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Anonymous2The argument between liberal vs conservative parties rages all over the western world, and unfortunately, a lot of MGTOWs get duped into believing that one is good and the other is bad. The truth is THEY BOTH F~~~ING SUCK!
A lot of MGTOW men seem to have bought into the idea that conservatives are on their side, because they fight with the feminists and SJWs on the left.
NEWSFLASH: They aren’t on your side! Conservatives are tradcons. They want you being an obedient slave and getting married and having kids, while at the same time supporting the very system that is f~~~ing you over. They have been wholly supportive of making men pay child support for kids that are not theirs. You know why? Because they don’t want the government to have to foot the bill!
The motto “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” does not hold true when it comes to gynocentrism in politics!
Let me give you an example:
There are two bullies that hate each other. Bully Number 1 is taking your lunch money every day. One day, Bully Number 2 comes in, beats up Bully Number 1, and then forces you to pay HIM from now on, instead of the person that was originally bullying you.
Is Bully Number 2 your friend because he hates Bully Number 1 and beat them up? F~~~ no! He’s still bullying you and taking your f~~~ing money just like the other asshole!
Just because conservatives don’t like feminists doesn’t mean they are on your side! They want you to be the traditional disposable male, and they support the gynocentric system 110%.
Don’t be fooled, gentlemen. The only ones on your side are your fellow MGTOW brothers.
Anonymous3While that’s true, Trump isn’t really part of the establishment at all, and it’s still a case of lesser evil.
Obama gutted this country and had feminists run completely wild. The feminists don’t like Trump, and Trump isn’t silencing discourse the same way the liberals did. It’s very obvious which one is the greater evil.
At the very least, with Trump we can make more money and keep more of it. Obama strangled the economy and kept stealing money, especially men’s money.
I agree with both posts ^^^
Anonymous2While that’s true, Trump isn’t really part of the establishment at all, and it’s still a case of lesser evil.
Obama gutted this country and had feminists run completely wild. The feminists don’t like Trump, and Trump isn’t silencing discourse the same way the liberals did. It’s very obvious which one is the greater evil.
At the very least, with Trump we can make more money and keep more of it. Obama strangled the economy and kept stealing money, especially men’s money.
They’re all puppets for the corporations that run the government behind the curtain. Nothing is going to change no matter who is in office because the corporations run everything. Watch George Carlin’s bit on “owners of the country”. It’s the cold truth, and applies just as much to here in Europe as it does to the U.S.
Anonymous42Why are women divorcing their husbands for voting for Trump?
Why aren’t men divorcing their wives for voting Clinton?
That speaks volumes to me beyond words!
F~~~ THE LIBERAL PHILOSOPHY!
Conservative philosophy runs more in line with MGTOW philosophy. Both support “Independence”.
Anonymous24Being a Libertarian, I see very little difference between the dems/repubs … The only real difference I can tell so far is that one is run by Zionists who want to kill all the Muslims at once, and the other party is controlled by Zionists who want to make it seem like they don’t really want to kill them all at once, while they continue killing them… All other interests seem to be not much different.
Banking/Corporate/Israeli/Military Industrial Complex/Oil Interests seem to be a common guiding force in both parties. As bad as a two party system would be, we don’t even that that, what we have is a very poor illusion of it.
As far as I can tell the U.S. is a subsidiary of Israel, as all of our money goes directly or indirectly to them.
Anonymous2Why are women divorcing their husbands for voting for Trump?
Why aren’t men divorcing their wives for voting Clinton?
That speaks volumes to me beyond words!
F~~~ THE LIBERAL PHILOSOPHY!
Conservative philosophy runs more in line with MGTOW philosophy. Both support “Independence”.
Then why do conservative politicians in the U.S. support laws that make men pay child support for kids that are not theirs? Show me all the Republicans in the U.S. that are trying to get laws taken off the books that force men to pay child support for kids that are not theirs.
You’re falling for the old “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” scheme. I can guarantee you if you were being forced to pay child support because some bitch said you were the father, even though a paternity test proved you were not the father, and you appealed to those Republican politicians for help, they would tell you to go f~~~ yourself. I GUARANTEE IT!
Neither side cares about you! They both want you to be a cuck and treat you like a walking ATM machine!
If they ever had any independent political candidates that were MGTOW-friendly in the next Australian federal election, I would vote for him knowing that because of how preferential voting works in Australia, you’re not just throwing your vote away like you would be doing in the USA if you voted for anyone but a Democrat or Republican.
Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.
The argument between liberal vs conservative parties rages all over the western world,
Neither is actually conservative or liberal. Both are corporate. Basically Coke vs. Pepsi.
However both parties f~~~ing HATE Trump. Both did their level best to keep him from winning.
