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The more I learn about the core concepts of MGTOW the more I feel like it’s a flawed philosophy. I was just on youtube and talking to someone who paid for their young hot wife’s law school and life all through school, and then the day she graduated she turned into a total c~~~ and divorced him.
And I mean sure that’s s~~~ty, and all the MGTOWs can go “Ra! Ra! Ra! Women are S~~~!!” but come on, it was the DUDE who CHOSE to pay for her college. I think the answer is don’t put beautiful women through college. In Fact, just don’t give women money period. All these MGTOWs crying that women treat men like ATMs but buddy YOU GAVE HER YOUR PIN NUMBER!!!
I am 30 never married no kids but I’ve been in long term a few relationships, and I’m in a 3 yr long term co-habitation relationship right now, and I’ve never “given” my money to a woman. I might absorb the cost of dinner or snacks or drinks occasionally but we split most things down the middle, most importantly rent and bills. She paid her own college. Did I mention she’s 23 and intelligent and absolutely beautiful? And she’s not a NAWALT OR NORWAL OR UNICORN or any of those other dumb acronyms. She’s just a normal girl from a good family who I made clear of my intentions from the start. No bulls~~~. I met her in the street (not the club or worse the f~~~ing internet). We went on a date, we f~~~ed the first time. We’ve been together for 3 years. Living together for 1.5.
Most women are like blank slates and they will reflect back exactly how you treat them and will conform to exactly the behavior that you make clear is acceptable and desirable. Just like a computer, GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT. Before you guys start spouting off about woman nature take a long hard look at how you are ALLOWING those women to behave. A woman, particularly a young woman, is a blank slate that you can mold into whatever you want. Obviously nothing lasts forever but I certainly I don’t know why these suckers keep putting whores through college and then crying foul when they USE you.
Don’t pay them, don’t rush to marry them, and they’ll respect you more. At the very least you’ll KNOW they’re not there for your CASH. And if they leave you for someone with more, WHO THE F~~~ CARES? You didn’t invest anything really in the first place.
MGTOW SOLVED
Really MGTOW needs to complain a lot less about “female” nature and more about how men can change their OWN nature to counteract the negative aspects of “female” nature at the root.
Hi lightshadow: congratulations on your “successful” relationship. I too have had successful relationships with hot 23 year olds….last time I counted more than 50 of them over 25 years, so big f~~~ing deal. one of my really good buddies has a thing for hot 23 year olds too and last week he told me a story about financing an Olympic hopeful. Here’s the thing though: she had agreed to a long term contract which included sex with him which she briefly upheld until she went through the most recent payment…and then she would start withholding the vag for more money. her agreement was a five year contract yet she wasn’t able to keep her pussy to herself while traveling around the world on his dime and f~~~ing a bunch of younger hotter men. she AGREED to the terms, DEFAULTED on her agreement then tried to cry or use shaming tactics on him to keep that money coming in. She did very well in the Olympics and became a millionaire thanks to my friend and she was supposed to pay 20 % of the money back to him. Did she? F~~~ NO. So, you over generalized man and in my friend’s case you are 100% per cent incorrect.
Woman are not blank slates in 2015. Maybe in the 20th Century, but not today. If your woman is a blank slate she might be pretty f~~~ing stupid. IDK….feminism is a large movement and is constantly looking for new recruits. If your woman listens enough to the garbage they are spewing out for long enough, she will start to re-think everything that is going on, and then for you it is just damage control. My own experience is that any time some hot chick made an attempt to taking my resources away, I managed to escape dozens of potential mother’s in law, aunts, grandmothers and BFF’s over the years but all of them – without fail – saw me as a way to get their bills paid without them doing any work.
Next point: while you are sitting in your happy blissful space defending your girlfriend, you might want to look up the laws in your state about co-habitation. in California where I live, your girlfriend is already entitled to half of your s~~~. and if some other woman gets into her blank slate head (and believe me one of her friends is trying because woman hate to see another woman happy) you are completely f~~~ed my friend. I really hope you can make it last for a good long time man. Just realize that the local gov’t, county gov’t, state gov’t, federal gov’t, judicial system, IRS, and half the internet will believe whatever crazy crap she might say in the future and you will have the joy of paying all the bills. from jail.
You closed you post with “MGTOW SOLVED.” what the f~~~ is that supposed to mean? men are coming here in droves with their bank accounts emptied, arms and legs blown off, and their self worth shattered by current society. are you trying to invalidate other people’s life experience? i think you are way off base man. i was mgtow before it had a name. it works for me because i am choosing to opt out. which is none of your f~~~ing business if you don’t respect every man’s right to do what works for him. i have been observing female behavior for decades and my conclusions are based on facts and my own life experience. mgtow isn’t going to be “solved.” you can’t take facts and reason out of the minds of men because you had good blow job or a nice game of cards with your girl. mgtow isn’t some problem to be solved unless you are a female waking up to the fact that men aren’t gonna take getting f~~~ed over at all levels of society any longer.
