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  • #539287
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    Anonymous
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    I’ve heard a few people say this whenever I make a comment against marriage or serious relationships, and it got me thinking.

    Has anyone on here who internalized MGTOW have this happen to them? Know right and well how much better it is to be MGTOW and then find themselves in a serious relationship or married because “you didn’t have a choice and fell head over heels”?

    I just can’t imagine it.

    #539299
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    Atton
    Atton
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    Not personally but I think it is similar to a drug addiction.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #539325
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    Untamed
    Untamed
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    I don’t know about you other MGTOWs but when I decided to go my own way I had already decided that Love was not in a woeman’s ability.
    Part of the red-pill rage is to come to terms with the idea that Love is simply a tool for weemins to trap men into marriage. Every single guy who ever got married was taken for a damn fool. Which says that Love is alive in men but a stranger to weemins.
    Weemins are incapable of loving someone, anyone. All they want is to be taken care of, money, fame and to get other weemins jealous. That’s it and that’s all.
    When a weemin says she loves you, she means she loves the way you volunteer to pay for all her s~~~. She loves the way you’re willing to be treated like a simp without complaining. She loves the way she can beat you while you’re only saying I’m sorry and you’ll be back for more the next day.
    They love to talk about True Love, as if they actually had any f~~~ing clue what Love is. How can a creature with THAT much HATE in its heart have any idea what Love actually is?

    Men were born with Love in their hearts, I can see it daily around me. That’s how weemin get to fool guys who are otherwise very intelligent. We all know it. A man in love is a lost cause for MGTOW because his better judgment is overwritten by the love in his heart. Men make better parents for that same reason.

    We’ve been fooled most our lives into thinking that weemins are those angels come down from heaven. They are monsters come up from hell and we now have a TON of evidence.
    As guys, we have no problem being single and alone because we have Love in our hearts, we don’t need to seek it from someone else.
    A woeman wants a guy’s Love because she herself has NONE.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #539331
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    Beer
    Beer
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    Doesn’t make any sense to me. If I fell head over heels for someone I’d think I just want to spend time with them and have lots of sex with them…not offer up a contract giving them the power to financially ruin me if things were to change in the future.

    #539335
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    Autolite
    Autolite
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    I just can’t imagine it.

    Neither can I. Nor could I imagine keeping a wild Grizzly bear as a pet…

    #539341
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    Monk
    Monk
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    16978

    Once something is understood, it stays with you forever.

    You burn yourself once as a child (or not at all, if you listen to what more sensible people tell you), and that leads to:

    ‘I know that fire is hot and that it will burn me, because this is it’s nature’.

    An analogy that can also be applied elsewhere …

    #539359
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    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    Bulls~~~. Love is a verb, not a noun. You fall into a swimming pool. That’s a thing, a noun. Love is a CHOICE you make. It’s an action that requires effort on your part. There is no such thing as “falling in love”. The whole concept of falling in love, like you didn’t have a say in the matter, is complete bulls~~~.

    It’s just another way for women to avoid accountability.

    Oh, I couldn’t help it. As soon as I saw him I just fell in love. It was love at first site.

    No, that’s ‘gina tingles.

    Order the good wine

    #539378
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    Yojimbo Rockford
    Yojimbo Rockford
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    I am not capable of being “in love” in The same manner that I would have previously.

    I am capable of loving someone. I am just no longer capable of making them the center of my universe, putting up with their s~~~, or giving them the power to destroy me, simply because I love them.

    I can love a woman. I can accept whatever benefits that might bring, and reject any liabilities. Where I used to trip up was fear. Fear of loss of love. It is by losing this fear, that a man can be the master of the love he gives.
    I will not make a woman the center of my universe. I will not put up with a woman’s bulls~~~ demands and narcissism. Unfortunately, in an era of unbridled, hypergamous, narcissistic gluttony, that just means there’s an ocean of Strong Independents that will not put up with that kind of Disrespect.

