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She’s running a long con. She’s almost 50 and you’re her last best chance.
If she’s running the long con, she’s in for a rude awakening in the future.
I’m a cold-blooded mother#@$&*$. Was watching the bunny in my yard recently that had eaten some of my strawberries. Watched him wiggle his nose, noted how cute he was, then put a crossbow bolt into him 3 seconds later.
ZFG.
Women past the Wall are like expired lottery tickets.
I’m figuring the relationship won’t last more than 2-4 years.
If she is playing a long con, it’s because she thinks she can and will pull it off. Don’t be overconfident. Play with fire long enough and you get burned. No matter how much you respect it, no matter what precautions you take, one way or another you will get burned somewhere along the line.
My main concerns would be if she suddenly goes feral or if she tries the “one phone call” route to bring the power of the state down on me.
The Asian gf I broke up with months ago was so convinced that I was in love with her that she almost looked like she was going to go catatonic on me from shock when I dumped her.
As soon as I get the faintest whiff of crazy, I dump. Not just that, but I drop f~~~ing red pills on them like a B-52 bomber carpet-bombing Dresden. The Asian gf saw me as unattractive prospect after I unloaded MGTOW on her. (That, and seeing another woman out in my garden weeding while I was playing video games)
The scary thing is some of those games and long cons (even short cons) would have worked on me 2 years ago. I trained myself not to feel anymore, which gives me an advantage of guys who still think with their peckers or think that women actually love them.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
To me, it’s risk versus reward. Whatever you’re getting out of this isn’t enough reward for me to take the risk. If you think it is for you, continue to tread lightly.
Jackie: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.
Anonymous18You are arguing with biology using recent truths of red pill philosophy.
You will lose. She will win.
Whatever you have doesn’t sound like it’s casual f~~~ing, no drama.
Its a relationship and she has every right to be a woman. That is trap you.
End this. And find someone whom you don’t allow to get this close.
You are playing with fire. She will break you down.
Her name is a woman.
You are playing with fire. She will break you down.
Her name is a woman.
If she does, it should be fascinating to see how she tries to break someone down that has little to no emotions.
Also, I have a vasectomy, will not allow for cohabitation or even key-sharing, and no marriage.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
To me, it’s risk versus reward. Whatever you’re getting out of this isn’t enough reward for me to take the risk.
Very well put. For you and I, the scales don’t balance and, for Ranger One, they currently do.
The operative word being currently naturally.
He’s aware that she’s running a long con and he’s ruthlessly enforced boundaries in the past, so he may be safe. It’s certain she will try to change the rules of engagement because that’s what women do.
The wild card in all of this is the looming threat of the One Phone Call. Like the Sword of Damocles, it hangs suspended over any man in a relationship with the thread growing weaker every day.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous6What I am wondering, is the degree of likelihood that she will attempt to change the arrangement. I
What I’m am wondering is if she thinks if she is with me long enough, does she likely think she can get me to marry her?
My question would be as to the likelihood that she thinks I will change my mind about marriage or cohabitation? Does she actually mistakenly think she can change me or frog-boil me into changing my mind?You already know the answers to your questions, that’s why you’re asking. Think about this way. A fifty year old woman being okay with just dating for however long doesn’t exist. Won’t exist. She’ll go along for awhile and then slowly wedge into your life. Like leaving s~~~ at your place, changing times, showing up unannounced, looking through your s~~~ without your permission, etc. Remember me writing this for you here, because it will come true if you don’t proactively keep things in line.
If she does, it should be fascinating to see how she tries to break someone down that has little to no emotions.
Also, I have a vasectomy, will not allow for cohabitation or even key-sharing, and no marriage.
Having no emotions doesn’t shield you from the law. You’ve already made your mind up so please at least protect yourself from all possible angles.
Jackie: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.To me, it’s risk versus reward. Whatever you’re getting out of this isn’t enough reward for me to take the risk.
Very well put. For you and I, the scales don’t balance and, for Ranger One, they currently do.
The operative word being currently naturally.
He’s aware that she’s running a long con and he’s ruthlessly enforced boundaries in the past, so he may be safe. It’s certain she will try to change the rules of engagement because that’s what women do.
The wild card in all of this is the looming threat of the One Phone Call. Like the Sword of Damocles, it hangs suspended over any man in a relationship with the thread growing weaker every day.
Currently. My basic foundational assumption is that ALL relationships (especially “romantic” ones) are temporal and finite.
So, the question remains, at what point my calculus changes. It may involve what society would perceive as “douchebaggery” at some point in the future, but I am well past worrying too much about what society thinks.
She has never been super-healthy since she was a kid, so it is quite possible her health will be s~~~ when she is actually old. Obviously, I won’t want to be with her in the retirement years.
She has 2 sons to take care of her when she is old, and I want to leave my boys something. I’m sure older women have their own techniques for wealth extraction, even when they can’t extract via the usual route of marriage, divorce, child support and vagimony.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
If she does, it should be fascinating to see how she tries to break someone down that has little to no emotions.
