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And you can f~~~ off with that tradcon bulls~~~. Seriously, how stupid does a man(?) have to be to think that’s a valid argument?
The real solution isn’t men “manning up and accepting responsibility.
No.
The real solution is men walking the f~~~ away from those bulls~~~ imposed responsibilities.
Men accept responsibility for their actions.
Your solution is that a man should run the f~~~ away and be like a woman.
Only a stupid man thinks he can act like a woman. It isn’t me saying man up. It is you saying that men should woman up.
Everything outside of a man is others delusional thoughts. Be a man.
Peace brothers
They do not have the right to choose
Yes they do. It’s the second part of Ezra’s wisdom where this all breaks down:
“You are free to choose, but you are not free to alter the consequences of your decisions.”
― Ezra Taft Benson
@sidecar: I know, but liberals do not pretend to care about men, while tradcons do. With liberals the situation is much clearer: they hate men, openly. Tradcons are more “men are okay, as long as they’re good workhorses”
I am not a liberal, I do not pretend to care about men. I care about men. I love being a man. I love my father.
I am not a traditional conservative, I do not relish a fallen man’s plight. I do not cheer at the workhorse in the minefield plantation nor do I recommend frolicking in it.
If you’re going to frolic in the mine field with women, expect to lose body parts, including your brain.
I am a man. I stand upon the ground with my face into the wind. I do not p~~~ into the wind and say I’m not responsible. I act as a man and rise or fall as a man.
If other men p~~~ into the wind because women do it and think that it is their right because they have the right to do whatever they want to do, so be it. It is your and their delusion.
Peace brothers
They do not have the right to choose
Yes they do. It’s the second part of Ezra’s wisdom where this all breaks down:
“You are free to choose, but you are not free to alter the consequences of your decisions.”
― Ezra Taft Benson
In context, I am saying that they think they have the fundamental right to choose to kill a baby or allow it to live. They think they have the right to give life or take life.
I am saying that they do not. They are not God.
Just because they say they have a “right” does not mean that they do.
They ARE free to choose to kill. But they cannot say that it is their right. They cannot justify killing. They choose to kill.
They ARE pro-killing. They cannot alter the consequence by saying that it was their “right”.
“Rights” do not exist. You do not have “rights”.
Saying that you have a special privalidge over someone else is delusional.
Human rights do not exist. If you think rights are real and you have them, then go have a discussion with a momma bears cubs.
Peace brothers
A man can’t control anything beyond himself. He has no ethical or moral responsibility for people that have no morals.
Then why do you say he has a moral and ethical responsibility for those people’s children?
They’re not his children. Men don’t get to have children any more. Men aren’t permitted to be fathers. men are merely required (by tradcuck f~~~s like you) to pay the bills for children that will never be theirs.
A dead fetus is a dead fetus.
So what?
Whomever was involved with dead-ing it did a bad thing.
Saving a man from 216+ monthly payments for a child that can never actually be his is a GOOD thing.
Not just the mommy. Everyone involved.
No man has a “right to choose”. Whether or not the child is murdered is not up to him in the least.
The man is NOT involved. It’s entirely on her. And given the huge number of birth control options available to women, and the extremely limited number of options available to men, the conception is entirely on her too.
Men are just there to pay the bills. F~~~ that. Refuse those bills.
Every human being on earth is a result of a man’s decision. Women are just there.
How the f~~~ can any man(?) be as f~~~ing stupid as you?
Seriously, you are one dense tradcuck motherf~~~er.
So the woman doesn’t equally decide to have sex? Are you going to claim that all sex is rape next because women have no f~~~ing agency? So the women doesn’t decide to not use one of the dozens of birth control options available to her?
Every pregnancy exists because a woman decided to get pregnant. Every conception happened because a woman chose not to take a little pill (or get an injection, or get an implant, or insert an IUD, and on and on and on). Every birth is because a woman chose to give birth.
Women have all the options. Women have the “choice”.
