Nothing wrong with strong females.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I find nothing wrong with strong females. Strong females in movies. See Below. This is vs. the female Ghostbuster’s, where there replace men for political reasons.

Good stories vs. feminist crap.

Am I wrong?

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[Anonymous 3]

There is no such thing as a strong woman, it’s all a fantasy, and it’s pretty stupid too in fantasy.

The problem is female characters can never face true adversity or repercussions to anything they do, because everyone will scream about violence against women. This is also why having a female MC is so utterly worthless, an MC is supposed to struggle and lose sometimes, sometimes violently. A female enemy is likewise useless, as she can never be badly beaten in a satisfying way.

Whenever there is a female character she will always beat everyone, and then just magically disappear when the plot needs to move along. And even then females will scream about that, along with their white knights.

In real life it’s utterly absurd to think a 110 lb woman in high heels is going to fend off a 6’2 240 lb fit and trained monster. In real life even if the guy was 5’5 and 145 lbs he’d still get arrested and demonized for daring to even resist if a female attacked him. Because it is expected that he is so much stronger and she can’t harm him.

So to suspend disbelief and pretend women are strong is a bit too much doublethink for me.

Of course I can’t state this stuff in regular life. But I come here so I can openly state these things.

I do not respect women. I do not consider them my equals. I think any man that considers women his equal is also inferior to me, as I most certainly am not at that low level. And indeed that’s probably true, I’ve had to accept the fact that most people are inferior to me, and thus I must keep things to myself and pretend to be the drooling simpleton the average person is. I do think the average man is equal or inferior to women, I’ve seen enough evidence of that, but that is unnatural and quite sad.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I find nothing wrong with strong females. Strong females in movies.

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with strong females. The problem is that women in western society do not know what a strong woman is. Let alone do these women know what a truly independent woman is.

The women in western society think a strong, independent woman has a government welfare check in one hand, and a vibrator in their other hand.

We could list several strong, independent women, both in fiction and in real life. But, such women are a rarity in this present age.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

There are very few strong females in this day and age.
The only female that fits the bill in the fiction department is “Ellen Ripley” and she died.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

My Brothers,

There is a difference between strong, independent,and feminist, narcissistic, angry, and bitchy.

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[Anonymous 7]

There isn’t anything wrong with it but in western society the only way to be stronger than a male is to put him down and make him look like a joke while putting biologically impossible tasks in their arsenal.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Anonymous wrote:

There isn’t anything wrong with it but in western society the only way to be stronger than a male is to put him down and make him look like a joke while putting biologically impossible tasks in their arsenal.

As always, Brother Lottery, makes a good point.

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

There are very few strong females in this day and age.
The only female that fits the bill in the fiction department is “Ellen Ripley” and she died.

Actually, strong does not mean nice either.

Most of the female cast of the Black Lagoon series are strong, independent women. These women are not looking for a handout. They do their jobs, they are very dangerous. True, most of those women are crazy and very violent. With their personalities range from sociopathic to outright psychopathic.

But, these women are not trying to entrap a man. These women do show respect for some men, in a platonic way. Especially, those men that either they work for, or the men that work for them. And most of the main cast that are men will not date these women. The men will show respect to these women. But, not date these women, because these women are crazy.

Except for Rock. The series hinted that at the end of the series Revy and Rock were quietly sleeping with each other. But, Rock also seemed kind of crazy to being with. The quiet type of person that turned out to be the craziest person of them all.

Another saner strong independent women in fiction would be (Major) Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. She does her job well. She can kick all kinds of ass. Though, she is professional to her co-workers. And while she had dated, she does so not to take advantage of those she dates.

A strong woman in western fiction would be Zoe Washburne from the Firefly series. Very strong, professional at her job. Though, she treated his husband well.

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

I don’t mind strong female characters in media. In fact, I love’em if done right. An example of strong female characters done right:

These characters are made strong characters without the need of putting men down in the name of feminism and shoving gurl power down our throats.

This media is a work of art. It doesn’t rely on political agendas to be successful.

This is an example of strong female characters in media done wrong:

In this example, you have female characters winning at the expense of men in the name of feminism and shoving gurrrrl power down our throats. These types of characters are what p~~~es me off the most in western media. In modern times it always has a political agenda attached to it like feminism.

