On female marital deception

[EinherjarParticipant 608]

It is a known fact that women are impossible to trust, mainly because they do not trust themselves. It is because they are driven by their emotions, not by logic and reason. Emotions are a form of chaos, since they follow no straight line and in no readable pattern, like leaves in the wind. And if women are beings of emotions, they are the source of chaos. Men are driven by logic and reason, making us the source of order within the two genders. This is the short version of how I understand the dynamics between men and women.

Often when I find myself speaking about these things, there is opposition….mainly from the female listeners. I’ve been called a lot of things, all of it meant to hurt and to make me feel small and insignificant. Luckily, being a MGHOW means you know shaming-language for what it is:) And it is the topic on female marital deception that puts them in defence-mode the most. It is usually futile trying to make an argument with such listeners, as one cannot convince a person of the opposite when they have already made up their mind. All the research in the world that has been made on the issues of adultery, female promiscuity, female psychology ,gold digging etc has no relevance for these kind of listeners, even if you can prove your sources quite quickly on your phone.

I know that it is not advisable to argue such things with women in the first place, but IF that were to happen sometime in the future, I recently found a good example whilst searching around on youtube. This clip is about a woman calling in to the Tom Leykis show, and openly admitting to her severe deception….and also revealing that this is quite common amongst women of today!

If you have 14 min to spare, I would recommend listening to it….it is eyeopening to say the least;)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uTsiiHod4I

What do you think? Even after all that I have learned since I first swallowed the red-pill, this is still kind of shocking listening to!

The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

That is a damn amazing finding, well done.

My jaw just dopped listening to that woman in the sense of: “Boy, only when you thought women can’t be or do any worse than what my perceptions have already been, don’t hold your breath just yet, ohhh s~~~…”

This is the most off-putting steroid-like red pill I’ve ever swallowed and I just did. Thanks..!

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 0]

Current stats say that 2 to 3 % of children are being raised by a man that is not the biological father. After hearing this, I think it is more like 20 to 30%. There is no end to what a woman can rationalize about her own hypergamous nature. With what I know today, I think mandatory paternity testing would be a good thing for men.

[Anonymous 42]

Here, read neutrino’s introduction, it says allot! Another block in my MGTOW WALL®

That ‘was’ me.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

That is the biggest thing for me. I could accept the female bat s~~~ crazy, I cannot accept that I cannot trust a female.

Paternal test should be required for child support.

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Paternal test should be required for child support.

Simple ongoing consent should be the only requirement. So long as women, including married women, have the sole right to choose to terminate a pregnancy, regardless of the wishes of the supposed father, then men should have the right to choose not to pay for that pregnancy.

Feminists want it to be a woman’s sole right to choose and a man’s sole responsibility to pay. So much for their claims of “equality”. So long as it’s her sole decision it should be her sole responsibility;

If women have the sole right to choose an abortion, then men should have the sole right to choose a financial abortion.

[narwhalParticipant]

I’m all good with a paternity test for child support, however, I do some issues with it. I don’t like the idea of required medical tests like this. Giving a man the option sounds like a good idea. However, I don’t like it being the man’s option all that well either. In the case where the man is the father, a mother and her lawyer will twist that around to say that he didn’t want to take responsibility, and therefore, he doesn’t deserve custody rights or something like that. I’d like to see it where it is not compulsory, but so common it’s a mere formality.

@sidecar, I see where you’re going with this, but there is a 3rd party involved, the child (or potential child). If a man opts out of providing financial support, it’s the child that loses out the most, and they had no choice in the matter. Perhaps the best thing would be that both father and mother must consent to birth, otherwise abortion is the default choice. However, you cannot force abortion on a woman. On the other hand, guys like me (or who I was) would consent to birth in a marriage situation, but not a divorced, living separately, situation. That doesn’t work as you currently cannot force a commitment (as strange as that sounds).

I lean towards having as many of these details worked out ahead of time, before the sex even happens. A man should be able to have his own reliable birth control (not a condom). He should be able to declare under what conditions he will financially support a child. That information should be readily available before sex, say on a laminated card in his wallet, or a Bluetooth exchange on your phones. That should be held up as the woman’s responsibility to be aware of the man’s stated obligations, and if they are not satisfactory, then no sex.

The reverse would also be true for women. She can prepare her statement on birth as well. Will she have an abortion, will she expect financial support, etc. If she states she’s on the pill, then she is legally responsible to be so. If those conditions aren’t acceptable for the man, then he can move on.

And this would change SMV of men and women too. A man who will take financial responsibility would be more desirable. As well, a woman who doesn’t require the man to be financially responsible would be more desirable.

Heck, I’d even have any STDs or other conditions effecting sex and the date of your last test or physical exam as part of the data available presented to your partner (I actually used to keep a copy of my last test in my wallet). Of course, this won’t stop all issues and people are still going to have sex when their pre-stated thoughts on birth are not compatible, but I think it would go a long way to moving away from trust and assumptions alone, which has proven to be extremely unreliable these days. At the very least, it should get people thinking more about the consequences of sex.

Ok. Then do it.

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