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    Paul Craig Roberts Warns “Trump Now A Captive Of The Deep State”

    Paul Craig Roberts
    Institute for Political Economy

    When the gullible and insouciant American public and the presstitutes who participate in the deceptions permitted the Deep State to get away with the fairy tale that a few Saudi Arabians under the direction of Osama bin Laden, but without the support of any government or intelligence agency, were able to outwit the entirety of the Western Alliance and Israel’s Mossad and deliver the greatest humiliation in history to “the world’s only superpower” by making the entirety of the US government dysfunctional on September 11, 2001, Washington learned that it could get away with anything, any illegal and treasonous act, any lie. The gullible Western populations would believe anything that they were told.

    Not only insouciant Americans, but much of the world accepts any statement out of Washington as the truth despite the evidence. If Washington said it, Washington’s vassals in Germany, France, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Belgium, and Japan assent to the obvious lie as if it were the obvious truth. So do the CIA purchased media of these vassal states, a collection of whores who prefer CIA subsidies to truth.

    When Obama inherited the Deep State’s agenda from George W. Bush, he set up Syria’s Assad for regime change by repeating for many months that if Assad used chemical weapons in the “civil war” that Washington had sent ISIS to conduct, Assad would have crossed the “Red Line” that Obama had drawn and would, as the consequence, face an invasion by the US military, just as Iraq had been invaded based on Washington’s lie about “weapons of mass destruction.”

    Having burnt this idea into the feeble minds of the Western populations, Obama then arranged for a chemical weapon to be exploded in Syria and blamed it on Assad. Thus, the Red Line had been crossed, the insouciant West was told, and America would now invade.

    The UK prime minister, the usual piece of Washington-owned garbage, rushed to the support of the American invasion, promising British support. But the British Parliament voted NO. The MPs said that the UK was not going to support another American war crime justified by obvious lies. Only in Britain does democracy still have any teeth, as we saw a second time with the Brexit vote. All the rest of the West lives in vassalage and slavery.

    The Russian government also took a firm stand, admitting that Russia stupidly trusted America in Libya, but no more. We, said the Russians, will ourselves remove any and all chemical weapons from Syria and turn them over to Western “civilization” to be destroyed, which the Russians did.

    What did Western “civilization” do with the weapons? They gave some of them to ISIS. This gave Washington a second chance to accuse Assad of using chemical weapons “against his own people.”

    And so Washington has rolled out this hoax a second time. During a Syrian air force attack on an ISIS position, a chemical weapon exploded, or so it is alleged. Instantly Washington said that Assad had used “Sarin gas against his own people.” Trump was shown photos of dead babies and stupidly ordered a US military strike against Syria.

    This was the first time that Washington had engaged in an unambigious war crime without any cover. Trump had no UN resolution, not even one that could be stood on its head as in Libya. Trump had no NATO participation, no George W. Bush “coalition of the willing” to give cover to the war crime with the support of other governments.

    There are no skirts for Trump to hid behind. He stupidly let himself be pushed into commiting an unambigious war crime.

    Now all his opponents—the Deep State, the military/security complex, the CIA, the Hillary Democrats, the warmonger Republicans—have the New White House Fool under their control. If Trump doesn’t do as they want, they will impeach him for his war crime.

    Meanwhile the risk of war with the Russian/Chinese/Iranian/Syrian alliance grows closer. The US shows every intention of provoking this war. Washington has imposed sanctions on 271 employees of Syria’s Scientific Studies and Research Center for, in Washington’s lying words, responsibility “for developing and producing non-conventional weapons and the means to deliver them.”

    In order to make this false charge stick, Washington prevented any investigation whatsoever into the facts of the alleged chemical weapon associated by Western propaganda, not by any known fact, with a Syrian air attack on ISIS. If Washington is so certain that Syria is responsible, why does Washington block an investigation? If Washington is right, an investigation would prove Washington’s case. But as Washington is again lying through its teeth, an investigation would prove the contrary. And that is what Washington fears and is the reason Washington blocked an investigation.

    Why do Western peoples believe the US government, a well proven liar, who blocks an investigation and asserts that everyone must believe Washington or else be put on a list of Russian agents?

    Here is the lie, the raw propaganda, that the US government has no qualms about issuing: https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/sm0056.aspx It comes from the US Department of the Treasury in which I once served honorably. But honor no longer exists in the US Treasury.

    Are Western populations intelligent enough to understand that the only reason for Washington to block an investigation of the alleged use by Syria of a chemical weapon is that the facts clearly do not support Washington’s lie? No, they are not.