And that’s the single best argument FOR supporting Trump I can think of.
Anonymous42Then why do conservative politicians in the U.S. support laws that make men pay child support for kids that are not theirs? Show me all the Republicans in the U.S. that are trying to get laws taken off the books that force men to pay child support for kids that are not theirs.
Hold up! I said NOTHING about POLITICIANS or REPUBLICANS, I said “philosophy” neither the republicans or their politicians are “conservatives”, hypocrites yes! conservatives no! Ron Paul is a “conservative”, the Tea Party are “conservatives”.
Throw that mudball somewhere else!
Of course no political party is your friend. That’s why the founding fathers of America have many check and balance to keep the government small.
But dammit the government takes more and more rights away in the name of the people interest, and many people suck them up.
The Rise of American Big Government: A Brief History of How We Got Here
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Anonymous24Then why do conservative politicians in the U.S. support laws that make men pay child support for kids that are not theirs? Show me all the Republicans in the U.S. that are trying to get laws taken off the books that force men to pay child support for kids that are not theirs.
Hold up! I said NOTHING about POLITICIANS or REPUBLICANS, I said “philosophy” neither the republicans or their politicians are “conservatives”, hypocrites yes! conservatives no! Ron Paul is a “conservative”, the Tea Party are “conservatives”.
Throw that mudball somewhere else!
Well, Paul is Libertarian, Conservative implies non liberal social views. And I am going to have to say that Libertarian would best describe a true MGTOW as the ideology is opposed to everything that would enslave a man and serve special interests, where as traditional Conservative ideology can include never ending war in the name of their god and “God’s chosen people” (Israel), and incarceration for drug offenses and whatnot…
I see not much difference between traditional Conservative ideology and Democrats/Liberals. They both take my money and do s~~~ with it that I do not like. A prime example of this hypocrisy would be the religious Conservative who hates their tax dollars going to Planned Parenthood, but are fine with 10,000x more money going to wars against Muslims who attacked nobody, and we have more than a few of these types here.
Ron Paul is a “conservative”, the Tea Party are “conservatives”.
If Ron Paul really believed in what he says, he would be supporting Trump. Trump is a MGTOW. I used to fall for Ron Paul’s liberty crap. If Paul were in charge, there would be no border – we would have the problems we have now times one million. Trump supported Paul, but Paul insulted Trump for no reason in 2012 when Trump wanted to host a republican debate. That’s because Paul knew Trump was most like him and Paul saw that Trump could actually accomplish what Paul was talking about – in terms of bringing back freedom. That’s when I realized Paul was two-faced. Now Paul is jealous that Trump is president and pushing a libertarian agenda and that Paul isn’t getting the glory. Just a jealous chump. Trump is revealing everyone’s true colors, including Paul’s. Paul has done nothing, and I am tired of the excuses that he can’t fight the system. Trump did, and Paul should be praising Trump for that. I am done with that traitor Paul.
Trump needs to take control of the press and put an end to this ridicule of him. Forget this two party system. There is no free speech, and there never will be, so we may as well have the word, and not the commies. America needs to be a one party system – under Trump. Period. These liberal commies are not going to stop and are rendering Trump ineffectual. Trump needs to become dictator and reset the country, and begin by kicking out 200 million people and arresting all the seditious thieves. There is no democracy – it’s all bulls~~~. There never was democracy. All this crap about liberty and freedom is just a smokescreen so we can keep running the hamster wheel while govt thugs (women, blue-pillers, and foreigners, but mostly women) keep stealing our money. Trump needs to turn this into a military dictatorship to root out the vipers, otherwise the liberals will start a bloody civil war and kill us all.
Then why do conservative politicians in the U.S. support laws that make men pay child support for kids that are not theirs?
Clinton and the democrats in congress are responsible for the 1998 Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act.
I think you’ll find it’s liberals who support and enforce those laws “for the sake of single mothers and children” more than conservatives, who generally have a strong libertarian bent.
Think about it. Single mothers on welfare don’t get a monthly child support check. They get a monthly welfare check from the government. Who initiated that welfare? So called “liberals”. Who passed the laws allowing the government to go after so-called “deadbeat dads” to defray the government’s cost of supporting all those deadbeat single mothers? Again, liberals. And liberals are notorious for not giving a f~~~ where the money comes from, even if it’s from men who should not be paying it, just so long as they get it.
I agree with both posts ^^^
Me, too.
I agree with both Murph and Phoneix.
Both are the enemy, but there’s a difference of degrees of dangers.
It’s like if you would be a Jew and you would have two enemies, both speaking German.
The first is the Swiss Army.
The second enemy is the SS, nazis.
