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Anonymous6I’ve observed that many men in this community are older (upper 20s, 30, and quite a few older than 40). Us younger men just hitting their 20s are in hell. Emotions everywhere an irrational dreams and behaviors. Pandering to women to get acceptance for what?… To spend money better saved and to feel like s~~~ in the end? Old MGTOWs that have been through youth, marriage, divorce, recovery, had careers, and watched the internet change society def have perspective, that’s 100%.
I like to talk to people who have been through the book to tell me how it ends and what to expect, and MGTOW has opened all the pages and translated everything just right. For the thousandth time, thank you all old and young for keeping all generations aware and strong.
Thoughts??
Just don’t give a f~~~.
I’ve been through 2 divorces and lost my ass in both of them.
Never again.
After paying alimony to 2 c~~~s and child support for 3 children from 1990-2015 I’m finally back in business.
Life is good and the money flows freely. And I intend to keep it that way.
To our young guys; Don’t ever marry!
Women are dream killers and they suck the life out of you (and not in a sexual way)
Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

Anonymous6Just don’t give a f~~~.
Wait, you don’t give a f~~~ about the older MGTOW being mentors to the younger ones!?!
In a MGTOW sense yes learn from the mistakes of older men. And their counsel can be sought on many aspects of masculinity today. But also be wary of equating age with wisdom in every instance.
Just as women get more ridiculous as they age (pre/during/post menopause), many ordinary (blue pill) men can learn nothing either.
Foolishness is suffered in the young, but there’s no fool like an old fool.
From your calculations regarding ‘old’, I fit the definition.
Although my prior adventures with pumpkins have been tragic & at times pathetic: I try to add some humor to it all (at my own expense) to show the younger guys that even if you ever go down that road, it’s not the end of the world.
There is hope within the struggle. And nothing in life is so serious that you can’t laugh at it.
Even the evil of narcissistic sluts.
From all of the stories I have read on here.
None of us that survived it all were ever broken.
We persevered and kept pushing forward.
It is not only a testament to the strength of man but a clear sign that even the most evil of women are still too weak to break that which cannot be broken.
Man’s spirit and power of will.
Just don’t give a f~~~.
Wait, you don’t give a f~~~ about the older MGTOW being mentors to the younger ones!?!
‘NFG’ is the new thing here. It’s been trending like a mtha’ fcka for the last few weeks on a whole new level.
The NFG Gang:
They don’t give a f~~~. But have to let us know.
‘Who’s down with NFG!
Yeah, you know me!’
Anonymous14Us younger men just hitting their 20s are in hell. Emotions everywhere an irrational dreams and behaviors.
All very well said Venom. I think you are also wise enough even though you are young to see that this applies to you as well. I see it come out when you talk about politics, too much faith in a man or a party on display at times. It may take a few more decades before you see that not much really changes, and in fact the train keeps going down the same tracks that were laid long ago no matter who is in office…
With that said, yes, age does two things to a man. One, he gains wisdom due to the simple fact that he has seen more and been around longer. And two, your body starts falling apart and your testosterone begins to decline, two factors, one that forces you to use your head more and the other that allows you to use your head more. The older I get the more weight I give to what older men have to say. Most of my friends are much younger though so I have insight into how the generation behind me views the world as well.
agreed Venom!!
alot could be learned from the EXPERIENCE of the older MGTOW. The Older has been through all this s~~~ already and can shed light for the younger..
But, it is up to the Younger to take heed on what we Older say and take that as proof…
And, if Old Bill chews you younger lads up every now and then on a thread, it comes from great wisdom. like scolding a puppy when he s~~~s in the house…
Another thing that older men bring is the evidence that women have always been like this, and always will be like this.
And it goes back to the ancient greek philosophers.
Women are AWALT in a truly timeless fashion.
Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

Anonymous12One of the tactics the Left use is trying tell people things are better now.
Older people in general are invaluable as they will tell you how much better things were in the past.
Even at 44 when I look back at my childhood and teen years I can tell you things were much better than.

