a Socialist system. The Rockefeller foundation took over the American School system with the General Board of Education.
We are living through an Agenda so where does that put me on the Political Spectrum?
. . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .” Bertrand Russell,1953
I was very disturbed when I first read the “Scientific Outlook” by Bertrand Russell. That and Charles Galton Darwin’s “Next Million Years.”
They openly write about this back then, but still some say “There is no conspiracy.” Keep getting those Vaccines. Keep drinking the Fluoride water. Keep eating at McDonalds. Yeah…Just like Russell knew they would. Perfectly predictable and completely controlled.
After reading Carol Quigley’s magnus opus “Tragedy & Hope” then reading his “Anglo-American Establishment” that changed my political outlook entirely. One little round table group changed the entire 20th Century. That is the Milner Group. Later called the Royal Institute of International Affairs and their American branch the Council on Foreign Relations. There are so many of these groups too. Like the Fabian Society and Frankfurt School.
Feminism didn’t just happen as some natural evolution of society. It was carefully planned and fomented to change us over to a Socialist system. The Rockefeller foundation took over the American School system with the General Board of Education.
We are living through an Agenda so where does that put me on the Political Spectrum?Where a sheeple lies on the political spectrum simply tells the elites which particular group of elite’s lies the sheeple believes.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I voted for Ross Perot in 1992
So did I. But it turns out, Ross Perot owned EDS, which was the consulting firm that won the bid to print welfare checks. He forked the election. If he won, he was President. If he lost, he knew Clinton’s policies would make his rich.
Trump, also a business man, also forked the election. If he wins, he’s president. If he loses, he gains so much attention, and has a twitter base to sell to – most probably XFL football on his newly created network, would be my guess.
iMickey503 writes: Odd that you have to make a choice. I guess everyone likes parties.
Many people DON’T believe in parties. I’m one of them. Below is a quote from George Washington’s farewell address. Two centuries ago, parties were called ‘factions’. And he viewed them VERY negatively and essentially argues they lead to dictatorship:
“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.” -George Washington
Now, I am ‘libertarian’ in my outlook. So, we believe in small government — an extreme political position — most of use believe government should comprise less than 10% of total economic output. Now, there is a ‘Libertarian’ party, but I’d vote for ANYONE who favors small government and enumerated powers, regardless of ‘party’ label.
Clearly, the ‘Left’ believes in Big Government. I do have one question about the ‘Right’ to ponder. If the ‘Right’ believes in ‘small government’, why has government GROWN in spending and regulation, even when the ‘right’ is in power? Did the ‘right’ not pass the Medicaid drug benefit, the Patriot Act, and bailouts? Does the ‘Right’ reduce welfare to urban residents? Does it even BALANCE THE BUDGET? Does it reduce welfare (farm subsidy payments) to rural residents?
As for me, I believe your ‘vote’ should be multiplied by the NET TAXES paid over your lifetime. So no voting age. If I’m an entrepreneur, and make a million dollars at 12 years of age, you subtract out the spending on me by public schools and other services, from the taxes I paid, and multiply by lifetime taxes paid by my ‘vote’. If I’m 40 and have collected disability for the last 15 years and only worked part time, no vote. Problem solved. And ‘taxes’ paid on a ‘government’ income job DON’T COUNT since the taxPAYER pays their wages/salary. If you’re BELOW ZERO net lifetime taxes, you get NO VOTE… So ‘public workers’ would generally NOT VOTE. True stakeholders = private sector workers who pay for this s~~~show.
And no, there is no more ‘polarization’ than in the past. Read a newspaper from the 1800’s — especially the savage political cartoons. If anything, there is LESS polarization in terms of ACTUAL policy; the right loves mandated social security; so does the left. The left loves medicare and medicaid; so does the right. They also both love foreign military adventurism, the drug war, etc.
Dark Kenshi writes: I am an Anarcho-Capitalist. F~~~ the state, f~~~ the state thugs (police), f~~~ all that s~~~. Personal responsibility is the only way.
That s~~~ system we all are in is completely bulls~~~. Left, right, it is just one and the same, it is all designed to enslave us, so f~~~ that.I am not a slave. No masters, no gods. I go my own way.
I love anarcho-capitalism.