So why the f~~~ are you putting the burden on men?
F~~~ing stupid ass ignorant tradcucks I don’t even.
You think that you/we/state can convince a woman to do something.
You think you/we/state can force a woman to do something.
You think a woman is capable of being responsible.
You think a woman can be decent.Wrong.
I think a woman can be made to pay for her own choices.
She chose to spread her legs. She chose to not take birth control. She chose to have the baby.
Her choices.
And if she persists in making wrong choices, well then that’s entirely on her.
Meanwhile you think men should have to pay for women’s irresponsibility? The f~~~ is wrong with you?
Your solution is that a man should run the f~~~ away and be like a woman.
Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!Seriously, how stupid are you? Every single one of your “arguments” boil down to “nuh uh”, “poor widdle wimmins have no agency and need men to pay”, and “man up”.
Again, f~~~ off with that. This is a site for Men Going Their Own Way, not tradcuck chumps serving female crapulence.
Women demand men and everyone else pay for their choices.
When a man walks away from responsibilities imposed upon him through no choice of his own, he’s not demanding everyone else pay for him. He’s simply refusing to pay for other her choices.
A man can never be like a woman as you claim. It’s biologically impossible. Men don’t have wombs. Men cannot be irresponsible with wombs that aren’t theirs.
They cannot justify killing.
Saving a man from 216+ monthly payments for a child that will never be his justifies it.
You would enslave and destroy men to save the spawn of parasite woman.
F~~~ you.
Women get pregnant because they want to. They are responsible for their actions.
Men go along with this for whatever reason. They are equally responsible for their actions.
A man has no rights when it comes to a termination decision, and so presumably no responsibility.
But …
Is that true if the man is aware that he cannot prevent her from having a termination, and yet he still chooses to go ahead?
I would suggest that it is not, and that in that situation the man becomes complicit in her actions.
The only answer is no child.
Women get pregnant because they want to.
Exactly this.
They are responsible for their actions.
Not this.
Men are held responsible for women’s actions. And that’s exactly how that tradcuck f~~~ @dorks~~~ wants it.
or to ensure that there is no child.
And the only way to do that is by getting women to actually use their f~~~ing birth control. And you get them to actually use their f~~~ing birth control by requiring them to pay for their own pregnancies and children.
Men are held responsible for women’s actions.
Legally that’s true. I’m looking more at the moral issues.
And you get them to actually use their f~~~ing birth control by requiring them to pay for their own pregnancies and children.
Agree.
As women have no morality other than that which is imposed upon them by force, this is the only way.
I have to agree with narwhal, and in my opinion there are other laws that are more suited to be changed, or even, scrapped. Say, affirmative action-laws, laws that forces companies to hire women etc.
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
You are angry with me (my viewpoint)
You may even hate me (my view point)You see men as victims. You think that we are mistreated.
A woman sees women as victims. They think that they are mistreated.
You see women for what they are when they are wearing a pink pussy hat screaming that they are the victim.
You DO NOT see that men with a woman’s mind are wearing a pink pussy hat screaming that men are the victim.
When I responded to this argument, I understood my audience. I know that a man with a woman’s mind will be closed to reality. I know that he will say f~~~ off with thinking like a man.
I’m a crazy man. NFG
I speak crazy s~~~. NFG
I’m a f~~~ing traditional conservative cross dressing cuckhold c~~~. NFG
You say, F~~~ off with you. NFG
I understand delusion. NFG
I see your delusion. NFGWe have to rise above to be a man. NFG
Peace brothers
They are responsible for their actions.
Not this.
Men are held responsible for women’s actions. And that’s exactly how that tradcuck f~~~ @dorks~~~ wants it.
“They”. They are a man. A man is held responsible for HIS actions. If a man never interacts with a woman what is the result? You cannot prance in a minefield gayly playing with all the pretty pussies and later say I did nothing!
A woman is not held responsible because she IS the minefield. She explodes. That what she does!
