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Sorry, but I’m with Sidecar on this one. The only reason women act like irresponsible, spoiled brats who always want somebody to clean up their mess is because society allows them to do so. If women were put in a situation where they knew nobody was going to come clean up their mess and nobody is going to give them any sympathy for f~~~ing up, I have no doubt that they would make better decisions. Women always think about themselves first and if they KNEW that the man that knocked her up had the option to opt out of parenthood the same way she did, and that the government or some poor schmuck wouldn’t end up footing the bill for her, then they would most certainly be making different decisions.
I’m tired of this tradcuck s~~~ of treating women like they are children when accountability comes into the picture. Women are going to take advantage of whatever society will allow. If you allow them to play the victim and not be held accountable for their actions, then it’s a guarantee that’s they will choose to do. Women have just as much choice in taking responsibility fo their actions as men do, but if society is going to let them off the hook for behaving irresponsibly and treat them as helpless victims, then women will take full advantage of it.
Murph, we align exactly. I agree 100%. IF women were held accountable BY men. That is my point. in our society today, that is not the case.
In fact, most women think (have been taught) they rule OVER man. Some even think they rule OVER God! They are delusional.
How would you treat the devil? If the devil got pregnant, what would she do?
It ain’t a accident brothers.
Peace brothers
Kavanaugh was picked because he criticized the Obamacare ruling. He wants reverse it, and get rid of it.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
So if they’re not the equal to men, then when are you taking away their right to vote? Their right to “choose”? I expect to see results from you on that. Get to it, tradcuck.
Because if they aren’t equal to men, why the f~~~ do they have the rights of men and more besides?
When the men gave women the right to vote, that was a beginning of an end. I did not give them the right to vote. I do not hand grenades to children.
They do not have the right to choose. That is their delusion.
You refer to me as a traditional conservative cuckhold. That world does not exist. We live in the pink pussy hat c~~~ world.
Women are not equal to men. They manipulated men into changing the laws to benefit them. Most men are weak easy mangina pussy’s. It only took a majority of 51% of us to destroy us. 100 years later, welcome to our minefield.
My prediction is that it will not end well.
Bailiff, whack his pee pee
Peace brothers
They manipulated men into changing the laws to benefit them. Most men are weak easy mangina pussy’s.
Exactly ! Most men are not “men”, they are just slaves, they do what they were told to do, they fear the “bad” words professed by feminists and try to avoid them at any costs. “You aren’t a mysoginist are you ? Well, if you are not one of them, so you will sign this petition to let women vote”… It is the same of a mother saying “you are a good kid, right ? So you will do as mommy says”…
We can’t undo their impact in the voting system, but we can make the voting system a legacy thing. Destroy your government, have an anarchy, create small communities of people that think in a similar way and have no leaders. They can’t control if there is no central power, if you aren’t force to pay taxes, who will give them welfare and other free stuff ? No one !
Specially for Christians, you brothers are forced to live under rules that goes against your faith, forced to accept things that you consider repulsive, just because if you don’t, the government will send the cops to bust you. Rebel against this s~~~, make the government starve without taxes, don’t be the one paying for their feminist bulls~~~.
Don’t care as long as the c~~~s and manginas pay for it themselves
Solid,
We don’t have to destroy. They are doing it well enough. Voting, etc is all water under the bridge.
My point is that it is an illusion of delusion. Bad is good. I can do what I choose. Your bad, I’m good. It’s all made up bulls~~~.
Like George Carlin said; “think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that.”
They actually believe they have the right to murder their child. And, that the government should protect their right.
My point is, that thinking is stupid. It is upside down thinking.
As George Carlin said; “here is all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And, the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid.”
Peace brothers
IF women were held accountable BY men. That is my point.
LOL. No.
Telling Men to pay for women’s children is NOT holding women accountable. It’s the opposite of that.
So what the f~~~ was all that “men should be responsible” tradcuck bulls~~~ from you?
Your point is that men should be accountable FOR women. Because “muh tradcuck male superiorituh” or whatever ill begotten retarded logic you think justifies it.
I did not give them the right to vote. I do not hand grenades to children.
And yet they have the grenades anyways. So what are you going to do about it?
Waggling your finger at men and shaming them for the choices of women is not going to do s~~~ about those grenades.
Where the f~~~ do you get off with this “it wasn’t my fault but it’s your responsibility to pay for it” bulls~~~?
Hypocrite.
They do not have the right to choose.
Forty million abortions a year show you’re wrong about that. Not one of those was a man’s choice. Men don’t get a choice.
But women do.
You really do live in tradcuck retard fantasy land, don’t you?