Faust for Science writes: It is no longer “left vs right”, which is a false two side dichotomy. What it is now is populist vs globalist.
This is another important set of factions. And NEITHER believe in the primacy of the INDIVIDUAL or limited government with enumerated powers.
Pres Trump’s strong point is the economy and budgeting, this is the democrats weak point.
Haha, under Trump and his Republican minions, the deficit has BALLOONED 17%. So step away from the TV and the Faux News. The Republican tax cut, will have only short-term benefit because it was NOT accompanied by spending cuts — so it just adds to the deficits and debts…
If you want high growth rates, you SHRINK government so the money can go to the private sector which truly does ‘create jobs’… Something Dems and Republicans WON’T do. And sorry, tariffs will NOT help the US economy long term; read about the Great Depression. Tariffs MAY be useful short-term to negotiate better trade deals but I am questioning even that based upon what we’ve seen so far.
I would argue another important division is also ‘rural vs urban’. That is certainly the case for Yellow Vest, Brexit (think London financial district vs rural and/or industrial Britain), and Red-Blue factions in the US as well of course.
Ranger One: I’m against guillotines. France is a s~~~hole country not because of ‘globalists’, but because government spending is 56.5% of economic output. The French protesters still want free s~~~; they just want someone else to pay for it. So in that, they are no different than Americans, and most assuredly, no friends of Liberty. Remember, they are protesting high taxes, NOT high spending by the public sector.
I think abortion is another term for murder of unborn babies;
It’s the only legal elective medical procedure that terminates a human life other than the person getting the procedure. It should be mandatory for rape and incest victims and women over 35 dumping hundreds of thousands to get goblin babies. It should be mandatory when we know the kid is only ever going to mentally function as a large house pet.
I do like that millions of would-be single moms elect to not string men along for lifetime child support. Kind of a mixed bag.
I want all non white people to leave America; I love Trump with a passion (no I’m not gay);
I don’t care about demographics. I care about ideas. That said, the majority of black America runs on pre-Civil War white redneck culture. If we kill the welfare state, everyone will step up and you won’t care about demographics anymore.
I hate seeing people with tattoos, anime-colored hair, piercings that are not in the ear and nose rings;
I don’t. Poisonous animals employ colorful markings to signify the danger.
I think healthcare is a responsibility not a right;
Your health is a commodity. Healthcare is a service–you are using someone else’s specialization and time, you owe them something in compensation. This isn’t China.
I’m very pro military and if I had enough spare money just laying around I would donate to the Wounded Warrior Project, they deserve it;
Our veterans programs are shameful, but we give an average of 57k a year to illegal aliens just for crossing a damn knee-deep river.
I stand for free market capitalism (except Amazon, they can drop dead and let the rest of the retail market survive).
If and only if it is completely free of government interventionism and regulation. You can only have a monopoly when the government, who has the monopoly on legal force, is involved.
Personally I would like to take America back to a time when men ran the country and women would stay at home taking care of the house and kids, and back at a time when getting a job wasn’t so complicating and people actually achieved things easier than now.
Honestly, I just want women out of the work force unless they’re in that 4% who can actually do the job. The rest show up, wear shear clothing, fish for attention and compliments, slow down productivity, get in the way, and will literally sleep their way as high up the chain as their looks will take them. Hashtag not all.
I know there’s 2 genders (the liberals think there’s dozens);
I hate it when liberals try to change people’s gender by making them transgender, including little kids.
Gender is just a social construct…unless you were born with the original sin of twig and berries.
I believe you should be able to say Merry Christmas, and call the tree the Christmas tree instead of the Holiday Tree.
Christmas has become a secular holiday anyway. Literally none of the iconography, customs, or decorations associated with it have any religious significance anymore. Just enjoy it like Halloween and stop being a miserable prude.
Personally I think liberals, progressives, and feminists and socialists have greatly harmed this country while conservatives try to do what’s best for the people.
Conservatives have done their share of harm. Remember that it was Phyllis Schlafly who blocked the Equal Rights Amendment under the banner of traditional conservatism and how the ERA, which was a mere two states short of being ratified, would cost women unearned privileges and protections (such as immunity to the draft).
I am on my own side. Both liberals and conservatives have what TFM coined as the “gynocentric blind spot.”
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
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