I think you misunderstand MGTOW as all things anti women. Women treat men like s~~~ and use them as their personal ATM, are you going to claim this is appropriate behavior by either sex? Am I not allowed to call out North Korean prison camps because I am personally not in them? That’s BS. No, men will continue to call women out on their bulls~~~ because it IS bulls~~~. While I won’t claim to speak for all of us, I know most of us will say it is certainly the guys fault, and he shouldn’t have given her the money in the first place.
It sounds like you have everything figured out, so to that I say: good luck. I will also warn you, it’s dangerous thinking women can be shaped by a man while mysteriously ignoring all the pressures of society, her social circles, and facets of her upbringing. You say women reflect, and I wonder if you could really tell if that’s an act or true reflection. Since you’ve solved MGTOW, feel free to find other ills of society that require your help. We’ll be just fine thanks.
Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham
KeyMaster we have another blue pill parasite that seems to have found the website, and it seems the number of them are steadily rising. I think we will need to hire full time security soon.
P.S. I don’t mind having an intelligent debate about MGTOW, but at least have the decency to learn what the hell it is first before you come on here spouting your non sense.
You are 30. She is 23. She f~~~ed you on the first date.
Ok. I heard all I need to know to predict how this will turn out.
Go ahead, buy the ring, take the plunge and commit 100% to your current dialogue here. 10 years and 2.3 kids later MGTOW.com will still be here waiting with the econo-size stick ‘o butter ready to salve your backside that just got napalmed in family court. FACT. Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall (Proverbs 16:18)
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...I’m in British Columbia, Canada. She isn’t entitled to jack squat unless we had kids and she got em. Which we don’t. And she has an IUD for three more years.
And I’m not in some blissful state of perfectness either. This isn’t my first 23 year old, nor my first rodeo. Relationships ALL END. But when this one ends I’m not going to be all butthurt that I “supported her for all those years” because I didn’t. It will be a mutual going our own way, and that’s that.
Listen, I’m only a halfway troll. I am a man going my own way, and I think I always have been. I’m an only child and a f~~~ing orphan. I’ve also mentioned that most of my knowledge of MGTOW comes from SANDMAN and what I’ve seen on this group and on http://www.mgtow.com so if there is some more holy source of MGTOW knowledge I am open to it.
Anyway, I think I am a bigger MGTOW than Sandman. I’ve f~~~ed a lot girls and NEVER let them take my money. …….. to the point really just think that the LANGUAGE of MGTOW needs to change to be a more positive and introspective one. Rather than saying, “ALL Women Treat Men Like ATMs!!!!” Perhaps say, “Men these days ALLOW a lot of women to treat them like ATMs, and this is how you can protect yourself from that blah blah blah…”
I think that all adult and non-mentally retarded individuals “go their own way” I feel that the language is a bit loaded. Everybody and nobody is “going their own way”. It doesn’t really mean anything onto itself. It’s just a Fleetwood Mac song. MGTOW is way too focused on all these weird little code words like plue bill red pill nawalt simp mangina etc etc etc…… it’s this weird junk-drawer of cobbled together pop culture references, misogyny, and failed marriage butthurt from what I can tell. I identify with the movement and what it strives for but I think it needs to evolve a LOT more if it wants to gain mainstream sort-of appeal and traction. And that needs to begin with frowning upon hated of women and focusing on helping MEN navigate life (and women) with their OWN best interests at mind and that alone.
I’m not a blue pill or a red pill or a purple or green or yellow pill, I’m a real f~~~ing man that doesn’t need to hide behind obscure acronyms and matrix references
I’m not getting married , no intention of it.
But It’s been a good three years, and if we can have three more, or whatever, awesome.
Life is a process and you should enjoy it and protect yourself at the same time
You sound like an MRA NOT A MGTOW RED PILL MAN ! We don’t want to solve the worlds problems…we know better instead we’re leaving behind the non sense to focus on bettering ourselves, and ourselves alone. I don’t want to “be with” a woman you’re a slave, and you don’t even know it emotional, or financial. MGTOW doesn’t need improving, and I don’t want it to become mainstream because people like you will seek to corrupt it’s meaning. Those that think outside the box WILL find this site, and those that understand the meaning behind MGTOW will stick around. We want to avoid blue pill simple minds, and only those that have taken the red pill should stick around. You’re very very very very far from being MGTOW, and need to avoid calling yourself one. Let me help you by letting you know the category you fit into, and that is a MASCULINIST !
“Real man” This has got to be some kind of feminist prank…you’re nothing like a man consider a sex change buddy, because you’re everything like a woman.