That world does not exist.
Damn right it doesn’t exist. And yet here you are trying to apply its bulls~~~ rules and standards to the real world.
Women are not equal to men.
And yet they have equal to superior right to men, and none of the responsibilities.
So what if they’re inferior? They should still be held to an equal standard if they want to pretend to be equal.
Giving them a pass for their s~~~ because “poow widdle inferior wimmins” and further burdening men with their s~~~ is the height of tradcuck dumbf~~~ery.
My prediction is that it will not end well.
And making men EVEN MORE responsible for the choices of women WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.
But making women pay for their choices will.
Voting, etc is all water under the bridge.
Why don’t tradcucks ever have the b~~~~ to stand up to those poor inferior wimminz?
How the f~~~ do you sleep at night?
Hell, how do you tie your shoes in the morning? Because your entire line of reasoning is, quite frankly, retarded and ineffective. The solution isn’t “men taking responsibility”. Men are already held responsible for the choices of women, and it isn’t f~~~ing working. How the f~~~ can you think that’s a solution when it already isn’t solving anything?
No, the actual solution is for men to refuse responsibility. To walk away from supporting children. To refuse to pay the taxes to support those children. To leave women with no option but to pay for their children themselves.
When women finally have to pay for their life choices, they’ll make better choices.
And if they don’t, what of it. They’re not our kids.
So they’re not our problem.
Anonymous6IF women were held accountable BY men. That is my point.
LOL. No.
Then what the f~~~ was all that “men should be responsible” tradcuck bulls~~~ from you?
Your point is that men should be accountable FOR women. Because “muh tradcuck male superiorituh” or whatever ill begotten retarded logic you think justifies it.
I did not give them the right to vote. I do not hand grenades to children.
And yet they have the grenades anyways. So what are you going to do about it?
Waggling your finger at men and shaming them for the choices of women is not going to do s~~~ about those grenades.
Where the f~~~ do you get off with this “it wasn’t my fault but it’s your responsibility to pay for it” bulls~~~?
Hypocrite.
They do not have the right to choose.
Forty million abortions a year show you’re wrong about that. Not one of those was a man’s choice. Men don’t get a choice.
But women do.
You really do live in tradcuck retard fantasy land, don’t you?
That world does not exist.
Damn right it doesn’t exist. And yet here you are trying yo apply its bulls~~~ rules and standards to the real world.
Women are not equal to men.
And yet they have equal to superior right to men, and none of the responsibilities.
So what if they’re inferior? They should still be held to an equal standard if they want to pretend to be equal.
Giving them a pass for their s~~~ because “poow widdle inferior wimmins” and further burdening men with their s~~~ is the height of tradcuck dumbf~~~ery.
My prediction is that it will not end well.
And making men EVEN MORE responsible for the choices of women WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.
But making women pay for their choices will.
Voting, etc is all water under the bridge.
Why don’t tradcucks ever have the b~~~~ to stand up to those poor inferior wimminz?
How the f~~~ do you sleep at night?
Hell, how do you tie your shoes in the morning? Because your entire line of reasoning is, quite frankly, retarded and ineffective. The solution isn’t “men taking responsibility”. Men are already held responsible for the choices of women, and it isn’t f~~~ing working. How the f~~~ can you think that’s a solution when it already isn’t solving anything?
No, the actual solution is for men to refuse responsibility. To walk away from supporting children. To refuse to pay the taxes to support those children. To leave women with no option but to pay for their children themselves.
When women finally have to pay for their life choices, they’ll make better choices.
And if they don’t, what of it. They’re not our kids.
So they’re not our problem.
Yep. Not my body, not my choice, not my responsibility.
So if they’re not the equal to men, then when are you taking away their right to vote? Their right to “choose”? I expect to see results from you on that. Get to it, tradcuck.
Because if they aren’t equal to men, why the f~~~ do they have the rights of men and more besides?
When the men gave women the right to vote, that was a beginning of an end. I did not give them the right to vote. I do not hand grenades to children.
Nope.
The error wasn’t the vote for women, also because the vote was at the same time extended to many men without wealth: the eror was giving the vote to women without drafting them.
Women should had been held accountable since the very first time they got political power.
The idea that women couldn’t fight holds no water: if women couldn’t fight, then you draft them as military nurses and other non-combat services supporting soldiers.Women are not equal to men.
That’s why it was reached a compromise: women are equal to men when it comes to vote, and not equal to men when it comes to draft.
Conservatives were quite satisfied of such compromise.The right thing to do would have been saying “women MUST be equal to men in EVERY way, IMMEDIATLY: they get vote AND the draft”
My bet is that women would had rejected both…
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And yet they have the grenades anyways.
