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I guess I got lucky and when I was younger I got to see enough tooth and nail fighting divorces and living with mutual hate marriages that I figured out the whole thing was a life destroying sham. 31, no kids no exs and trucking saving almost all of my money.
These days whenever someone tells me they’re getting married I tell them we’ll celebrate the divorce too in a few years.
Now to be fair, I don’t think women are directly the problem, but instead it’s the culture and laws which have said that being in a marriage or having a kid means you no longer have a choice in how your money and time are used. Either way, I think the general idea here is awesome and I support anyone that believes they should have the right to control their own life outside of cultural expectations.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.

Anonymous18Starting from dating all the way to marriage is toxic for a man.
The saving grace for a man is the pleasure of raising and loving his children but the c~~~s tend to hold that against him as well.
GYOW is by far the best choice.
There is a trucker MGTOW on YouTube – MGTOW Guide.
Warm welcome.
I’d love to have a kid, but under no circumstances can I trust a woman enough to do that with one. I wear a condom AND pull out on the occasion of random tinder sex.
The only way I would ever have a kid would be through single adoption, but I certainly don’t have the money or life situation for that since I’m a live in truck trucker. That’s fine with me, I just freely explore my hobbies and enjoy a low stress life.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
By the way, my relationships we’re almost a bad joke based on this topic. In my younger years I had my own issues to sort through so things were chaotic, but I had some strange experiences when I was still testing the waters.
I tried dating a chick who’s way of flirting with me at the beginning was asking me what I was going to buy for her when I would see her. She didn’t react much to my abrupt, “nothing”‘s, so I gave her a shot. It quickly devolved into requests for shopping trips at my expense, so that ended fast.
On another case, a previous ex of maybe a year duration came back around and did something similar, even though she didn’t before, and received a similar response. The odd thing was that maybe a year after the first revisit she randomly got in touch and just asked for money outright. Then again some time later, she got in touch taking about how life is hard and money is tight, and would I like to meet up.
It really is representative of one of the worse kinds of dependent leeches that drain us dry, but it served as an occasional reminder to be that I had the ability to say no and that marriage or kids takes away that right.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.

Anonymous3A low stress life is the key to good living.
I do not believe that can be attained with involvement with a woman.
MGTOW is freedomWelcome.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

Anonymous42life outside of cultural expectations.
The only way I’ll have it!
You can’t negotiate two way traffic on a one way street.
I’d love to have a kid, but under no circumstances can I trust a woman enough to do that with one.
You’ve nailed this on the head. I wrote a post on here a few months back about my ‘inner conflict’ with this topic.
Conclusion: They will always be HER kids and there’s very little we can do about it. There’s also a big chance she will use them against you.
A low stress life is the key to good living.
Amen.
Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUTI’d love to have a kid, but under no circumstances can I trust a woman enough to do that with one.
You’ve nailed this on the head. I wrote a post on here a few months back about my ‘inner conflict’ with this topic.
Conclusion: They will always be HER kids and there’s very little we can do about it. There’s also a big chance she will use them against you.
A low stress life is the key to good living.
Amen.
Got a link to that post? Similarly it’s something I’ve put a lot of time into thinking about now that I’m over 30.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
Certainly the system and culture are at the forefront of today’s problem. But how does that explain their nature? Throughout history weemins have acted this way. Look at the fall of Rome. Or Troy or Babylon or Egypt for that matter. Same conclusions. Same ends. They don’t love us. It’s just our turn… welcome brother. You’re among friends.
For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Well I definitely find the “love” notion silly.
I occasionally try to explain to blue pill guys how silly it is to commit to the emotions caused by sexing women, but I have a really harsh way of explaining it and I usually just make them mad.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
When I was still thinking I could maybe find someone around 20-25, all I wanted was a woman that would stand at my back and be us against the world no matter the money situation or whatever else. I quickly realized that was a pipe dream. Maybe one out of some ten thousand women will actually really support a man. The rest just become part of the problems in our day.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
Got a link to that post?
Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT31, no kids no exs and trucking saving almost all of my money.
And That is how you do it. Well played sir. Welcome!
Welcome
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I’d love to have a kid, but under no circumstances can I trust a woman enough to do that with one. I wear a condom AND pull out on the occasion of random tinder sex.
The only way I would ever have a kid would be through single adoption, but I certainly don’t have the money or life situation for that since I’m a live in truck trucker. That’s fine with me, I just freely explore my hobbies and enjoy a low stress life.
I’d recommend a vasectomy since a lot of white girls now days try to pull the abortion money black mail thing.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
That’s a pretty good idea. Last time i looked it up doctors were dicks about doing it to people that don’t have kids. I wonder if i could even convince one to do it.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
Welcome Brother. Sounds like a great plan. You will own a trucking company someday.
Galatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
I’d love to have a kid, but under no circumstances can I trust a woman enough to do that with one. I wear a condom AND pull out on the occasion of random tinder sex.
The only way I would ever have a kid would be through single adoption, but I certainly don’t have the money or life situation for that since I’m a live in truck trucker. That’s fine with me, I just freely explore my hobbies and enjoy a low stress life.
Just remember, make sure she can’t get her hands on the used condom, or do what I did until I got the vasectomy, which is rinse the thing out down the sink, then turn it inside out before throwing it out.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Certainly the system and culture are at the forefront of today’s problem. But how does that explain their nature? Throughout history weemins have acted this way. Look at the fall of Rome. Or Troy or Babylon or Egypt for that matter. Same conclusions. Same ends. They don’t love us. It’s just our turn… welcome brother. You’re among friends.
Women are almost certainly genetically-predisposed to be hypergamous and only as loyal as their options. The women who spread their legs for the conquerors have more descendants than the women who fought and died alongside their husbands.
Modern culture and feminism have simply incentivized the innate female tendencies. Civilization works best when it keeps the most base instincts of males and females in check. Now feminism has simply unleashed the female half of undesirable behaviors.
My modification to something I read about stages in the cycle of civilization:
1) Hard times create strong men. (good women follow the strong men)
2) Strong men create easier times. (women become lazy and feel they don’t need men)
3) Easier times create weak men. (women pretend they are “equal” to men and stop having children)
4) Weak men create hard times. (women spread their legs for the strong men that invade)Western civilization is currently in Stage 3.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
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