How am I a slave exactly? I have a woman who I am attracted to who I enjoy spending time with, who is my friend and collaborator on artistic and social adventures, who lives with me? I don’t have a desire to go f~~~ STD club whores, so I don’t feel sexually enslaved either. We each split the rent as per our original agreement, —- I mean, I buy her about 100$ christmas and birthday presents —- Is that were all the financial butt-hurt will come from when we split? I just don’t get it? Where is all this money going? Women have their own incomes nowadays…
Women will treat you how you allow yourself to be treated. Spread a constructive message guys.
I’m not sure how a rational man could spend more than a few minutes reading the forum posts on this site and then come to the conclusion that MGTOW are all female hating bitter losers who have no control over their own personal lives.
Based on my own experiences and what I’ve read of others here, the story arc usually goes as follows:
1) We were brought up by our parents, our culture and all of the institutions that comprise it to believe that females were good and nice, loving and considerate, communicative and fair and worthy of our care and defense and that the measure of our worth was in how well we treated them and what sacrifices we were willing to make on their behalf.
2) We attempted in our youth to be “good men” who treated women as they and society had taught us while at the same time trying to balance those values with our own clear biological needs.
3) We slowly began to realize of our own accord that not everything we were told in point 1 was entirely true… and it turned out that the females we interacted with did not value us for how good we could be to them, but rather for how bad we could be to them.
4) We began to interact with females in higher education and the work place and began to see our friends enter into marriages… and in most cases we saw females behaving more like fanged monsters than the fair maidens we still wished to believe they were.
5) We had our own pivotal experience with a female… whether it was offering up a seat on the buss to be thanked by verbal or physical abuse or to be cheated on, divorced and taken to the cleaners by a once “loving” wife and the divorce courts… and in every case we came away with a shocked new perspective on the world of male/female relations.
6) We got angry and we started looking for answers.
7) Some of us came to this philosophy where we now tell our war stories, share our pains, point out the fallacies in our youthful ideologies and false upbringings and support each other in developing new and better strategies for relating to females, protecting ourselves and finding purpose and meaning for ourselves and our own lives outside of the system that seeks to use us for the benefit of others.
8) We aspire to and support the cause of taking responsibility for our own choices and our own happiness and though we still sometimes fail and the anger still overtakes us, we are in the process of recasting ourselves into something better, stronger and more self-sustaining than we could have ever been had we followed the scripts that society originally wrote for us.
9) We have seen time and time again that females and their weak willed proxies HATE this and will do anything they can to destroy it.
So now do you have a more clear understanding of the priorities of Men Going Their Own Way?
And well it was a few years ago she was 20 I was 27 if that helps?
She says she doesn’t want children.
Maybe she is a unicorn?
Point is doesn’t matter, because I had a 7 year relationship in the past and I didn’t come out of it broke or hurt or anything.
Maybe the problem is kids? Maybe MGTOW should be renamed Men Not F~~~ing Having Kids, MNFHK
I think it is as simple as this if there has to be any definition. MGTOW = whatever the individual determines suits his own best interest. It’s self-determining destiny.
Now if you have made it 30 years on this planet without any major upsets or scars then kudos to you. However, don’t denegrate others who have suffered some very real traumatizing events in their lives. Doing so only displays a lack of empathy towards a fellow human being. Furthermore, words like “butthurt”, “whining”, etc. ad infinitum in the context of MGTOW are just shaming language and won’t get anyone very far here. Would you walk in to a women’s shelter and tell battered women to stop whining and to get over themselves? I highly doubt it.
So the more appropriate question might be, “What is your true motivation to be here?”. It’s looking pretty trnansparent at this point.
Have a nice day.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...I just seriously can’t understand how it’s such a movement to be honest, Like yeah, everybody gets cheated on or crossed or jilted by lovers.
That’s called life. Every woman is crazy, they’re all gonna go nuts sooner or later.
Like they say,
A woman marries a man expecting him to change but he doesn’t.
A man marries a women expecting her not to change but she does.
It’s how you conduct yourself that makes the difference. MGTOW shouldn’t just be an outlet for jilted ex lovers.
lightshadow: The video from which you borrowed your avatar:
I think I’m just a bigger MGTOW than anybody because I’ve intrinsically not allowed any woman to really rob me or wrong me really… and when she did wrong me, I moved on to the next one. As I’ve said I’ve never had kids though. I am assuming that’s the major thing that ruins you guys lives.
Thanks for re-posting 🙂
I didn’t borrow it though. I created that video.
Oh Jesus Christ…I f~~~ing wish the only issue was being jilted. That’s water off a duck’s back and if you think that is what MGTOW is about then you’re either A.) f~~~ing naive as hell or B.) Sociopathic.
Goddamn son…mark my words because they are true; some how, some day, life is going to kick the living s~~~ out of you despite your best intentions and best efforts…and I’m not talking about getting jilted. When it does and people are telling you to “suck it up buttercup” as your world is crumbling around your ears, think back to this moment and maybe then you will have an epiphany and say to yourself, “Ohhhhh…I get it now!”
Anyway, I’m outta this one…pretty clear where this is going. Best of luck!
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