People getting annoyed, even angry when you mention not wanting children

[Anonymous 42]

It’s okay to be as f~~~ed up as a human can be and contract every disease under the sun, but it’s not okay to walk of the plantation?

Yea, sounds gynocentric to me!

Plantation meet fire,

Fire meet plantation,

Now play nice…

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Many people around me look at me with shame that at my age I do not have kids. My fam as well, what’s left of it, also looks down at me. I was once conned into it, but the heavens intervened and my ex-wife wasn’t able to get pregnant. However, yes, I am still looked down upon by many people.

It is what it is. Besides, as much as I am open to having them, I am not open to fighting with the mother in the kangaroo court or having them being used as pawns against me. In addition, I am not sure why, but they are crazy expensive right now. In New York, they are your responsibility to AT LEAST 21, but often until they graduate college. Guess who’s paying for college? Not them.. The parents. Of course, I had to put myself through college. That seems unheard of. You know, back in the day, a person who wants to have the right to go to college needed to work during the day and go at night. That is what I did. Now, they are just lazy. It’s unbelievable.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Misery loves company I suppose.
If someone gets annoyed or angry about anyone else not wanting children, that says more about that person than the ones not wanting children.
IMHO
If you want kids, have them while you are young (before 30 at the latest). That way you can enjoy your later years being child free and live life again.
If you dont want kids, that’s cool too. Enjoy life.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

If they feel so strongly about it, maybe they should offer to jerk you off into a test tube and donate it to a sperm bank. They should should either shut up, or offer a “helping” hand. LOL.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I think a lot of people who are having children are doing it because it was “expected” of them, and they either didn’t have the spine to resist, or their mindset was such that it didn’t even occur to them. They told themselves ‘everyone else is doing it’ and followed the herd.

When they see us willfully childless, perhaps they realize they were duped. They realize there was another choice that was kept from them, or that they were too afraid to take.

Red pills can be unpleasant to swallow. For some, they can be unpleasant to even look at. I am a walking, talking, breathing result of what taking the red pill will do to impact (save) a man’s life. Not everyone is able to see it and be comfortable with it).

Hence the anger.

Personally, since their opinion of me is never going to write me a check, I don’t pay enough attention to notice if they are annoyed with my choices.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 7]

Jackinov wrote:

The second argument they pose is “don’t you want to pass on your genes, your family name”, and when I give the answer that no, passing on the family name and genes is more of an ego stroke as far as I’m concerned- that it is not important to me in the least they claim that it’s some sort of “defeatist attitude”.

I am flirting with 50 years old. My branch of the family tree dies with me.
I thank the powers that be that prevented me from producing spawn.

[Anonymous 7]

sidecar wrote:

Most of those people are those “muh white babies” wannabe nazi s~~~heads.

Sure about that? I know the secret white people handshake and everything, nothing like that has ever come up.

No, it is blue pill, and perhaps religious conditioning. Sprinkled with dried up old t~~~’s desire for grandchildren. Nothing more.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

With everything I intend to do to this planet before I’m done with it, it would be cruel to leave children behind to suffer the remains.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

sidecar wrote:

With everything I intend to do to this planet before I’m done with it, it would be cruel to leave children behind to suffer the remains.

Ahahahah! I think Carnage is rubbing off on you =D

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Anonymous wrote:

My branch of the family tree dies with me.

I’m in the same boat.

I never realized how much pressure I felt about that until a few years ago.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

While I love being around my nephew and nieces, I can’t imagine having to come home from work every single day and have to deal w/a nagging wife, the kids acting up, and NON STOP responsibilities.

It simply never ends.

I’d probably have a heart attack.

Resident cynic.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

Anonymous wrote:

No, it is blue pill, and perhaps religious conditioning. Sprinkled with dried up old t~~~’s desire for grandchildren.

Yah, well, their opinions don’t matter either.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I think Carnage is rubbing off on you =D

Naw. It’s just that the meek will inherit what’s left.

I used to give a f~~~ about global warming etc. Then I realized I don’t have any children to suffer it, so it’s not really my problem. I have no skin in that game, so why should I care? Suddenly a lot of decisions became much clearer: More horsepower or clean air? Vroom vroom. Lush lawn or conserve water? Gotta love that feeling of fresh grass. Agriculturally intensive prime rib or low impact salad? Pass the horseradish.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

I have a daughter and have never regretted having a child.