    Theodore Postol, a scientist at MIT, has concluded from his investigation that the chemical weapon was not dropped from the air but was set off on the ground and that it was not Sarin gas as Sarin lingers and the alleged aid workers who were immediately on the scene were unprotected by gloves or masks or by anything. If the gas were Sarin, they would be dead also.

    The Russian explanation is that the Syrian air force attack hit a storage facility, conveniently arranged by Washington, that contained chemical weapons. I have seen reports that Washington, or Washington’s vassals such as Saudi Arabia, have provided ISIS with chemical weapons. President Putin of Russia says the reason Washington has delivered chemical weapons to ISIS is that there can be more orchestrated instances of their use that can be blamed on Assad.

    I think I can say in complete confidence that this is what is happening: Washington intends to wear Russia down with orchestrated chemical attack after chemical attack, portraying Russia as an inhuman defender of Assad’s alleged chemical attacks, in order to more thoroughly isolate Russia and in order to provoke opposition to Putin’s government, especially among the US and German financed NGOs that Russia stupidly permits to operate in Russia and in the Russian media. Washington’s goal is to force by the weight of world opinion Putin to abandon Assad to Washington.

    US Secretary of State Tillerson, another gigantic disappointment to those who hoped for peaceful relations between the US and Russia/China/Iran/Syria, has said that the US still intends regime change in Syria. Tillerson has advised Russia to get out of Washington’s way and to “consider carefully their support for Bashar al-Assad.”

    Russia cannot abandon Assad, because if Syria falls to Washington, Iran will be next, and then the Washington-financed jihadists will be set upon the Muslim populations of the Russian Federation and China.

    This is Washington’s game plan. I am certain Putin is aware of it, and I think the Chinese are, despite their inordinate focus on making money.

    The questions before us could not be any clearer: Will Russia and China break and give in to Washington? If not, will Washington become a good world citizen for the first time in America’s history, or will Washington issue more threats, thereby convincing Russia and China that their alternative is to wait for Washington’s preemptive nuclear strike or deliver one themselves?

    This is the only question that the world faces that is worth our attention. I spent a quarter century in Washington. The evil that is in control there at the present time is unprecedented. I have never seen anything like it.

    Can the world survive the evil that is concentrated in Washington, evil that has the support of the governments of the Western world?

    Citation
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/26/trump-now-captive-deep-state/
    https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/sm0056.aspx

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    Are we convinced yet they say what it takes to get elected then glide on the power wagon of NWO?

    Trust yourself, nobody else is worthy!

    This republic is dead…

    #471125
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    Ditto above. Me too.

    #471127
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    Awesome post Yumbo. I like these type of posts you and Big Boss do.

    Ditto above. Me too.

    Thank you.

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    OLD TREASURY:

    NEW TREASURY:

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    For the last week the AP, Reuters, the Hill, and others have been posting false statements and taking quotes out of context of the President’s positions on various matters in the hopes of destroying support for his base.

    One article was actually quoted Paul Ryan and the article made it out to sound like it was the President speaking.

    The good news is that even the liberal polls have President Trump supported by 96% of his base. That 4% is in the margin of error.

    The bad news is there are those being suckered by these false narratives.

    Here is an example of a false narrative against the President: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/trump-explans-why-he-flipped-nafta-if-no-fair-deal-we-will-terminate-nafta

    The President is being accused “flipping” to renegotiate NAFTA. The President has talked about renegotiating NAFTA since the campaign. The only reason he was getting ready to have the U.S. pull out of NAFTA was because the Canadian and Mexican governments had both refused to talk to him on the matter. Now, it is the Canadian and Mexican governments that have “flip” on the matter, not the President.

    This is a win for the President but the globalist press will make anything look like a loss for the President.

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    For the last week the AP, Reuters, and the Hill have been posting false statements and taking quotes out of context of the President’s positions on various matters in the hopes of destroying support for his base.

    One article was actually quoting Paul Ryan and the article made it out to sound like it was the president speaking.

    The good news is that even the liberal polls have President Trump supported by 96% of his base. That 4% is in the margin of error.

    The bad news is there are those being suckered by these false narratives.

    To me it does not matter any more if Trump is being held with a gun to his head. Let me be frank – Trump never had a strong backbone. He cant fight these people. The point here is that he has been given every opportunity to do something constructive on the economy, Mid East peace, Russia, China, Iran.

    He has done nothing yet that shows he is fighting back – sacrificing pawns does not count. North Korea may be his last chance to show if he has any authority left to stop another war the US cannot win. I never liked the guy but I have given him a long rope. It is up to him now to hang himself.