Also, I have a vasectomy, will not allow for cohabitation or even key-sharing, and no marriage.
Having no emotions doesn’t shield you from the law. You’ve already made your mind up so please at least protect yourself from all possible angles.
It does occur to me that this might actually be a good drill to push my prepping further along. CCTV would be very useful for security in prepping as well as for dealing with any woman who tries sicking the law on me.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I’ll caveat this by saying I don’t believe in NAWALT. In fact my answer to NAWALT is EWALT: Enough Women Are Like That.
My gf of 7 months so far and I seem to split everything 50/50 (mini-vacations, movies, eating out), or so close to it that any difference is irrelevant. She already (and apparently believes me) knows that I’m explicitly opposed to a 3rd marriage to ANYONE for ANY reason.
The reason for both of our current divorces (we are both in the end stages of it) are the same: the ex cheated and left for the person they were cheating with.
She is obviously post-wall. She’s my age (almost 50). She works full-time at a decent job. She is of average (at best) looks, but she is at least not a land whale. In fact, she is so thin, she doesn’t actually have breasts. She does not possess a genius IQ but she does possess actual scientific curiosity. She doesn’t seem to feel the need to fake interest in the things that I’m interested in. To compare her to my ex for example, who was a “Walking Dead” fan, gave up on the show simply because Glenn was killed by Negan. My gf is still watching. Its a small thing, but its one example.
What I am wondering, is the degree of likelihood that she will attempt to change the arrangement. I don’t think she is a NAWALT, because ALL women have the potential to turn on you. I look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn after 36 years together in non-marriage and I still see the possibility of Goldie Hawn getting the vagina tingles and leaving him. I don’t suffer from the bias that I will somehow be lucky and find a special snowflake.
What I’m am wondering is if she thinks if she is with me long enough, does she likely think she can get me to marry her? She knows that I’m a cynical, skeptical and pessimistic person in general, but I don’t think she understands just how much yet.
For example, she thinks I’m “in love” with her the way she says she is with me, whatever that means. I know that is an illusion and I don’t feel anything. I’ve just chosen to be with her, because she has not chosen to inconvenience me. I dumped the other girlfriend so fast that she probably saw a Doppler redshift. In fact, I’d say that I don’t really feel very many emotions at all for over a year.
She also knows that I am opposed to cohabitation and has the idea of selling her house where she lives now (35 miles away) to try and find a smaller house within a mile or so of mine, after her last son is out of college.
My question would be as to the likelihood that she thinks I will change my mind about marriage or cohabitation? Does she actually mistakenly think she can change me or frog-boil me into changing my mind?
I’ve been straightforward about all of that non-marriage, non-cohabitation. The only thing I’ve lied about is when I respond back to her saying “I love you” by saying it in return. I actually feel nothing. To me, love is not a feeling, it is a choice. As long as she doesn’t try to f~~~ me over, I’ll choose to stay.
EWALT and NAWALT are the same thing, and it arrives at the same conclusion. So either NAWALT, or AWALT. Either they’re all the same, or they’re not. trying to muddle up the terminology is just a smoke screen. EWALT is basically saying the same thing. “Enough” is the same as saying “Not All”.
To answer your questions, yes. In the short term, they will tell you what you want to hear. They will say “No marriage, absolutely. No living together, absolutely.” Until they feel like the relationship isn’t going any further. Women are not complacent by nature. They can’t deal with a “stagnant relationship”. They always expect things to keep moving forward and will often try to change a man if that makes it happen. The only other card they can play is guilt. When that doesn’t work, they leave. Date her long enough, and living apart will be an inconvenience for her.
She’s running a long con. She’s almost 50 and you’re her last best chance.
If she’s running the long con, she’s in for a rude awakening in the future.
I’m a cold-blooded mother#@$&*$. Was watching the bunny in my yard recently that had eaten some of my strawberries. Watched him wiggle his nose, noted how cute he was, then put a crossbow bolt into him 3 seconds later.
ZFG.
Women past the Wall are like expired lottery tickets.
I’m figuring the relationship won’t last more than 2-4 years.
Why would you even consider a menopausal woman into the wall phase when you can trade down for a younger chick? The 50 something chick has been pumped and dumped too many times, and her milk is sour.
She’s running a long con. She’s almost 50 and you’re her last best chance.
If she’s running the long con, she’s in for a rude awakening in the future.
I’m a cold-blooded mother#@$&*$. Was watching the bunny in my yard recently that had eaten some of my strawberries. Watched him wiggle his nose, noted how cute he was, then put a crossbow bolt into him 3 seconds later.
ZFG.
Women past the Wall are like expired lottery tickets.
I’m figuring the relationship won’t last more than 2-4 years.
Why would you even consider a menopausal woman into the wall phase when you can trade down for a younger chick? The 50 something chick has been pumped and dumped too many times, and her milk is sour.
Because she was married for about 20 years before getting dumped, so her c~~~ odometer will be not much worse (maybe even less) than the young things out there now.
