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Hello guys. this is a really long story so please bear with me.
Basically when I was a little child, I’ve had to experience the drastic divorce my parents have been through. This was a major change I’ve been through in my life. My father is now living abroad , and I still go travel to see him once a year. After this divorce happened, my mother met this new guy. At this point I was still upset about the divorce since I was a little child and didn’t know any better. When I met her new boyfriend , initially I didn’t like him at first, but as I started to grow older , he made me understand new aspects of life, he made me the guy I am today. If it wasn’t for him, I would be in total blue pill hell 10 years later.Anyway, back to the story. The first few months of meeting him , I wasn’t so happy about it. Occasionally I would overhear them having sex in their bedroom, it made me freak out and disgusted, especially hearing my mother in there. He started taking my electronics away as a form of punishment because I was being a little s~~~head. I would’ve understood if I was his age , even I couldn’t handle myself dealing with spoiled little brats like me.
Fast forward a few years later, I started going to middle school , made some friends there. By this age , school would’ve allowed me to zone off , doing some crazy s~~~ with blue pilled friends , and talk s~~~. Teenager stuff. I should also mention , we were all living in an apartment when my mom met her boyfriend.
After I finished middle school, we moved out of our apartment and into a house in another city. Had to deal with going to a new school and all that. I was in about 8th grade. As you might of guessed, I saw a lot of cute chicks , nice body and perfect t~~~. I might have been around 13-14 years old , this was the age where I was eager to get a girlfriend and to experience sex. I had no idea about MGTOW I was in total blue pill world. Well , it didn’t go so well at this new school for me. I ended up getting suspended a few months later because some stupid reason I did to impress a girl. Really f~~~ed up….. I know. As a punishment for getting suspended, my mom’s boyfriend made me camp out in the backyard for a few days.
Now here is where it starts to get interesting. He offered to homeschool me. I was literally shocked. He started lecturing me about things of life, and truth. I started watching many documentaries. I even remember he made me write a paper about Nicola Tesla. He made me watch the movie ‘The Matrix’ , I was very impressed by that movie. I started seeing the world differently, how it works. How groups like bankers and politicians are corporate criminals in society. It all started making sense. That was the first time I truly appreciated him since we met.
Every once in a while he would lecture me about things in life, about women, meeting girls. This was before I learned MGTOW. I started looking for pickup techniques and how to approach women. The boyfriend would help me on choosing the right clothes, having nice cologne, getting a good haircut, helped me on shaving for the first time. He was transitioning me from a boy to a man.
Because he was a man, he’d always understand my points of view. If you told these things to a woman, they would freak out! I had once bought a fleshlight online I was using in secret. Until one morning he knocks on my door and finds the fleshlight right next to my bed. Well , I think I might have lost it, but could you imagine if my mother had found that?
Fast forward until I was 17-18 , I was staying abroad for one year visiting my dad and his family there. I decided to order the fleshlight again. I spent 2 of them for $168. Well , it turned out my dad knew what I was ordering, so the next day he gave me a really nice surprise. He took me to an escort! Holy s~~~! That was the first time I had lost my virginity. A very intense feel and extremely pleasurable. I went wild and f~~~ed the brains out of that little whore. Unfortunately i didn’t last very long. After that this was one of the things I was extremely thankful for my father for. We both agreed to never tell my mother or anyone else.
Now when I arrived home, it came the time where I had to start applying for college. Okay , so on with that. Unfortunately though, I wasn’t MGTOW yet. I starting looking for dating sites for nice girls to meet. Found this really nice Czech girl who was my age and real sweet. I was trying to be white knight , listening to all her problems and bulls~~~ about her life. All because I wanted to get in her pants. I wanted to start a long distance relationship with her. I thought I found ‘the one’. So my mother’s boyfriend found out I was talking to this girl. He laughed about it , then we had a little lecture about it. Me and the czech girl never actually met each other and we only ended up talking about 6 months. I found out she was a liar , manipulating me , trying to get me to spend my money and all sorts of crap. I ended all communication with her entirely. That was the last straw I had with women. I started to become MGTOW
19 years old now. My mother and her boyfriend have starting to argue lately. This brought me back to those bad memories I expierenced of the first divorce. One of the last lectures me and her boyfriend had was about women , particularly avoiding marriage and hiring prostitutes . He tried to make me learn the mistakes of living with a woman. He told me about escorts and how they worked , literally how better they are than having a wife or girlfriend. And I had understood all of that, we’d laugh about all kinds of ideas. He introduced me to the movie “Risky business” with Tom Cruze , and we’d watched it together. Such a marvelous film that was. Well , when my mother and her boyfriend decided to finally separate , I was heartbroken. I was mad at my mother for doing such a terrible decision and having to affect my life AGAIN!