Thinking like a woman when you’re a man is delusional.
The end result is fetus body parts flying through the air along with a man’s body and mind.
You try to blame a grenade for exploding and twist my words around to say that I want fetus and men’s body parts flying into destruction.
You could not be farther from the truth.
You could not be More delusional.Peace brother
Peace brothers
A man can never be like a woman as you claim. It’s biologically impossible. Men don’t have wombs. Men cannot be irresponsible with wombs that aren’t theirs.
A man’s MIND can be like a woman’s mind.
Your thoughts are not your body parts. Not the physical appearance.
A woman’s mind can never be like a man’s MIND.
That is why men are superior (spirit level of conscience) beings.
Men and women are not equal. I am not referring to our bodies. I am talking about levels of mental conscience.
A man’s nature is on a higher level (plane). In order to think like a woman a man must lower his mind to her level (hate, anger, rage). To think like a child, lower still (spoiled, petulant).
I realize that this is all over your head. Your thoughts have all been at a woman’s level. So, you don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. It’s all mumble jumble piles of f~~~ off spewed from a woman’s mind of rage and anger.
Don’t feel bad. You didn’t go down to a child’s level, for the most part.
BTW, I dont do this in real life. I leave people who think like children and women be.
I know you’re upset. Eat a cookie. Tomorrow, you’ll feel right as rain.
Peace brother
Peace brothers
A man can never be like a woman as you claim. It’s biologically impossible. Men don’t have wombs. Men cannot be irresponsible with wombs that aren’t theirs.
Strictly speaking, that’s not entirely true. Women are informed by low testosterone and high estrogen. If you take a soyboy and pump him full of enough estrogen, remove the recess and rough play, and dope him for being hyperactive, you will knock him down to an equal playing field with any rabid feminist.
Our thought processes are a result of physical bodies and chemical reactions. PTSD can permanently change a man’s personality (see: WW2 vets returning home to families that no longer recognize them). Improper sex hormone balance can do the same thing.
A man will engage on an emotional level if he doesn’t have the testosterone to make his brain function on a rational level.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805Legally that’s true. I’m looking more at the moral issues.
Legality is all that matters here. Morality is irrelevant. The moral issue isn’t putting men into real world prison for non-payment of child support for children that aren’t theirs.
But the law does.
You are angry with me (my viewpoint)
You may even hate me (my view point)No.
You’re just wrong. And wrong in a way that, right now as I type this, is destroying men’s lives for the choices of women.
That doesn’t make me angry. It makes you an asshole.
It makes me sad and tired and disappointed in you because, as a man(?), you really should know better.
Strictly speaking, that’s not entirely true. Women are informed by low testosterone and high estrogen. If you take a soyboy and pump him full of enough estrogen, remove the recess and rough play, and dope him for being hyperactive, you will knock him down to an equal playing field with any rabid feminist.
Be that as it may be, no soy boy anywhere has ever sperm jacked a man to make himself pregnant.
But women do that. And it’s perfectly legal for them to do so. And then men are held accountable for the ensuing child. And that’s exactly what @dorks~~~ is advocating (among other things) because “men need to be responsible because women won’t be” or whatever.
F~~~ that.
That tradcuck illogic is exactly why women get away with being irresponsible, which only encourages them to be more irresponsible. And men are right now in prison for it. Not to mention all the suicides.
Anonymous6Legally that’s true. I’m looking more at the moral issues.
Legality is all that matters here. Morality is irrelevant. The moral issue isn’t putting men into real world prison for non-payment of child support for children that aren’t theirs.
But the law does.
You are angry with me (my viewpoint)
You may even hate me (my view point)No.
You’re just wrong. And wrong in a way that, right now as I type this, is destroying men’s lives for the choices of women.
That doesn’t make me angry. It makes you an asshole.
It makes me sad and tired and disappointed in you because, as a man(?), you really should know better.