    Now, that’s ok with me. Because occasionally, I get to enjoy a NAWALT show for a little while, and when the AWALT shows up, I can see the bullets and deflect accordingly.

    Loss of love and the shaming language that goes with it don’t affect me like it used to. The Old Man Dying Alone Myth doesn’t scare me.

    When it comes to women, there are five fundamental things I have learned from the red pill.

    1) I can love, and that love is more valuable than any vagina and isn’t solely predicated on her ability to make me cum.

    2) Women cannot love me in the same way.

    3) No one can destroy a man, like the woman he loves.

    4) We live in a world that encourages a man to love a woman, and encourages her to destroy him.

    5) There are precious few women with enough character to love.

    The red pill has taught me not to be that guy. It has taught me to know the value of my love and commitment. It has also shown me how little women in general are worth it. However, it has taught me that I can love without being destroyed by it.

    She is not your woman. It is only your turn.

    For me, a woman doesn’t have to compete with other women. She has to compete with my solitude, because I have yet to meet a woman that has been able to be the long term asset to my life that my solitude has.

    And “Love” will never trump that. As I make my path through this life, a woman is welcome to come with me on this path for as long as she can handle it. I have yet to meet one that can. And the funny thing is, for all the Strength and Independent Virtues of the Modern Women, they possess very little character that makes them an asset to a man’s journey through life. So I journey alone. And I am fine with that. No. I love it actually. Haha

    #539386
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    Joey Cusack
    Joey Cusack
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    Has anyone on here who internalized MGTOW have this happen to them? Know right and well how much better it is to be MGTOW and then find themselves in a serious relationship or married because “you didn’t have a choice and fell head over heels”?

    Anyone in that boat has not truly internalized MGTOW.

    #539398
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    Carnage
    Carnage
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    22113

    I have been said the same thing.

    But I don’t see it posible, I mean i see it every day. Women with their BF by her side, eating me with their eyes on the beach.

    Today a couple of colleagues came to my house there was a rock festival in the next town (red hot chilli peppers and others).

    One of them was kissing with another colleague, she has a BF and lives in the same building.

    The other one got an offer for a threesome. Both girls have boyfriends, and they know the boyfriends.

    Im always in high alert but now I’m pretty sure I can’t trust this guys. One is blue pill as hell (his girlfriend went alone to Ibiza 10 days, and he believes she didn’t cheated).

    The other one is redpill as f~~~ but still, I won’t trust a guy who sleeps with other guys women, specially if he knows the guy.

    NO i don’t see my selft capable of falling for such a disgusting creature ever again.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #539409
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    Stealth
    Stealth
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    5330

    Free men ALWAYS have a choice.

    Anyone who posits you as the slave of some irrational, external force and insists you yield to it is trying to manipulate. Probably for no real reason other than to project a whole host of s~~~ problems onto you from their own psyche and life choices–not least of which is their desire to justify to themself how they ended up with certain undesirable qualities their life, since they themself are ultimately a slave to irrationality. Insisting others fall in line is a move to suppress their envy and self-hatred at your expense.

    Being swayed by teenage emotions was fun as a child, but anyone who actually believes the claim in this post’s title has not learned to control their emotions through the greater powers of choice and action. Anyone who talks to you like this does not have your best interests as a priority.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #539411
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    MOWsince95
    MOWsince95
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    1446

    Easy answer: Once you are MGTOW and you realize the true nature of women and how badly the system is rigged to fúck over men, you simply won’t fall in love.

    If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
    If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.

    #539563
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    Mark
    mark
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    451

    Has anyone on here who internalized MGTOW have this happen to them?

    I had. Several times:

    1) I was 17 and so was she. I had a huge crush on this blue-eyed brunette. Naturally she knew and of course, she was playing me around and slowly…”let’s be friends”. Naturally, me being white knight one day she fell in love with a bad boy. Naturally, the bad boy had other girls. Naturally, after they broke-up she wanted a rebound boy. Even at age 40 I will never forget that night. Pouring rain and we had no umbrellas. Both of us alone in a park and she looking like the most beautiful creature on earth. On top of that, she came onto me, trying to kiss me. I push her back and walked away. I am no sloppy seconds of nobody.