A year later i’m 20, going to college, living with a single mother, things have NOT been going so well lately. Me and her ex-boyfriend now , we used to exchange emails and keep in touch. Except that now I have to tell my mother our conversation so I don’t become sneaky. My mother thinks now I have been brainwashed by him by all the stuff he’s taught me. I tried to make her not forget how he helped me by homeschooling me , and helping me decide on a car. She wouldn’t be able to done that herself! And if my mom ever found out I was keeping things a secret from her, she said she would kick me out of the house. I want to move out someday , but obviously I can’t afford living on my own right now because I’m a student.
Today me and my mom had a fight, she’s read all the email conversations we exchanged and text messages. I asked her boyfriend if it’s possible we can still meet out for lunch and he’d agreed. My mother of course she found out about this and started emailing him telling him not to contact me again, and such. She wants to prevent us from meeting. My mother is blue pilled, she tried to talk to me how it’s important I get a family “if a man and woman love each other they should get married” and all that bulls~~~. For what benefit, just so another woman can f~~~ me over? F~~~ that! She has given me a fatal decision , that I never get in contact with him or again , or that I get kicked out of the house. I’m f~~~ed now and I really don’t know what to do!
One thing is for sure, women are a living hell and I AM NEVER going to get married!
i left home at 18.
shared an apartment with 3 friends.
worked a full time job,
went to college at night.
stand on your own,
or be subject to her .
you choose.
students can work.
and go to school.
restructure your schedule.
think about it.
you can do it.
Anonymous3In the off chance this isn’t tuna (which I’m about 80% sure it is), I, like hitman above me, also left home at 18.
In the off chance this isn’t tuna
i think this is a young guy who needs advice.
millenials have a situation i probably don’t fully understand.
..If you are a guy the answer to your question is simple as long as you have the ability to think about it logically.
Left home at 18 and never received a dime from my family. I moved out to an apt. near college and paid for everything with work study money and student loans.
It’s worth it for your maturation process and mental health. You’ll also do better in school which is what is most important.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I am going to agree with the other brothers here.
I too left home at 18, though I took a different path and joined the military.Guys I know that lived with their parents, and were not busting their ass to get in a position to move out on their own, all ended up seriously stunted and f~~~ed up.
It was an easy choice for me. I simply had no options and my family not only was never going to do anything to help me in this world, they were going to try to drag me down.
Cut the chord.Also moved out at 18.
First thing I’d do is refrain from telling your mother ANYTHING. No more feeding her information about what you’re going to do and why.
You’re 20 F~~~ING years old. It’s a little late for her to try to stifle who you talk to.
I am slightly curious as to how she managed to see all your messages. You’d think you have your own email account, with a password.
are you a chia pet in man drag
Anonymous14In the off chance this isn’t tuna
i think this is a young guy who needs advice.
millenials have a situation i probably don’t fully understand.
..It is tougher today than when we were kids Hitman. Price of everything has doubled, tripled, or quadrupled, and, for the most part, wages have only doubled for entry level jobs. Add in the greater competition for lower end jobs due to unmitigated immigration and I am sure it is waaaaaaay tougher than in the 70’s and 80’s. Also, if you live anywhere near a city where real estate/rent is high, it is crazy compared to back in the day.
In the off chance this isn’t tuna
i think this is a young guy who needs advice.
millenials have a situation i probably don’t fully understand.