That’s the problem with the conservative mentality: they don’t understand how a complex society works, and they think that changing 50% things is better than changing 100% things.
That’s the error, that’s how you get vote for women but not the draft for women.
Truth is that when you can’t totally stop the change then“everything needs to change, so everything can stay the same”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leopard
Indeed MGTOW is rejecting the gender role of men: providing and protecting – no more.
That’s the thing that needs to be done, since women already gave up to their role, a long time ago, so now“everything needs to change, so everything can stay the same”
Same for abortion: if you can’t stop abortion, then you focus on getting “paper abortion” for men.
If the enemy provide excuses and reasons to not implement “paper abortion” for men, then you use their same rationale to attack again the abortion for women, claiming that “one way or the other way men and women MUST be equal” – and by so, one way or the other way, women will give up.
But that can be done just only AFTER you tried to get “paper abortion” for men.
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Furthermore, I want to add a thing: EVERY kind of attack against gynarchy is GOOD.
It doesn’t matter if it’s “tradcon” (trying to ban abortion) or “modern” (paper abortion for men) – what really matters is: do NOT attack the other men doing a different kind of attack. Every time we attack other men trying to uphold a different idea (different but still in favor of men!) we’re reinforcing gynarchy.It happens when tradcucks attack MGTOW and men wanting to be single.
It happens when tradcucks oppose paper abortion for men.
It happens when tradcucks oppose sex work. At least, if one wish to oppose sex work then ask for sex workers to be jailed, or at worst for criminalizing both the sex worker and the customer but do NOT support criminalizing just only the customer!
It happens when tradcucks oppose surrogacy for single men and gays – notice that they oppose MUCH less IVF for lesbians and single women “cuz the mother is sooo maternal and sweet”…why don’t you rather focus much more against IVF (given it’s more widespread) and much less against surrogacy (given it’s much rarer)? It would be a nice thing to do FOR MEN.
It happens when we attack immigrants being accused of rape: feminist politicians passed a law banning most heterosexual sex in Sweden, the right cheered to that, they think it’s only against immigrants while it’ll be actually mainly used to falsely accuse Swedish men.
Do you want oppose excessive/unregulated immigration? Good, I oppose it too!
Cite the impact on wages (wages drops), cite the lack of jobs, cite the crime as a general thing – but, for God’s sake, do NOT focus on “rape against poor wimminz!”SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Darksith wrote:
IF women were held accountable BY men. That is my point.LOL. No.
Telling Men to pay for women’s children is NOT holding women accountable. It’s the opposite of that.
So what the f~~~ was all that “men should be responsible” tradcuck bulls~~~ from you?
Your point is that men should be accountable FOR women. Because “muh tradcuck male superiorituh” or whatever ill begotten retarded logic you think justifies it.
A man is responsible for himself. His decisions, actions and results. Good or bad.
A man is accountable to himself is my point. If he walks into the minefield, he makes the decision. A man holds the mirror up to himself. He sees the world as it is.
Peace brothers
Darksith wrote:
I did not give them the right to vote. I do not hand grenades to children.And yet they have the grenades anyways. So what are you going to do about it?
Waggling your finger at men and shaming them for the choices of women is not going to do s~~~ about those grenades.
Where the f~~~ do you get off with this “it wasn’t my fault but it’s your responsibility to pay for it” bulls~~~?
Hypocrite
I am going to do nothing about it.
I do not crusade for men’s rights.
I do not tell men to pay for anything.
I tell them not to do the thing that will destroy their life. (Have sex)Maybe we need to be shamed. To be shown the delusion, the lie. When someone says you are not responsible for your actions you know it is a lie. The person that says we don’t have responsibility is the real hypocrite.
Peace brothers
So
Are you against abortion ?
O but its murder you say ?
Talk about that later .Abortion?
I dont like it .
TBH i hate it .
But REAL life is NOT a fairy tale .
and
Not a bible story
Real life is Grimm .
Like a Brothers Grimm story .
Not a Hollywood story or Disney or any other
Guys
How many women have no business even BEING around children ???
A GOD DAMNED LOT !!!!.
Do you know that ?
I did even when i was a blue pill idiot, some part of me knew .
Took me but A MINUTE to find this:
A partial quote from someone who did some research .
“-Of all the perpetrators of child maltreatment, 54% were female……
More Statistics on Child Abuse, Or, Why Single Moms Should Probably Stay That Way
What does it say ?!
More than half of abused children are abused by
WOMENRemember and keep in mind how women use the woman card to get away from being held accountable or even accused
Read the article …..