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    i get better information here than anywhere else,
    Yumbo , you do excellent work !
    thanks.
    it is appreciated!

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    To me it does not matter any more if Trump is being held with a gun to his head. Let me be frank – Trump never had a strong backbone.

    President Trump proved he has a very strong backbone and fortitude with his aggressive campaign schedule in the face of overwhelming opposition and he still won the election.

    Szu Tzu cautions never to directly face a more powerful enemy, instead come at them in an indirect manner.

    We are seeing this with President Trump.

    One sign that President Trump is not with the deep state is that he is not actively bombing Syria. Instead, the deep state had to get one of their closer proxies to bomb Syria.

    Also, President Trump has successfully pivoted to North Korea and he is forcing the issue on North Korea. The deep state wants North Korea left alone to fester and create problems in Asia.

    He has done nothing yet that shows he is fighting back

    He has been doing a lot that is not being reported by the press whom hates him. There is executive policies and orders had has going in the background.

    Also, he was able to get Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. That is a big victory for him.

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    Yumbo wrote:

    To me it does not matter any more if Trump is being held with a gun to his head. Let me be frank – Trump never had a strong backbone.

    President Trump proved he has a very strong backbone and fortitude with his aggressive campaign schedule in the face of overwhelming opposition and he still won the election.

    Szu Tzu cautions never to directly face a more powerful enemy, instead come at them in an indirect manner.

    I’m sorry and all respect to you- if he has a backbone I just can’t see it. I am not for or against him. I try to look at the facts.

    This is just not me saying it. The people who I have quoted all say the same thing – and I am not being one-sided here. It’s the things he did after he got into power that decide his abilities or alliances. Campaigns mean nothing at this stage. He needs to walk the talk if he is who he says he is.

    Syria is being handled in the same way as in Obama’s time – chemical weapons, supporting ISIS and now bringing in fighters from Iraq. Tell me what’s changed please – I am willing to be convinced. Nothing has. In fact – seems to have got worse.

    The Tomahawk attack was for real – all the Russian news channels confirm that a warning issued was a last minute handout via normal channels – Moscow did not know in advance – Putin was really p~~~ed, so was Lavrov.

    North Korea is again another MSM fiction for the last 50 years.
    The real story of what happened in the Korean War never gets told. Or what the US is trying to achieve in the Korean Peninsula.

    Kim ia a creep – but there are infinitely worse ones in Washington. And he hasn’t started any wars yet. Beating his chest is what crazy people do. Starting a war? They are nowhere near that.

    This is not about North Korea -never was. It’s about China or Japan controlling the Far East economy. And the US has not learnt from Vietnam.

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    Tell me what’s changed please

    I already answered that question. President Trump bombed a nearly empty airbase to take control of the narrative. Then, he pivoted to North Korea which needs to be dealt with.

    Syria is used as a distraction by the deep state. Focus on other matters.

    North Korea is not a distraction. The U.S. has defense treaties with South Korea and Japan. China has defense agreements with North Korea. If a North Korean missile hit the land of South Korea or Japan that would be an act of war.

    South Korea and Japan would drag the U.S. into a war and North Korea would drag the China into the war, creating a war between the U.S. and China.

    This is similar to how World War I started where treaties drag many of the nations of Europe into a war with each other.

    Honestly, I am tired of having to walk people through step by step how negotiations work. I am tired of people taking lies at face value because they are looking for a reason to be against someone they previously claim to support. I am tired whom are fair weather at best and bail at the first sign of trouble.

    This shortsighted attitude by so many is what is going to lead to a dictatorship in the U.S. I do not know if the dictatorship will be globalist ideology of seeking genocide on all white men like what Antifa desires (look up their platform, that is what Antifa has supported since the 1980’s in Sweden). Or, if the dictatorship will be nationalist seeking to purge all foreigners and foreign influence from the nation.

    The one thing I am sure about is the future will not belong to moderates fighting for the “status quo”.

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    I already answered that question. President Trump bombed a nearly empty airbase to take control of the narrative. Then, he pivoted to North Korea which needs to be dealt with.

    Syria is used as a distraction by the deep state. Focus on other matters.

    North Korea is not a distraction. The U.S. has defense treaties with South Korea and Japan. China has defense agreements with North Korea. If a North Korean missile hit the land of South Korea or Japan that would be an act of war.

    South Korea and Japan would drag the U.S. into a war and North Korea would drag the China into the war, creating a war between the U.S. and China.

    This is similar to how World War I started where treaties drag many of the nations of Europe into a war with each other.

    Sorry – I responded to that – Syria is continuing exactly as with Obama. Nothing has changed.