..It is tougher today than when we were kids Hitman. Price of everything has doubled, tripled, or quadrupled, and, for the most part, wages have only doubled for entry level jobs. Add in the greater competition for lower end jobs due to unmitigated immigration and I am sure it is waaaaaaay tougher than in the 70’s and 80’s. Also, if you live anywhere near a city where real estate/rent is high, it is crazy compared to back in the day.
This guy gets it. Plus 1 to you, Joe. It isn’t as easy as “get a job and move out”. Not even close. Even if you were to take a room living in someone else’s house for, if you’re lucky, 500 a month, it’s a crapshoot you won’t be living in a worse situation than you were before you moved out. I can vouch for here in Toronto, minimum wage is just over 11 bucks and if you want to live in even a remotely decent area it’s close to a grand for a bachelor pad. At least.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
It is tougher today than when we were kids Hitman. Price of everything has doubled, tripled, or quadrupled, and, for the most part, wages have only doubled for entry level jobs. Add in the greater competition for lower end jobs due to unmitigated immigration and I am sure it is waaaaaaay tougher than in the 70’s and 80’s. Also, if you live anywhere near a city where real estate/rent is high, it is crazy compared to back in the day.
I agree with this it is tougher now for younger guys for sure but choice does he really have? She is going to continue to lord over him now that he has become a man and will start to pull him down. She is s~~~ testing him and he needs to stand up for himself or it will only get worse.
Tell her if she continues on this path of constantly wanting to throw you out you will be forced to abandon college and work a s~~~ty job to support yourself so you will not be homeless and she will change her tune fast. In her eyes you are her future meal ticket and she will not jeopardize that. If you want to see your mothers ex just do it and why are you allowing your mother to even view your texts and postings? Password all that stuff right away and never give it to her again if she threatens you to give it to her or you have to leave just leave. Start planning because if she continues to threaten you then you have to have an out just in case and leave.
In the off chance this isn’t tuna
i think this is a young guy who needs advice.
millenials have a situation i probably don’t fully understand.
..It is tougher today than when we were kids Hitman. Price of everything has doubled, tripled, or quadrupled, and, for the most part, wages have only doubled for entry level jobs. Add in the greater competition for lower end jobs due to unmitigated immigration and I am sure it is waaaaaaay tougher than in the 70’s and 80’s. Also, if you live anywhere near a city where real estate/rent is high, it is crazy compared to back in the day.
You are exactly right.
If only it were that easy for me to move out on my own. I’d have to first focus on finishing school first. Then finding a full-time job just so I could work my ass off to barely afford paying rent and bills. Living in today’s world is tough.THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I don’t know. When I was 18 min wage was 3.75. Splitting rent with my buddy had me paying 300 a month plus utilities. We had holes in our jeans, holes in our shoes. Putting in 2 dollars of gas to get back and forth to our jobs etc. Didn’t have money for gadgets and toys etc. Ate boxed mac and cheese for 3 boxes for $1. Or whatever my buddy would throw in a bag and give me when I went to see him at Mcd’s. It was hard.
Now my grandfather, cokes were only a nickel, he must have had it easy, right? NOPE. He worked in a coal mine, now that is hard s~~~!
I am not saying it isn’t hard for kids today, but I can’t help but notice they have all the latest cell phones, tablets, gaming rigs, laptops, Netflix, games, nice clothes, 30 dollar haircuts etc.
Not sure it is as hard and dire as you guys are making it out to be.
It has always been a hard scrabble way for us men without connections and family help to make it through, but you got to scramble and work for it, not mire yourself down with pity and negativity.If you don’t want to be a henpecked twenty something, living with a controlling mommy, you got to find a way. That is the hard truth of it, even if it isn’t popular.
Anonymous14If you don’t want to be a henpecked twenty something, living with a controlling mommy, you got to find a way. That is the hard truth of it, even if it isn’t popular.
Yea, that is still the bottom line really, and you are also right about all the other s~~~ people spend money on now that we just didn’t have back in the day. But I think I made about 5 an hour at my earliest jobs in the mid 80’s, that is about half of minimum wage now where I live, and rent is at least 3x what it used to be in the same area, and gas and food is about 4x so I am sticking with the idea that for the average person in society we are in decline. For rural areas it might not be as bad though, that is if you can find a job.
