Lust undermines the bargaining power of men.

[Anonymous 12]

I agree with the OP. Women will sit back and let the man make ALL the moves. I don’t just mean sexual moves either, I mean she will expect him to keep the conversation going, to pick the date, the movie, the restaurant, this is of course after she has also expected him to make the approach chat her up AND ask her out!

And then women wonder why men just play the numbers game!

A number of times I have even been in bars and public places and women have made eye contact with, smiled, made me feel like they wanted me to approach them, I am pretty shy and humble so I rarely did but the thing is even in those cases when they find a man they like they still don’t make an approach.

They would rather miss the chance at losing “Mr Right” then give up on the power that holding back gives them.

 

[Anonymous 11]

Lust is our undoing. I still have it, but I keep it in its place now.

Last night, I had a 50 year old woman who has a body most 20 year olds would kill for flirting like hell with me. She’s in the top 1% of any group of post Wall women. You can bounce a coin off of her ass. It’s nothing special towards me, of course, as she just does it to make guys validate her.

I decided to play with her last night. I’d mildly complement her then shortly after that I’d make a slightly negative remark. I’d then ignore her by just walking away coldly and then randomly return to talk to her as she was an interesting conversation. I could tell that my not behaving like the other men was making her work harder to get my attention. She ended up coming over to my table and hanging all over me in her skin tight dress. I had her giving me more attention than the pussy beggars. Ignoring them drives them crazy especially the hot ones.

I’ve probably upped my chances of getting some from her, but I’d have to double bag it as you never know where they’ve been.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I won’t deny here that there is natural wants and desires, and even needs.  I can understand the wanting and lusting for sex, etc…  My feeling is that, for a MGTOW, the having the power matters more than some suffering you go through.  Idea is to take control of situation, and manage your life so that you can’t get played.  I would say that it is of benefit to try to learn ways to master things, not put yourself in a situation where you lose control, and so on.  There is pain as hell here, I am sure, but idea is to master things.

I don’t believe the world is helping either.  You need food, but society wants you to indulge in overeating.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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