And
Have a gander at THIS .
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=n5dGW4bgF-rR5gLP1ouQDQ&q=baby+sitter+kills+child&oq=baby+sitter+kills+child&gs_l=psy-ab.3…2128.10180.0.11229.23.23.0.0.0.0.161.2533.6j17.23.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1971…0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i10i30k1.0._VSUphSHzfA
So what are you going to do ?
FORCE a pregnant c~~~ to have HER baby ??
So she can do what ever f~~~ed up thing to him or her she wants ?
Is that what you think ?
Are you so stupid that you think you can FORCE her to treat the child well too ?????
Are you REALLY ..THAT stupid ?
In addition too all THAT we have THIS .
http://sheddingoftheego.com/2015/08/23/hybristophilia-the-female-attraction-to-violence/
Once shes had her baby
she can do pretty much with herself and that child what ever she wants .
And she can subject that child to who ever and what ever she wants .
Because WOMEN can get away with s~~~ far more than men AND its just in their nature .
Sorry.Do you consider yourself to be a decent person who does not go around harming the innocent the weak and the vulnerable ?
News flash junior
That means exactly DICK to women .
Notta God Damned thing .
Except maby it makes you a bit boring .
Until she gets tired of the CC and wants to get pared up for a while to a meal ticket to “help” her with,,,.. what ever .
What, do you think you are superman or something so that after sweet heart decides to monkey branch on you , you have some kind of super powers so you can FORCE her not to let her psychopath/sociopath bf move in with her “your kid/s” ?
Or her move in with him?Ima father myself .
Thats a situation i faced .
MANY MANY many do
She had a series of dirtbags coming and going .after we split up
Violent criminals
Con artists
Kooks with anger management issues .
Etc.One of them has been in prison going on 10 years now .
Every couple of years i Google his name .
Way back then
I told that f~~~wit .“Keep your hands off my kid or i will KILL you”
Yea i had the police at my door a few days later .
Ancient history .
Almost 20 years ago .
Heres a wad for you to chew on .
She suddenly got pregnant after i was sick of her s~~~ and was about to leave .
Thats how my son was conceived .
She thought she would use THAT to hang on to me for a while more .
Something A LOT of women do .
Because it works .
Not always but enoughI just got God Dammed lucky that things didnt turn out a WHOLE lot worse for me and my son .
I was lucky i was just able to stay in his life.
And soo many other ways that a lot of men never get .
Children are the ones who suffer .
And society .
Single motherhood is a plague on civil society and part of the reason for that is biological programming that women have .Keep getting these women pregnant and watch the collapse .
Do you understand ?
i was a Blue Pill fool like maby some of you are .
Are you really deluded with thoughts of NAWALT ?
Because if you are
GET THE F~~~ AWAY FROM ME .
I mean you guys say you are MGTOWs
So you should KNOW better than to be skeeting up inside ANY c~~~ .
Unless you have been snipped and have a real good attorney .
Guys
the women who are the worst mothers produce the children who grow up to commit the most crimes .Another biological wheelbarrow load for you to digest .
It takes WEEKS of growth in the womb before a fetus knows feels or thinks ANYTHING
https://www.scientificameriwhen-does-consciousnesscan.com/article/-arise/
Do you think to send abortion back to back alleys ?
Or how about self abortion by , lets say drinking a 5th of liquor ?
Please use you head for something other than a hat rack .
Im sick of this Trad Con bulls~~~ being expressed in MGTOW circles .
Its retarded
Take that s~~~ to Mrs Piggys AVFM .
Or some other TradCon circlejerk .
Wanna be a father ?
Are you really a MGHOW ?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/straight-single-men-wanting-kids-turn-surrogacy/story?id=16520916
https://www.miraclesurrogacy.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk972vraY3AIViWSGCh0KKQSqEAMYASAAEgKjKPD_BwE
O but you say Surrogacy is expensive ???
Having kids is expensive .
i know because ive been there .
Maby YOU shouldnt be having kids then .
MGTOWs are NOT TradCon retards .
Like say Prager U .
We told them to f~~~ off .
Remember ?
MGTOWs are men that think and learn and KNOW things .
Thats why Stardusk is known as the Thinking Ape .
Does the word RedPill ring a bell ?Hate on me all you want .
Frankly madam I dont give a damn
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
That’s the problem with the conservative mentality: they don’t understand how a complex society works,
I’d just like to point out here that liberals have the exact same problem.
A man is responsible for himself.
But the woman’s child, the villages child, the state’s child, is not himself. He has no ethical or moral responsibility for it.