This media is an example of a movie being solely based on a political agenda such as feminism. It has no depth or character. The characters aren’t lovable. And they’re hated by anyone with common sense.

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[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

There isn’t anything wrong with a ‘strong’ woman. I assume you don’t mean simply in terms of physique. A woman with agency isn’t threatening to men, she is the only one worthy of respect. The difficulty is in finding such a women. They are so few and far between as to be statistical outliers. Women seem to want the privileges of maleness without the commensurate responsibilities. So they jealous when they don’t measure up. And really how can they? You don’t measure a 5’6″ 145 pound fighter against a 6’4″ 240 pound fighter even if they are equal skill, the physiological differences are just to great. No to mention Dimorphic differences in I.Q., spatial awareness, and a host of other things. Most of which men win out at.

Women really don’t seem to grasp the concept of ‘equity of opportunity’. If I make 30k a year in my job, and you make 100k, its not YOUR fault I made the life choices that I did to only make 30k a year. Its mine. I own it. A woman doesn’t see this though. If fact nearly all ‘socially disadvantaged’ (which isn’t a real thing) groups seem to think that you somehow owe them for being successful. Women count themselves among this group more often than not and society reinforces this, so if she makes 30k and you make 100k, you MUST have done something to disadvantage her unfairly. It couldn’t POSSIBLY be because you made different (BETTER) choices in life.

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[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

I have no problem with strong women. ACTUAL strong women. Not women that are said to be strong or are “required” to be strong when they really aren’t. Particularly in entertainment.

Think of Motoko Kusanagi (The Major) from the anime franchise Ghost in the Shell. I’m not talking about the unoriginal, s~~~ty live-action film that they plan to make with Scarlett Johansson.

I really liked The Major in the animated movie and Stand Alone Complex. She wasn’t trying to be empowering or some s~~~. She was actually pretty dependent on Section 9 and her cyberized body. She had missions and she did them, and gained a better understanding of revolutions and cyberterrorism in that universe. You actually dug deep into a believable futuristic world instead of having things force-fed with a spoon to you.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

I really liked The Major in the animated movie and Stand Alone Complex. She wasn’t trying to be empowering or some s~~~. She was actually pretty dependent on Section 9 and her cyberized body. She had missions and she did them, and gained a better understanding of revolutions and cyberterrorism in that universe. You actually dug deep into a believable futuristic world instead of having things force-fed with a spoon to you.

I know. And it wasn’t the technology that was the most believable. It was the politics. Sure it showed a clean city style society, but they showed the dark side and how everything on the surface was a lie.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

So many definitions of strong that im not sure what you mean.

You mean buff?

Like a professional female athlete?

Or woomen who have decided to face death and torture like the Kurdish women fighting ISIS?

Thing is ,as far as a lot of women are concerned a strong woman is one that does not give a f~~~ about you and would ,if she could ,manipulate,use and abuse.

I read about two women who were accomplished sword fighters.One was a highpriced prostitute (courtisan) and the other a pirate.

Im not sure what you mean.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

MgtowWave wrote:

Thing is ,as far as a lot of women are concerned a strong woman is one that does not give a f~~~ about you and would ,if she could ,manipulate,use and abuse.

I guess the primary definition for “strong” is having enough self-respect to not debase themselves of their more animalistic desires. To have enough self-control, emotion maturity, and sense of personal responsibility to admit when they are wrong. To treat people as they would want people to treat them. And to not treat, nor use other people as disposable tools to be used up and thrown away.

And this is not asking women to be virgins, nor to have not done anything wrong. Everyone makes mistakes. The point is to make as few mistakes as possible and to learn from those mistakes. But, to debase one’s self into a narcissistic hedonist is not a single mistake but a series of mistakes. And people do not come back from diving into such an abyss of corruption.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Faust For Science wrote:

MgtowWave wrote:

Thing is ,as far as a lot of women are concerned a strong woman is one that does not give a f~~~ about you and would ,if she could ,manipulate,use and abuse.