Both are enemies and both must be defeated, but I know who is the major threat.Tradcons are going to try to shame men who don’t marry, not to support false accusers and gendered taxes on men.
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Anonymous24Ron Paul is a “conservative”, the Tea Party are “conservatives”.
If Ron Paul really believed in what he says, he would be supporting Trump. Trump is a MGTOW. I used to fall for Ron Paul’s liberty crap. If Paul were in charge, there would be no border – we would have the problems we have now times one million.
Holycrap, really? I can’t do this point by point as so much of your post is incorrect and bats~~~ crazy… Paul wanted no more wars, no more foreign aid for countries… Secondly, he wanted strong borders. In fact, I can’t even find anything in your post that makes sense on any level, I won’t even go into the dictatorship stuff…
Paul and Trump have very little in common, that is why he did not support him.
I think you’ll find it’s liberals who support and enforce those laws “for the sake of single mothers and children” more than conservatives, who generally have a strong libertarian bent.
There are no conservatives. You’ve been listening to that idiot book salseman Levin. Why do you think all the conservatives talk show hosts don’t really support Trump? Because if we actually solve the problems, they WON’T SELL THEIR BOOKS. They won’t have anything to complain about, and they get paid to complain.
If Republicans actually solved problems in government, we WOULDN’T NEED GOVERNMENT. You guys have got to get this through your heads. There is no two party system. Doesn’t exist. Never did. Stop thinking there is. Just STOP. It’s a damn smokescreen. Yes, there is actually more than one blue pill on this planet to swallow. You have NO IDEA just how much the women, blue-pillers, global corporations, and foreigners are in the pockets of the white man’s productivity.
Try running for office. Corporations who earn money off refugees, blue-pillers, and women will throw money at you to run, and then you will work for THEM. Refugees need homes. Who do you think is prodiving the “loans” for their homes… with interest! The corporations fund you and your competitor. When you get elected, you will then lie to the people while stealing their money to give to the corporations. You have no choice. If you don’t lie and steal and join the club, you will become entangled in some “scandal” and arrested. Or you will have to just quit.
That’s why Trump used his own money, and needs to just appoint himself divine emperor, and needs our support to do that. If you want to know what the global corps, foreigners, women, and liberal commies are planning, just READ HISTORY.
Anonymous24That’s why Trump used his own money, and needs to just appoint himself divine emperor, and needs our support to do that.
Damn, you doubled down on that?
Ok, confirmed bats~~~ crazy or paid shill to make us look bad.
Either way, I am gonna exit stage right —————–>
There are no conservatives. You’ve been listening to that idiot book salseman Levin.
I don’t even know who that is.
And I advise you to read my very first post in this very thread.
All I’m saying is the laws on the books that punish men for children that aren’t even theirs were the fault of politicians who self identify as liberals and democrats, not republicans or conservatives.
Republicans have their own faults, but you cannot pin that “Deadbeat Dad” punishing crap on them. Doing so is factually incorrect.
That’s why Trump used his own money, and needs to just appoint himself divine emperor,
The f~~~ did that come from?
Trump is definitely the lesser of three evils, but that’s all he is: less evil.
Holycrap, really? I can’t do this point by point as so much of your post is incorrect and bats~~~ crazy… Paul wanted no more wars, no more foreign aid for countries… Secondly, he wanted strong borders. In fact, I can’t even find anything in your post that makes sense on any level, I won’t even go into the dictatorship stuff…
Paul and Trump have very little in common, that is why he did not support him.
No, actually. My post is spot on. Trump is doing almost exactly what Harry Brown said he would do if elected. And remember it was you who said “bats~~~ crazy”.
I used to be a big Paul supporter. I am very familiar with all his positions. Paul SAID he didn’t want borders, so you should really spend time to learn what you are talking about before you go spouting off at someone with accusations, although when a liberal accuses me of something than I know I am 100% right. But I am guessing that’s why you don’t go point by point. Because you have no point.
You obviously have never been in business before because you don’t understand that it’s the people who are MOST LIKE YOU who are most a danger to your business, because resources are very limited. This is typical employee thinking – can’t we all just get along.
Paul wanted no more wars, no more foreign aid for countries…
Yeah, let’s go live in fairy land. Paul is a grown adult for goodness sake. Anyone who says they agree with someone who doesn’t want war is either a coffee-drinking college student, or has never left their hometown. Let me get my banner that says “No war” and go join the protest. While we’re at it, let’s all stop eating so we don’t have to kill plants or animals either. Sheesh.
Sorry buddy – you asked for it, with your insults. I didn’t insult anybody on here. Perhaps you can think of a way to respond in the future without being personally insulting, but then again, liberals can’t not insult – that’s all they have.
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