My ex was 11 years younger than me and she cheated with 4 different guys (the ones that I knew about) before she left. Young women are too f~~~ing crazy. Too much of a hassle. I want someone that will pay 50/50, like my current gf.
I have far fewer resources than I should at this point in my life. I need to conserve my resources post-ex, as I have been doing.
I don’t worship pussy enough to chase after young things. I’d rather spend time in my garden tending my medlars and currants and fig trees. F~~~ being a sugar daddy.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Why would you even consider a menopausal woman into the wall phase when you can trade down for a younger chick?
When you reach a certain age, younger women are no longer an option.
I was routinely “pumping & dumping” university co-eds into my 40s. After a certain point, however, the only women in their early 20s who are interested in a man in his mid-50s are those with even more screws loose than the usual woman.
When your age reaches the point where “potential younger women” means women in their thirties, you’re pretty much f~~~ed. The twenty-somethings are okay with casual sex, flings, hook-ups, and all the rest. The thirty-somethings, by contrast, are mindlessly predatory.
Women in their 30s have been hit by two separate body blows which makes them even more crazy than woman usually are. First, the c~~~ carousel is creaking to a halt while the Wall has either hit them or is getting damn close. Second, baby rabies has sunk it’s claws into them.
You can’t date, let alone “pump & dump”, a thirty-something without running an insane level of risk. That means you are wise to ignore women who are between about 30 and their late 40s. They’re either looking for sperm and the support which comes with it or they’re dealing with the results of getting that sperm and their subsequent divorce the beta schmuck who provided it.
For the most part, women past their late 40s have seen their womb turds off to college and the effects of their divorce(s) wane. They’re still insane, like all women are, they’re just not as insane as they were in their 30s and 40s.
There’s a “radioactive valley” of sorts at work here. You possibly mitigate the potential risks of dating women before they’re 30 and after they’re 45 or so, but you’re juggling plutonium if you date women between those ages.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous13If she’s playing the long con, quite likely, and realizes down the line it’s not working or won’t work.
THEN,
She’ll be p~~~ed at the amount of investment in you for no return.
THAT is when you’ll get to see the crazy.
ANYTHING goes then, up to and including 911.
‘He scares me, I don’t feel safe’
If she’s playing the long con, quite likely, and realizes down the line it’s not working or won’t work.
She’ll be p~~~ed at the amount of investment in you for no return.THAT is when you’ll see crazy.
Anything goes then, up to and including 911.
‘He scares me, I don’t feel safe’
That’s why I’m keeping in mind its probably only a 2-4 yr relationship at best, and then cut and run most likely.
Also, more reason for my interest in CCTV, which is dual purpose, since it will serve general prepping/security issues as well.
Women are really f~~~ing funny after just investing 3 months in a relationship. The Asian gf who a month after the breakup was subtly trying to get me back, came by as a “friend” to drop off an Asian pepper plant for my garden, and was shocked to see the current gf weeding in my garden. I got some butthurt text messages from the Asian gf about how I must not have ever loved her to be able to find a replacement so quickly. (my severed b~~~~ would probably be fertilizing my garden if she had found out that I was dating both of them at the same time for 3 months)
She was only 4 years younger than the present gf (yes I know most Asian women do look a lot younger than their age) and texted me to insult how shocked she was to find an old, ugly new woman at my house. It is amazing how much even 40yr+ women overestimate their SMV.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Anonymous13As you say, women can be funny after just investing 3 months in a relationship, never mind 2 – 4 years wasted of her already dwindling, retirement seeking, years.
Since this relationship has nowhere to go, and she believes that it might do some day, then exercise
EXTREME CAUTION.
Good luck, but the risks are just too great for me based on the return.
WOW Ranger you are a glutton for punishment—two marriages and you’re still orbiting some washed up female? What do you do for fun? Whip yourself?
Fact: you know how toxic women are and you know what they want—the question is what are you getting out of this—it doesn’t seem like much so why take the risks? Is it that you just need a companion to keep you company? Get a dog—any dog bets any woman anytime.
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WOW Ranger you are a glutton for punishment—two marriages and you’re still orbiting some washed up female? What do you do for fun? Whip yourself?
Fact: you know how toxic women are and you know what they want—the question is what are you getting out of this—it doesn’t seem like much so why take the risks? Is it that you just need a companion to keep you company? Get a dog—any dog bets any woman anytime.
If I was a glutton for punishment, I would have tried to engineer a 3some in April, back when I had two girlfriends, before I dumped the Asian one.
And I’m not into whipping myself for fun — that was the first ex… she was a member of the Black Rose Society. She had some s~~~ in her “toy trunk” that I still don’t known what the f~~~ they were for.
As it is, the benefits currently outweigh the costs. Obviously, at some point, the costs will outweigh the benefits, and I’ll go Monk/Hermit-mode then (I’ll make sure I have CCTV proof in the event jilted gf goes 9-11 mode).
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
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