MGTOW has Priorites Wrong

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I agree with your original post in every way but one.
And that’s YOUR critical flaw and gaping hole in your philosophy.

A woman’s gross misrepresetation of herself is not HIS flaw. It’s hers. We know this because if you beat her at her own game, its not your “success”, it’s HER failure. Just like your arrogance. While I will be the first to tell you that it pays huge to believe NAWALT, it isn’t actually true. AWALT is also not a woman’s “fault”. Nature furnished her with the tools for dissimulation and she will try to present a totally opposite view of herself.

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• I’m not a slut (when she is THE f~~~ing slut)
• I want a nice guy (when she sucks anything but)
• I’m really glad the men I know don’t know what you know.

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Everything you said at the top is accurate….. if you could take a woman’s word at face value. You need to stop pretending he gave her that s~~~. A man would never “give” his slut wife 3 million + property. You’re behaving like he ALLOWED it. When he signed the contract… he didn’t even have it to give!! She and the state had to STEAL it years after the fact.

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If I pay for dinner and I thought she would suck my c~~~ to completion then that’s my f~~~ing stupidity. Just like a gold digger spreads her legs for a guy who says “hello I’m a doctor” and when she wakes up and finds out he’s a lying waiter, that’s her f~~~ing problem too. Nobody gets to pretend they were “used” here.

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But when a woman misrepresents herself before even the wedding and stays married for 10 years JUST to collect a payout, you have no business waxing on about how MGTOW are flawed in their thinking .. and have their priorities wrong.

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Our priorities are perfectly aligned, because we stop weddings and save men’s lives, futures and fortunes.
MGTOW.com priority number one.

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MGTOW philosophy isn’t f~~~ed. YOURS is. Right in the ass.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[…Spectator 1165]

Jesus F~~~ing Christ! What an idiot. Can somebody take this girl to the women’s shelter? OldAtHeart is 100 % correct. Saw this one coming from her first post on MGTOW PRIDE with some weird looking guys flying through the f~~~ing air. Madman and I laughed our asses off at that weak ass video. When she didn’t get enough attention or likes there, now its a new post trying to inflame the forums….that’s attention whore attempt at self validation #2. I’m sure all the guys who come here looking for advice on how to solve their courtroom dramas, lack of support from the Veterans Administration and general bashing they take in society want to listen to yet another woman telling them what to do. F~~~ you. Stop telling men what to do genius. You have no idea what you are talking about. Men look at history, and all sides of a situation, then consider their experiences, then form opinions. you are here begging for everyone to pay attention to your words which are complete garbage in my opionion. mgtow isn’t a movement. mgtow isn’t telling all other people what to do or to see it YOUR way. we make suggestions and help each other out. each man takes what is useful to them and discards the rest. @doc SMH at this one…….

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

@lightshadow:  Go Eat a Dick.

@lightshadow said: “Really MGTOW needs to complain a lot less about  “female” nature and more about how men can change their OWN nature to counteract the negative aspects of “female” nature at the root.”

As a Muthaf~~~in MGTOW Man, I strive everyday to live according to the Natural Laws of my True Muthaf~~~in’ Being.

That Shiet means that I am:

(1) Learning to become a self-realized, truly liberated, independent Man who pursue my own natural Muthaf~~~in’ Interests,  casting out all of the Society-Mandated Bullshiet that tries to make me live as an encumbered, dependent, wage-slave workaholic whose drudgery enriches others at my expense;

(2) Learning to leveraging my talents and innate potential into creative expression…Doing REALLY COOL SHIET that benefits and profits me;

(3) Having the B~~~~ to explore the Muthaf~~~in’ World around me on my Own Muthaf~~~in’ Terms;

(4) Learning to live a Peaceful Life with Stability without stepping in Bullshiet and trackin’ that Shiet all through my house and my Life;

(5) Learning to become circumspect of the world around my Muthaf~~~in’ ass…and Keep it Muthafnckin’ Trizzle (i.e. Keep it Real, Being Realistic)…

That means that…after Looking around this Muthaf~~~in’ World, I realize that “Traditional Dating” and “Traditional Marriage” all amounts to an Unequal Relationship between a Man and a Woman where the Man gives up a disproportionate  amount of his Current and/or Future Income for occasional, unguaranteed use of a Woman’s Vagina and that Turkey Sandwich I so much love to eat Buttnaked on my couch.

Oh….And with NO GUARANTEE of Long-Term Stability and Peace of Mind.