    2) Met this incredible Asian girl, so pretty and yet so fun to be with. Dated for a year or so. One time she told me she was with me because of a past failed relationship, implying that otherwise she would have married that other guy. I was going to propose to her. Broke up with her right there and then. Again, I am nobody’s sloppy seconds.

    3) Super nice girl I was dating for a couple of years. Everything was perfect until one day she decides to test my “never ever shout at me” rule. She found out that I say what I mean and I do what I say. I gave her 1h to collect her s~~~ from my place. Never called her again nor I picked up her calls.

    …and many more I do not recall right now.

    But you know what, it does not even matter, because the people who talk about that BS told me that “probably I didn’t really love them, but when I really love someone blah blah blah”.

    There is love, and then there is integrity.

    #539567
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    Mark
    mark
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    451

    Anyone in that boat has not truly internalized MGTOW.

    I respectfully disagree.

    I know what love is. I have loved women. And with the most pain in my heart, I have left them. In fact, of the well over 100 women I have been with thus far, after I turned 20 every single one of them has been dumped by me, including the ones who thought they were doing the dumping.

    You can love and stop pretty much in the same way as you love smokes or alcohol and one day you realize how bad they are for you and never take that damn thing again.

    It’s a matter of priorities.

    #539576
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    Grumpy
    Grumpy
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    I am not capable of being “in love” in The same manner that I would have previously.

    That about sums it up for me personally.
    I have experienced 3 decades of that “emotion” continually being beaten out of me by society and people in general.
    I have no time for “love” anymore.

    There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

    #539578
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    FrostByte
    FrostByte
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    19005

    Once I internalized MGTOW I realized the romantic love was much stronger in men than woman. I know most of us her would say woman don’t have romantic love. I a disagree. I think it is different than a mans and not nearly as intense. It’s precursor to baby rabies. It’s nature trying to get you mate. Romantic love is a biology trigger to get you to commit to a woman for procreation’s sake. After procreation it seems to disappear for both sexes. Woman have baby rabies men have romantic love. Agree or disagree is irrelevant. What is relevant is it needs to be managed or it can lead to really bad choices that can potentially ruin your future.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #539690
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    Kbbroiler
    kbbroiler
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    886

    I could say that was possible before I knew MGTOW and took the red pill. Also, it would have to happen before the age of 30. That’s the only time I could see myself to be sucked in. Now forget about it. I know the deal with women and their objective. They can deny it until they are blue in the face and I won’t believe them. I also won’t believe the one so called “cool” chick and they will say well I’m not like that. Like I’m supposed to throw myself into the mix because one chick says she’s not like the others. The funny thing about these cool chicks they are usually attached and/or for some reason they want you to see the world through their eyes and not yours. The thing with me people don’t waste time on me anymore because I know the deal and argue the points very well. Anyone, who tries and sway my way of thinking will be all of a sudden in a debate which they will lose. Logic trumps emotion every time.

    #539707
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    Anonymous
    18

    Love = [{Man’s SMV/Woman’s SMV} + {Man’s earning or assets / Hypergamy}] * k [Man’s thirst + Oneitis]

    k = s~~~ coefficient: s~~~ needs to be accounted for. Unfortunately real integer value unavailable as universal standard.

    #539751
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    Monk
    Monk
    Participant
    16978

    Love = [{Man’s SMV/Woman’s SMV} + {Man’s earning or assets / Hypergamy}] * k [Man’s thirst + Oneitis]

    k = s~~~ coefficient: s~~~ needs to be accounted for. Unfortunately real integer value unavailable as universal standard.

    You forgot to factor in hamster bulls~~~ = ∞. That makes it unresolvable.

    #540184
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    : “Oh, but you’ll fall in love and then you won’t have a choice.”

    : “Not happening. Fortunately for me, I happen to be smarter than my dick.”

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