Even given I already passed on my genes, there is still loads of pressure to have more.
“You can’t just have one”,
“You must find another woman and have more children before it’s too late”,
“Doesn’t (daughter) want a little brother or sister”,
“The right woman is out there for you”, etc.

Since I’ve done “my job” in contributing to the propagation of the species their biological arguments hold no weight.

My (honest) response is – I had a vasectomy within months of my daughter being born and can’t have any more children.

This usually shuts people up but a few times people have said things like “Well, that’s reversible isn’t it? Go and have another operation.” to which the response is “F~~~ off.”

I agree with the notion that this pressure comes through jealousy but would add that children are probably becoming the only remaining leverage over men.
Women want men to be fathers as it gives women money and control.
Governments want men to be fathers for the same reason (taxation etc.).

It isn’t a question of biology, it’s a fear response to men refusing to be controlled and keeping resources.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Ranger One wrote:

If they feel so strongly about it, maybe they should offer to jerk you off into a test tube and donate it to a sperm bank. They should should either shut up, or offer a “helping” hand. LOL.

Silly man.. Don’t you know semen extraction from a wife ends once she’s done replicating? What did you think? Marriage = access to sex? Nonsense. That’s some book of fiction you must be reading.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Hahahaha

Like someone said, i am an monster, but I will not bring my seed to grow in this f~~~ed up world.

Im also the last son of my mother, my brother is dead, my sister refuse to have kids, this s~~~ will end with me.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

hmskl’d wrote:

I don’t want to pass my genes, genetic traits or haircolor to anyone. the end.

Same here, my genes and genetic traits suck, and I don’t want to f~~~ up a mini-me with that bulls~~~. No kids for me << the way I’ve been thinking ever since I was 14. S~~~, that’s already 20 years ago!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[WPLParticipant 2390]

I think that you’re onto one of the root causes with this statement. I live in an area where most people are (or at least pretend to be) deeply religious and where the churches actively encourage large families (a religious person would say that this is to add more followers to the flock; a cynic would say that it has more to do with enriching the churches’ coffers). On top of that, until relatively recently (perhaps as recently as 50 years or so), much of the economy in this region relied on labor-intensive, low-productivity agriculture and more kids meant more free labor, so you end up with a collective mindset wherein a big family is good and a bigger one is better. If you’re over 18 and you don’t have kids here, you’re viewed with mistrust. Personally, I don’t give a damn. When people ask me why I don’t have kids, I tell them that having kids and a goal of retiring early are incompatible.

BrainPilot wrote:

I think a lot of people who are having children are doing it because it was “expected” of them, and they either didn’t have the spine to resist, or their mindset was such that it didn’t even occur to them. They told themselves ‘everyone else is doing it’ and followed the herd.

When they see us willfully childless, perhaps they realize they were duped. They realize there was another choice that was kept from them, or that they were too afraid to take.

Red pills can be unpleasant to swallow. For some, they can be unpleasant to even look at. I am a walking, talking, breathing result of what taking the red pill will do to impact (save) a man’s life. Not everyone is able to see it and be comfortable with it).

Hence the anger.

Personally, since their opinion of me is never going to write me a check, I don’t pay enough attention to notice if they are annoyed with my choices.

[narwhalParticipant]

Jackinov wrote:

The second argument they pose is “don’t you want to pass on your genes, your family name”, and when I give the answer that no, passing on the family name and genes is more of an ego stroke as far as I’m concerned- that it is not important to me in the least they claim that it’s some sort of “defeatist attitude”.

Well duh. Of course they are annoyed or angry after you just called them egotistical. Why would you be surprised by this? You just passed a judgment on them, so they are naturally going to want to defend their position…probably with a judgement on your position.

And I don’t mean this as a knock on you. Absolutely everyone these days can’t seem to express their view or why they think the way they do without passing judgment on a different point of view. In fact, it so prevalent that absolutely everyone is also defensive, and will assume that you’re judging them even when you don’t, or that your next statement will be a judgement. It’s a never ending cycle.

Honestly, I’d say the majority of people don’t really care if you want kids. They are only judging you because of the judgment (perceived or otherwise) they feel about their opposite position. One of the reasons why it’s usually best to just avoid the topic altogether.

Ok. Then do it.

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