Of course, I would Love to have an Equal Companionship with a Woman if I could continue to 100% maintain my own self-sufficiency, control and ownership of my Personal Schedule and Financial Assets.

However, Muthaf~~~a…

…As a MGTOW Man….I realize that 85%+ of Woman in Westernized and Post-3rd World Developing nations are Hypermaterialism, Hypergamic Muthaf~~~as.  Thus, the prospects of creating and sustaining an Equal Relationship with them is F~~~in’ Fantasyland Bullshiet…

…like leaving Cookies and Milk for Santa…hoping for that Turkey Sandwich and some regular Pussy.

So….

Again…

Go eat a Dick.  And a Cookie.

 

 

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I think I’m just a bigger MGTOW than anybody because I’ve intrinsically not allowed any woman to really rob me or wrong me really… and when she did wrong me, I moved on to the next one. As I’ve said I’ve never had kids though. I am assuming that’s the major thing that ruins you guys lives.

I haven’t either. But I sure as s~~~ wouldn’t pretend to be “a bigger MGTOW” than a married man of 12 years who lost 3 Million + property. No woman took anything from me that I didn’t willingly give her. No divorce, no kids (2 “I’m pregnant” though and they STILL didn’t get my money), no alimony, no child support, and a failed sexual harassment attempt that humiliated her perfectly.

You created a video? Wow. Together with monkey spunk that makes you twice as useless as Anita Sarkeesian. She made 2 whole videos.

MGTOW is bigger than you and it’s bigger than we.
You’re a disgrace. F~~~ off this website. And don’t come back.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Besides (agreeing with docfendersen and OldAtHeart) did anybody of us ever clearly stipulate that we definitely want to go global or something like that…? I mean, what makes you think we absolutely want to. Ok, we get a few more members here and there on a daily basis, fair enough and in case we happen to go global then well, so be it and if we don’t so be it, too. What exactly is it that seemingly scares the s~~~ out of you, lightshadow..? We are all ears and dying to know…   What..?

Having our own place here to at times rant about women and at other times mocking about them and again at other times exchanging our views and experiences about them, hey what’s wrong with that, huh..? It in fact is mostly women, who keep droning on about things like: Hey, men should improve should evolve even or adapt and at the end of the day that is what we are doing (as a side effect of our discussions). So we are actually doing what we are being asked to do, in our own way, but hey…  And as a matter of fact we might even end up doing even you a favor along the way. Why do you want to fight that..?

Rather either try to thank us a bit instead or let us do our thing and ignore us or at worst make a little fun of us or don’t take us too seriously or whatever but fight us..?   Why…?

 

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

We’re not only talking about bad love affairs here, or perhaps you haven’t lurked enough yet to realize that. We are talking about society as a whole treating men as disposable utilities, valuing us only when we sacrifice ourselves for the benefit of others. This is the fundamental truth from which all others spring, including females treatment of males in the context of sexual partnerships… and if we say anything about it, we are shamed and ridiculed for not “manning up” and taking it.

Men are abused, mistreated, sued, cheated, mutilated, punished and even killed simply because we are men… by lovers, bosses, judges, family members and society at large. The Men’s Rights Movement believes it can correct this mistreatment through social activism and legislation and secure respect and admiration from society but MGTOW believe this is futile and that the only way society will stop treating us as disposable utilities is if we refuse to be useful and disposable.

Is that not the ultimate statement of self control? Attempts to reduce MGTOW to a bunch of sniveling losers who can’t “handle” women or get laid is nothing more than people who stand to lose by our independence and freedom pressuring us to keep wearing the yoke and saddle.

[…Spectator 1165]

a few moments ago at MGTOW CENTRAL, poster Docfenderson made this genius level comment about what MGTOW is so Listen the F~~~ Up!

“Men are abused, mistreated, sued, cheated, mutilated, punished and even killed simply because we are men… by lovers, bosses, judges, family members and society at large. The Men’s Rights Movement believes it can correct this mistreatment through social activism and legislation and secure respect and admiration from society but MGTOW believe this is futile and that the only way society will stop treating us as disposable utilities is if we refuse to be useful and disposable.”

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I’m glad you owned up to having created that video at least. I’m not sure Sandman got it but it’s clearly a snide “f~~~ off to outer space” to MGTOW. He’s young and idealistic and maybe still has a thing to learn about sarcasm. But at least he can formulate a compelling argument rather than just spewing bile and s~~~ like you.

IF you are actually a male and everything you say is true then I feel for you. When your world does come crashing around your head, it’s gonna hit you so much harder than these young fellows who are hearing the truth about their “place” in the world before they’ve had a chance to join the military and get their dick blown off because a female didn’t have their back or pay for a woman’s children she had by another man or get fired from their dream job for making a female feel bad.