Again, how is forcing men to pay for the children of women going to convince those women to be more responsible about having children? How is forcing men to pay for women’s sluttishness going to convince women to stop being sluts? How is sending men to prison for being unable to pay child support or taxing them to pay for welfare going to convince women ti actually use one of the literally dozens of safe, reliable forms of birth control available to them (and not available to men)?
Thus far your only argument has been “because man up”.
And you can f~~~ off with that tradcon bulls~~~. Seriously, how stupid does a man(?) have to be to think that’s a valid argument?
The real solution isn’t men “manning up and accepting responsibility.
No.
The real solution is men walking the f~~~ away from those bulls~~~ imposed responsibilities.
Maybe we need to be shamed.
You can f~~~ right off with that. The f~~~ is wrong with you?
@sidecar: I know, but liberals do not pretend to care about men, while tradcons do. With liberals the situation is much clearer: they hate men, openly. Tradcons are more “men are okay, as long as they’re good workhorses”
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Darksith wrote:
A man is responsible for himself.But the woman’s child, the villages child, the state’s child, is not himself. He has no ethical or moral responsibility for it.
Exactly. You look through the lens of all the things that are not himself. (Village, state, etc)
A man can’t control anything beyond himself. He has no ethical or moral responsibility for people that have no morals.
What other people do effects him is your point. What they do is wrong! What they say to justify their actions is wrong. That doesn’t mean that what they are doing is right. But, it isn’t you.
If you did wrong, you did wrong. If they do wrong, they did wrong. No one has the right to do wrong. Doing wrong is never right.
A dead fetus is a dead fetus. Whomever was involved with dead-ing it did a bad thing. Not just the mommy. Everyone involved.
That does not include you, me or other men not involved. But, saying that A man is not at fault is delusional. Every human being on earth is a result of a man’s decision. Women are just there. They lay figuratively and literally under a man.
Rage, hate and arguments will not change reality. We are men. Only we can rule ourselves. We can’t control what other stupid men do. We see that they are stupid men. They are the equivalent of a woman. Pathetic in their nature with the belief that they can choose to do wrong and that it is good. And they take delusional to the next level and try to tell us that they are doing bad for OUR good.
All I am doing is saying that they are full of bull s~~~. They speak lies. Dead babies are bad. Those involved did a bad thing.
Peace brothers
Again, how is forcing men to pay for the children of women going to convince those women to be more responsible about having children?
This is where you fall off the rails.
You think that you/we/state can convince a woman to do something.
You think you/we/state can force a woman to do something.
You think a woman is capable of being responsible.
You think a woman can be decent.I do Not!
I’m a man going the other way. Towards being a man.Why would a woman be anything other than what she is?
How can a woman become a unicorn?
When I say only a man can be responsible for himself, I mean exactly that.
Sadly, the number of men in our camp is dwindling. Most men are women.
It may upset men when they realize that men are held to a higher standard. I know that they may want to be and act like a woman because it is much easier.
In your specific argument, you want women to be, act and get treated like a man. This is delusional thinking.
Just because our societal narrative says women are men doesn’t make it reality.
I do not look at what society or women say to find truth.
Be a man. Don’t be a woman.
Peace brothers
Again, how is forcing men to pay for the children of women going to convince those women to be more responsible about having children?
This is where you fall off the rails.
You think that you/we/state can convince a woman to do something.
You think you/we/state can force a woman to do something.
You think a woman is capable of being responsible.
You think a woman can be decent.I do Not!
Why would a woman be anything other than what she is?
How can a woman become a unicorn?
When I day only a man can be responsible for himself, I mean exactly that.
Sadly, the number of men in our camp is dwindling. Most men are women.
It may upset men when they realize that men are held to a higher standard. I know that they may want to be and act like a woman because it is much easier. This doesn’t mean that a man acting like a woman is good.
Be a man.
You missed the point here completely. There is no need to force a woman to act a certain way. That’s nonsense and not at all what he said.
What was said is that women should not be shielded from the consequences of their choices.
If women were not insulated from the consequences of their s~~~ty choices, they would make different ones. And yes, given a different environment, with a different risk vs. reward metric, women make different choices.
The answer, is no.
I can’t understand why men aren’t educating the younger men about the dangers of female entrapment.
This information is not standard in the men’s studies curriculum? Oh…
Most of the dads are asleep at the wheel by social conditioning
Was going to say, Then I saw your next remark.
Think about how many dads simply aren’t In the picture to pass on that knowledge
No dads, no male school teachers, boy scouts gone SJW, a perfect setting for gynocentric grooming.
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