    Agree with you that North Korea will be the new war zone. Not for the made-up reason that is touted over the MSM. Again having a treaty and starting a war are two different things.

    Bringing the Japanese into the mix is a really bad idea. The US will be asking to reignite WWII. They have no idea how hated the Japanese are by every other East and South Asian nation.

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    Syria is continuing exactly as with Obama. Nothing has changed.

    Okay. One more time. President Trump refuses to do any more bombing in Syria. The deep state is having a closer proxy due to bombing. President Trump has pivoted to North Korea.

    There is the difference.

    Again having a treaty and starting a war are two different things.

    You really need to look up how World War I started. Most of nations dragged into the war was due to defense treaties. Actually, the two major nations that warred against each other in World War I, France and Germany, did not even start the war, the two nations were dragged into the war by their “allies” over the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

    The Archduke Ferdinand was killed by the anarchist Gavrilo Princip, whom was a like the lower level members of today’s Antifa.

    Many people do not understand the political and cultural powderkegs that many nations, including the U.S., have become. And there are fools playing with matches. All it would take is a spark and all hell would loose.

    Bringing the Japanese into the mix is a really bad idea.

    You have that reversed. It is the Japanese government whom are looking for an excuse to start a war with North Korea and they will drag the U.S. into the war.

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    Good job finding an article by Secretary Roberts. I love his stuff even if I don’t always agree with him. He like many other voices in the wind have been shut out of venues in order to silence him. I have seldom found his work on the counter-punch web site anymore, even though infowars is giving him some scope.

    On the issue of Trump/deep/state. I was a Cruz supporter from the start but like my fellow conservatives supported Trump over the obviously horrific alternative. But it is clear to me that Trump was or is merely a pawn of the deep state. elections are irrelevant if those with real power control both sides and present it as mere theater to the masses. Trump is no fool he knew there was no way he could “drain the swamp”. I figured this out the moment I noticed that not a single constitutional conservative was included in his cabinet, or circle of advisers. (Except perhaps for Bannon and Flynn—Trump was instructed to get rid of them and he has. He has also brought the two biggest globalist vipers of them all into his circle: Preibus and Ryan.

    The evidence is in guys—we’ve been had. In my view there will be no attack on NK rather this is merely a tool to keep hysteria whipped up—the real target is still Syria and the pipeline.

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    The evidence is in guys—we’ve been had. In my view there will be no attack on NK rather this is merely a tool to keep hysteria whipped up—the real target is still Syria and the pipeline.

    Pete, please read my posts on their thread. I point out how you are mistaken.

    I have had to repeat myself three times on this thread on this very subject.

    You have to critically think a few steps ahead to see the situation for what it is. The fact the deep state is having another nation besides the U.S. do the bombings in Syria proves the deep state is losing control of the situation.

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    In fairness I read your threads:

    A) You are assuming without fact that a somehow re-negotiated NAFTA is presumably a better deal than the old NAFTA, and not a breach of his campaign promise. Now Unless you have a time machine and have gone forward in time to see the result your statement is otherwise just mere supposition.

    B)Maybe you missed the press Release but your statement that Trump isn’t bombing Syria is false—he ordered the launch of 50+ missiles in response to a bogus chemical weapon attack I call that being played by the deep state. Did you miss that memo? Or are you playing semantics: missile and bomb are two different things.

    C) The pivot to NK is all smoke/mirrors/posturing.

    You my friend have been lead down the proverbial primrose path.

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    You have that reversed. It is the Japanese government whom are looking for an excuse to start a war with North Korea and they will drag the U.S. into the war.

    Ok let us agree to disagree then. I believe we have reverse positions on this. I maintain my position justified until proven otherwise by events in Syria and other areas. Thank you.

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    Good job finding an article by Secretary Roberts. I love his stuff even if I don’t always agree with him. He like many other voices in the wind have been shut out of venues in order to silence him. I have seldom found his work on the counter-punch web site anymore, even though infowars is giving him some scope.

    You can find his site in the citation. His youtube vids are excellent.

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    PS the absolute LAST thing Japan is looking for is war with anybody. They don’t have the ability or the will to fight Mothra at this point.

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    PS the absolute LAST thing Japan is looking for is war with anybody. They don’t have the ability or the will to fight Mothra at this point.

    Agreed – China is itching to make them pay for WWII and they have very long memories. The average Japs are s~~~ting in their pants that Abe is a warmonger and possibly will send them straight to a Japanese hell. Especially those in Okinawa.

    If there is anyone who hates the Japs more than China it’s Korea.
    These things just don’t go away for Asians.

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