Anonymous11I’m an old geezer. I’m learning new things myself from all members younger and older.
The Internet entered the modern era in the mid-1990s. Had MGTOW been available then, I would have been spared a lot of misery. Nooooo, all we had back then was blue pill PUA bulls~~~.
Thanks Venom, we appreciate your work here very much.
Hormones. You have to channel them into other things that positively tire you out. Working out. Studying hard, about anything you like or are interested in. Give yourself a purpose. Try to make plans to improve every day, write down the accomplishments every day. When you really need a release, take care of it yourself, and then go back about your day. Because freedom is more important than endless drama and s~~~ tests and being stuck in a system totally designed to be against you/rape you.
Kids? The planet is overflowing with kids. We are in no danger of becoming extinct. And if the numbers go down, so what? So we stay at 7 billion instead of 9 and a half? OMFG we’re all dead (not).
The hive and gynosociety want you on the plantation as some females’ resource/atm/husbank. Because married men are controlled men. Wife controls them can beat them, then claim victim status, guy is gone. State controls men through women and kids. You are just a RESOURCE for her. Resources don’t get custody and no one cares she can’t pay her half for the kids. Just you.
Don’t get trapped.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Soon to turn 50. I saw the traditional family unit completely unwind in the late 1970’s. For 150,000 years of human existence a woman was the sacred raiser of children, and tender of home base. No matter what they say, that is exactly what they evolved to be. They no longer want that, so they demand to go against human nature. Therefore a logical mind can only conclude that then their true value to a man, in our aberrant modern context, is as a sex partner. Now they try to push the “we’re soulmates and best friends angle”, in place of “mother and wife”, to lure you back to the middle-class debt cycle plantation. Young men should realize any notion of the historic nuclear family unit no longer exists, what you see in TV and movies is merely a wistful repackaging of a world that has not existed in almost 50 years. Don’t say you weren’t warned…
Sovereignty above all else.

Anonymous6Remember if you think marriage is expensive try divorce.
40% of all first marriages end in divorce. Divorce rates are over 50% nationwide because some guys never learn after the first divorce and keep going back thinking that the next wife will be better than the last wife.
Don’t play the mind games with a woman. If she starts with the girl games take a walk and don’t look back. Remember over 60% of all domestics are started by a woman’s mouth, don’t fall for it.
I, too, wish I had this resource when I was younger.
Lots of wisdom and insight from those who have been thru the ringer.
I probably wouldnt have listened LOL as I had to make the mistakes myself before the lessens learned.
Keep up the good work men, and be available for those in need.
Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!
I like to talk to people who have been through the book to tell me how it ends and what to expect, and MGTOW has opened all the pages and translated everything just right.
We’re all part of the same story but we don’t all get the same script. The characters of a story don’t get to see what’s happening with other characters, only those looking in from the outside. You don’t really want to know how the story ends. Without uncertainty, there’s no real incentive. Just like a movie you’ve watched a hundred times or a book you’ve reread until the binding is coming apart. Sure, you can still get some enjoyment but it’ll never be like the first time.
Going your own way is about you taking full responsibility for yourself and your life no matter what that means, no matter the cost. For some, that means a full indulgence of self. For others, it means not giving f~~~ about anyone or anything. Those are two paths that we see being heralded the loudest but there are many others. Some of us just want to live our lives with as little exposure to assholes as possible.
Find your passion. Discover what drives you. Take hold of what makes you whole and don’t let anyone tell you you’re doing it wrong. The rest of the stuff is just filler. Focus on what cannot be replaced and then laugh about the rest here. The story ends with you going out like a boss because you did what was real and true or with you crying out in despair because you chased your tail.
Jackie: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.If younger guys can learn from the stupidity of my earlier years and avoid the same traps, I’m glad to help (late forties now).
"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

Anonymous42I’ve been trashing one gynocentric thing after another for DECADES! TV, Radio, mass media and being legally dominated and monopolized to serve cupcake’s purpose!
Each system they dominate I dismantle immediately! NFL Marvel Comics, sports illustrated, CNN, ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, BBC and so many others over the cliff of decimation and in the lake of fire as far as I’m concerned! I’m becoming very aware and keen to my nature and how to nurture myself in all things anti-gynocentric.
I treat them and their foul stinking bulls~~~ like high level radioactive contamination!
I simply don’t expose myself to them and their likes, opinions, and desires.
I live a separate life entirely! MINIMIZE EXPOSURE IS KEY!
Ignore it all and turn away!
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