And here’s the thing for me… I think Tumblerinas are full of s~~~ but I don’t hang out on Tumblr trying to prove it to them. If you’re so much better than us, then rise above, brother. Right now, you’re talking like Shaq dominating a group of ten year old kids in a pick-up game of five on one… and that says a lot more about you than you could ever say about us.

[…Spectator 1165]

@doc: been too busy troll fighting today until now to watch this video that a lot of the guys are checking out today including Soulman and Ninja James Bitch! but it perfectly shows in dollars and cents, in whiteboard style exactly what you were just saying about the system.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Aaaaallrighty there we go, straight into the fun section, ListenUp! I saw another one even more hilarious video from the same channel earlier today “dick by the foot” and this is just excellent (warning: it also is very nasty but has got the appropriate warnings actually implied in the video itself at just the right points) and here it is:

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Popp is the coolest!  LOL!  WINNING!

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Anonymous 5]

LOL at troll. mgtow is the only thing that makes sense. We go our own way, no bulls~~~, live our life happily and share stories on the internet for others to know we have suffered in the past too. Just because you don’t like someones post or someone calling a woman a c~~~ bitch slut does not give you the right to bash the website.

You sound like a hippy feminist. I read your posts. I get it. You think the site should focus on male improvement instead of woman bashing. WE ALREADY DO BOTH!!! That is what you don’t get. We share stories. we give advice. And some of us vent more than others. So you can go f~~~ yourself.

[Anonymous 14]

Don’t really have anything more to add to this. Keymaster, Doc and the others have said enough already but just wanted to leave these here.

@lightshadow
This is what your understanding of the MGTOW movement feels like

 

and this what my understanding of your long term co-habitation relationship is

[John DoeParticipant 743]

This conflict is only the beginning.   It will not go away anytime soon.  The forum is becoming more popular amongst men.  So naturally it will draw more manginas and women (not saying the above poster was either).  With that being said, I have seen this before.

Increase in “trolls”.

Eventually security measures will go up as paranoia increases.

Certain clicks will form due to an “us vs them” mentality.

Elite status takes hold.

Alienation of members begin.

Forum starts to stagnate.

Forum dies.

New forum is born.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Lightshadow,
I’ve been following your postings and the responses, and I’d like to add one. I’m much older than you and have been in and out of those relationships since nearly before you were born. There is much that I would like to tell you about mgtow and more that may help you manage some risk down the road in your relationship with the girl you’ve described (that you don’t seem to be aware of presently). But I don’t type very fast and am not certain that you are still following this thread. I don’t want to spend the time and effort typing something that you will not see. But if you are still following this thread, please make one more post below and I’ll put a response after it that will be of some benefit to you.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[GoneGaltParticipant 361]

Well, at least I can spell ‘priorities’ right!

@lightshadow: You’re sure you’re not a feminazi from Toronto? Really, that’s all I can add here, everyone else nailed it before I had a chance to see this topic. Toodles.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Oh, the guy is only a PUA troll seeking attention from his negative feedback. I’m sure he’ll leave the forum soon once he realizes that no one is going to cater to his bulls~~~. We’re not going to let the same thing that happened to the forums on “A Voice For Men” happen to these forums. AVFM used to be a good site at one time, I’m sure, where men could gather and voice their concerns. Now the site is full of WOMEN, their mangina defenders, and only a couple of MGTOW.

Perhaps lightshadow is better off joining that forum instead where he can insult the MGTOW way of life and get applauded for it.

[….Participant 305]

How the f~~~ can our priorities be wrong if our priorities are ourselves?  Just sayin

[IronSoldierParticipant 55]

One good thing about threads like these is that they prompt a lot of wisdom from the MGTOW community.

Props to doc and Ninja James in the Purple Patches thread.

[JimboParticipant 162]

You know lightshadow, you are right. Many women will treat men as the men allow them to be treated, hence why we have MGTOW.

Guess what else is right dude, these men were still at the end of the day DUPED, LIED TO, and MANIPULATED. Worse yet there is HEAVY CONDITIONING by society, friends, and family members for these men to do so. SO HELL YEAH, those women were in the wrong and that needs to be said.

In cases of fraud we still blame the perp. We may ask the victim of fraud why would they fall for such a scheme. The difference with the current state of affairs with the treatment of men is that society encourages them to go to the next proverbial street hustler while MGTOW is encouraging them to stop doing that.

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