Strictly speaking, that’s not entirely true. Women are informed by low testosterone and high estrogen. If you take a soyboy and pump him full of enough estrogen, remove the recess and rough play, and dope him for being hyperactive, you will knock him down to an equal playing field with any rabid feminist.
Be that as it may be, no soy boy anywhere has ever sperm jacked a man to make himself pregnant.
But women do that. And it’s perfectly legal for them to do so. And then men are held accountable for the ensuing child. And that’s exactly what @dorks~~~ is advocating (among other things) because “men need to be responsible because women won’t be” or whatever.
F~~~ that.
That tradcuck illogic is exactly why women get away with being irresponsible, which only encourages them to be more irresponsible. And men are right now in prison for it. Not to mention all the suicides.
You’re right on the money. The whole line of reasoning that “men must…” is a troupe that I wish I didn’t have to hear any more. Everything involved with reproduction is so heavily favored toward women that it’s scary, and yet women still play the victim. None of that is okay on any level. Her body, her choice, her responsibility. When I get some part in the FINAL decision(s) then I’ll start talking about responsibility. Until then, I’m done. Heck I don’t even control the actual sexual act itself, SHE does. So I have no control at all at any point.
Hillary Clinton said yesterday that at first she thought we wanted to return the country to the 1950’s, now she’s afraid we want to return the nation to the 1850’s.
Listen to our discussion. If you really did remove the ability of females to gain resources from men by becoming suddenly accidentally pregnant it would up end all of human history. 150,000 years of her taking his money for her kids.
If you did this you would reverse all of humanities history. The exchange of children for money.
Soon there will be default 50/50 physical and the paper abortion where the man signs away all rights to the child if the woman decides to have it. He is then not liable for child support but cannot see the child.
This would set women back 150,000 years.
With all the woman working it will be nirvana for wise men that have gone their own way.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
The whole line of reasoning that “men must…” is a troupe that I wish I didn’t have to hear any more.
It completely fails the incentive test.
Why should men be responsible for the unilateral reproductive choices of women? Why should men pay for women’s children?
Always ask yourself: “What’s in it for me?” How does enslaving yourself for two decades to some c~~~ and her spawn benefit you?
At most it might convince dumbf~~~ tradcucks like @dorks~~~ to call you a Real Man™, but so what? How does his opinion benefit a man? His opinion is worth less than nothing, because tradcuck chumps don’t even know what a man is. They can’t, because raising someone else’s child (And it is never your child, not even if it has your genes, because “tender years” etc.) is the literal definition of being a cuck.
How does giviing a f~~~ about the opinions of judas cucks benefit you?
It’s not on men to “man up” and sacrifice themselves to make women and tradcucks happy. Not any more.
Bitches gotta EARN our consideration.
And that is not our problem.
Hillary Clinton said yesterday that at first she thought we wanted to return the country to the 1950’s, now she’s afraid we want to return the nation to the 1850’s.
Who gives a f~~~ about her either? She’s completely full of s~~~.
Women were no more responsible for their choices in the 1950s or 1850s than they are today.
Men don’t want to take women’s choices away. We just want them to start acting like adults and pay for their choices themselves.
Monk wrote:
Legally that’s true. I’m looking more at the moral issues.Legality is all that matters here. Morality is irrelevant. The moral issue isn’t putting men into real world prison for non-payment of child support for children that aren’t theirs.
But the law does.
Morality is irrelevant.
Well, there you go!
Everything I was saying was from a moral point of view.
If the principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior are not valid then you are correct. Do whatever you want.
Let me know how that goes for you.
Peace brothers
Everything I was saying was from a moral point of view.
…because that’s what people without facts, logic, or reason always do.
And your personal morality is full of s~~~.
Real, actual, flesh and blood Men who did nothing wrong are in real, actual, behind steel bars prison right now, not to mention committing suicide, thanks to your entirely subjective bulls~~~ pollyanna tradcuck “morality”.
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