If you don’t want to be a henpecked twenty something, living with a controlling mommy, you got to find a way. That is the hard truth of it, even if it isn’t popular.
Yea, that is still the bottom line really, and you are also right about all the other s~~~ people spend money on now that we just didn’t have back in the day. But I think I made about 5 an hour at my earliest jobs in the mid 80’s, that is about half of minimum wage now where I live, and rent is at least 3x what it used to be in the same area, and gas and food is about 4x so I am sticking with the idea that for the average person in society we are in decline. For rural areas it might not be as bad though, that is if you can find a job.
There is definitely an element of truth to what you are saying. In some ways things are more difficult, but in other ways they sure are living pretty good compared to how we lived as struggling young men trying to find a place in the world.
I know that I did not have the apprentice types of opportunities at the utility companies etc. that were available to my dad’s generation, and I am sure the millennials feel the same in some regards.On top of all that I previously mentioned, I don’t think I watched one TV show from the time I left high school, until I finally decided my best chance was the military. I certainly wasn’t surfing the non-existent internet and watching YouTube videos etc. It was hard scrabble and grind, work, work, work some more, realize at some point how hungry I am and try to find food, sleep, and then party hard on the weekend.
Kids now, man there isn’t a show on that they don’t know every plot line too etc.
They sit around for hours and hours on the internet, watching YouTube, playing games, streaming Netflix, and all the while telling us how hard they got it.
I BUSTED MY ASS from 18- to around 34, then could finally let up a little.Men used to have to go work in filthy factories, mines, meat packing plants, slaughterhouses etc, now making a rainbow frap at Starbucks is considered HARD work.
And I know this is all sweeping brush work, and there are some exceptions, and many of the brothers here ARE those exceptions, but this whole convo about which generation has it easy, and which has it hard, is sweeping brush work on all accounts except what we share about our own stories here.
I think the bottom line is, if you want to be a man and get away from mommy (not you), start working hard and make it happen. If the guy needs to suck it up to live at home while he puts busts his ass to get himself in a position to get out of there, fine. But if he is just hanging about watching TV and playing video games… well he should consider his time there from here on out as extremely limited imo, and nothing like stepping out on the road by yourself, to finally see the options available and make you amenable to doing what needs to be done to achieve freedom for yourself.
I would not have gone in the military had things not been so hard, so sometime just the act of getting out there, opens the doors for you, and it doesn’t have to be the military, it could be something different for each man.
I’m f~~~ed now and I really don’t know what to do!
Get your own place and become detached, she is not the kind of person who should have power over you.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
That guy that raised you was not your father and has contributed to this whole mess. He had no business fathering you. If your true father had been involved he would have seen to it that you are prepared to leave at 18.
This is just too ediple for me.
(2000 year old play by Sophocles, Oedipus rex killed his father and married his mother and is a mainstay of psychology when young men are hen pecked by their mothers.)
Oedipus suspects that he was that abandoned baby. When he first came to Thebes, he met and killed a man on the road who turned out to be Lauis, his father. He then met and married the widowed Jocasta, his own mother.
https://www.enotes.com/topics/oedipus-rex
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Sounds like this environment has become too toxic and hostile. Time to make preparations for departure.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
In the off chance this isn’t tuna
i think this is a young guy who needs advice.
millenials have a situation i probably don’t fully understand.
..It is tougher today than when we were kids Hitman. Price of everything has doubled, tripled, or quadrupled, and, for the most part, wages have only doubled for entry level jobs. Add in the greater competition for lower end jobs due to unmitigated immigration and I am sure it is waaaaaaay tougher than in the 70’s and 80’s. Also, if you live anywhere near a city where real estate/rent is high, it is crazy compared to back in the day.
You are exactly right.
If only it were that easy for me to move out on my own. I’d have to first focus on finishing school first. Then finding a full-time job just so I could work my ass off to barely afford paying rent and bills. Living in today’s world is tough.Of course it is tough. You’ll have to do it sooner or later, so get started immediately. find that job, then find a place to go. No sense in having to stay there if even your own mom will do this.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
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