I guess the primary definition for “strong” is having enough self-respect to not debase themselves of their more animalistic desires. To have enough self-control, emotion maturity, and sense of personal responsibility to admit when they are wrong. To treat people as they would want people to treat them. And to not treat, nor use other people as disposable tools to be used up and thrown away.

And this is not asking women to be virgins, nor to have not done anything wrong. Everyone makes mistakes. The point is to make as few mistakes as possible and to learn from those mistakes. But, to debase one’s self into a narcissistic hedonist is not a single mistake but a series of mistakes. And people do not come back from diving into such an abyss of corruption.

Exactly.
A strong woman is a woman who’s ready to say “excuse me, I was wrong”.
Not always, just only sometimes, when she’s wrong.
And she should really think she’s wrong, not pretending in order to manipulate you.

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[Anonymous 3]

I agree to the topic. I would totally accept a reliable, friendly, hot, smart, strong girl as an equal partner and a friend -with benefits of course 🙂
Like the hot strong girl from Edge of Tomorrow, for example.

But the truth is, these type of women are the magic NAWALT unicorns that are kinda impossible to find in real life. And not-too-weak is damn rare too.

A lot of real life women simply do not know what “strong” really means-for me at least. I mean, being strong means to work and fight for your meaningful goals for many years day and night if necessary, and sacrifice unnecessary things, and be very creative and motivated all the time, and kick out the unnecessary and negative people of your life even if they are close relatives. I do not mean it to physical strength -as in movies-, but that maybe helpful in life too. (At least not being afraid to make ones hands dirty in some repair work.)

[MoonlightParticipant 223]

I occasionally watch Japanese series and movies (live action and anime) and I feel they do well with portraying strong female characters.

Ignoring ones with magic, martial arts and/or advanced technology, there are some that plan ahead, are manipulative or they take advantage of being underestimated. They also have their friends (both male and female) help cover their weaknesses and promote teamwork to get through tough times. It’s also not uncommon for them to be physically harmed and even hospitalized when things get rough.

There’s also a lot of female villains in their stories.

Mary Sues are too common in Western media. They’re basically traditional male action heroes with female bodies.

[Anonymous 42]

All women are strong, the only difference is that some of them use all their strength to haul all their blubber around, some are so strong they just lay there exhausted from keeping all their blubber alive.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner will always be the best examples for one major reason. They had to make up for their limited physical strengths by using their brains and being clever. This is far more realistic. It’s when we get these female characters that are somehow the physical equals or superiors of elite males that it becomes laughable, despite being far smaller, weaker, slower, less powerful, etc. Nothing wrong with using strategy or cleverness to get closer to an even playing field. Male characters have to do this as well when facing physically superior opposition. Just look at Arnold in Predator. He couldn’t beat the Predator head on so he had to use his military training to get an edge; and even then he barely made it. It’s a far more satisfying conclusion. The same went for Danny Glover in Predator 2.

If they had dialed Furiosa back a bit in Mad Max she might have been able to fit the Ellen Ripley mold. In the end she still had to rely on Max or would have never survived, but from a physical standpoint they went a bit overboard. Though to be fair she was fighting Max when he was at a severe disadvantage. She also didn’t prevail over the big bad by kicking his ass straight up. She caught him off guard.

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[Anonymous 11]

Damn, she made really quick work of that bad guy.

That was simply the lamest light saber battle I’ve ever seen in nearly 40 years of Star Wars. Thanks Disney for ruining what was formerly a decent franchise. Padme Amidala, Princess Leia and the female characters in Clone Wars were not as egregious as what Disney has now done.

I don’t mind realistic strong female characters. This modern trend of a size 0 taking on and killing hundreds of trained men with not even a scratch is getting very old very quickly. As soon as a gynocratic component is exposed, I turn it off or switch to something else.

Since Star Wars is a Disney franchise where they are milking it for every dollar. They will be getting none of mine. I had a boarder pilfer my Star Wars original trilogy to pawn for crack. I will purchase it off of eBay to deprive Disney of the money.

I can physically destroy any woman. I have a cousin who is very petite and possesses a 4th degree black belt in one of the martial arts. I would never fight her in a way where her skills would even remotely be useful to her. She would lose to me too. Her attempted purse snatcher got a really nasty surprise though.

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