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Do we in the MGTOW community favor abortion or not? Each will be different of course but there may be a consensus.
You mistake MGTOW for a political philosophy, it isn’t and it never could be. Men simply cannot operate as a collective for the interests of men.
But as for Brett well do some reading on him, because I don’t think he would over turn roe v wade. The constitution by its nature puts a lot of power in the courts. The court will rule in favor of what is culturally favorable, Obergefell v. Hodges would have never passed in the 1980’s or even the 90’sA MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
give up newborns for adoption.
problem solved.
no need to murder
no need to give women licence to murderproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
He seems to be same and rational. More importantly, leans towards being a constitutional originalist. He’s more about interpreting law rather than making law from the bench.
Roe v Wade isn’t going anywhere, despite the pearl clutching from dems.
My view on abortion is that I’ll never have one. That said, I had an ex I had just recently broken up with tell me she was late and going to get a pregnancy test. In those few minutes before she told me she was f~~~ing with me, I seriously entertained the idea.
https://youtu.be/Y4xiVUeecNQ?t=1m9s
Start the vacuum cleaner.A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Anonymous11I strongly oppose feticide.
However, I firmly believe all *cide crimes are the individual States’ decisions to make.
Roundtrip airfare to any one of the airports serving New York City is very inexpensive in the Eastern US probably less than the actual feticide procedure itself. I’m sure that the same deal applies to any of the major cities in all other regions of the US from any regional level jet service airport. I can fly to Chicago very cheaply too. Planned Parenthood and the feminists can assist any woman who wants to commit legal feticide in any legal feticide State they desire.
There will be no need for a vacuum cleaner.
Abortion is murder.
YOU are responsible for your actions.YOU cannot undue murder.
YOU cannot justify murder.
YOU are not God. You do not get to choose to murder or not murder.Any thought, discussion, or argument is delusional thinking.
If you as a man THINK (have thoughts) that lead down a path that THINKS it is okay, justified or acceptable in ANY way to murder your OWN child or someone else’s child then you are thinking like a woman. Because these thoughts my brothers are delusional.
Peace brothers
Would like to know more about the guy then just his stance on abortion. More then a few people are already talking about how that is going to be knocked back down to a states issue.
I do think issues related to mgtow are going to show up in the man’s term on the court if he makes it. Speech is going to be tested. Religion is not done and over with yet.
If the man is upfront constitutionalist, then lets get the man on the bench.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Anonymous1I’m pro-choice.
The less people the better
Yep. The planets already overpopulated.
I don’t like 99.9% of the population, so it’s a pretty good chance it’s someone I’m not going to like that’s being aborted.
I’ll take those odds all day long.
Anonymous1I personally haven’t aborted anyone, so I take no responsibility and it’s not on my conscience.
The more people on this planet – the more the planet gets trashed and the more tax I pay.
That’s just the way it is.
I want to elaborate or correct something.
I said that you are thinking like a woman.
That is incorrect.
People that choose to kill their child are delusional children. They are petulant spoiled children to be specific. Think of “Violet” the girl in Willie Wonka.
I want it NOW.
They murder their child on one day and then protest picket (wearing a pink pussy hat) not allowing illegal alien children to be separated from their parents and calling us BAD.
I don’t speak for mgtow or anyone else. I speak for myself. If I murder my child, then one day I will HAVE to look in the mirror and see myself for what I am. A BAD PERSON WHO DID A BAD THING. It’s not called pro-choice, it’s called pro-murder. Right versus wrong. If you don’t know the difference then you are in a delusion. That is why we shouldn’t have relations with a woman until we understand reality (red pill reality).
Pro-choice would include the woman that believe in it receiving a tattoo of a #deadbaby above her vagina. That way the blue pill men could atleast see what they were getting into.
This is why I feel nothing when they scream hate at me. They are projecting the blood on their hands and trying to smear it onto me as they run screaming into their night trying to avoid looking into the horror of their mirror.
What’s worse? The blue pill men that think this is the unicorn of their dreams!
Peace brothers
Peace brothers
I agree with the others who argue it should be a States issue. Murder is and always has been a matter for states to make law upon. I don’t see why this should be any different.
Once the decision comes down to a state level, the issue is going to get a lot more attention with a lot more options to resolve the issue. 50, instead of 1. I’d say there’s a decent chance that the issue of men’s rights when it comes to childbirth starts entering the conversation when abortion laws are written. That has to be better than the complete lack of conversation we see now.
I also think that it’s going to empower more people to feel like they have a real say in the matter. There vote counts more since there will be less votes at the state level, and they’ll be able to vote with their feet by moving to a state with laws they favor. That will also have economic impacts on the states. I wouldn’t be surprised to see abortion states decline while non-abortion states start to rise.
Then there is the possibly that other issues will take there proper place at the state level. All good things.
In general, it’s change. Change will open conversation and question accepted norms. Kind of weird how the liberals don’t want the norms questioned, while conservatives are looking for change.
Ok. Then do it.
I agree with the others who argue it should be a States issue. Murder is and always has been a matter for states to make law upon. I don’t see why this should be any different.
Once the decision comes down to a state level, the issue is going to get a lot more attention with a lot more options to resolve the issue. 50, instead of 1. I’d say there’s a decent chance that the issue of men’s rights when it comes to childbirth starts entering the conversation when abortion laws are written. That has to be better than the complete lack of conversation we see now.
I also think that it’s going to empower more people to feel like they have a real say in the matter. There vote counts more since there will be less votes at the state level, and they’ll be able to vote with their feet by moving to a state with laws they favor. That will also have economic impacts on the states. I wouldn’t be surprised to see abortion states decline while non-abortion states start to rise.
Then there is the possibly that other issues will take there proper place at the state level. All good things.
In general, it’s change. Change will open conversation and question accepted norms. Kind of weird how the liberals don’t want the norms questioned, while conservatives are looking for change.
Compartmentalize the issue so that NYC and LA don’t determine parental rights for the country. Then, if I want to live in a state that respects a father can actually have a vested interest in his future progeny (I can see this in TX, MY, AL, MS, and KS), I have that option.
These retards aren’t pro choice. They’re pro “their” choice being imposed on everybody else.
What have the feminists been saying to cudgel men into being walking wallets for 18 years? It takes two to make a baby? I think It should require two to unmade that baby except in very specific situations downstream of actual felonies.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805Compartmentalize the issue so that NYC and LA don’t determine parental rights for the country. Then, if I want to live in a state that respects a father can actually have a vested interest in his future progeny (I can see this in TX, MY, AL, MS, and KS), I have that option.
These retards aren’t pro choice. They’re pro “their” choice being imposed on everybody else.
I wouldn’t include Texas on the list. The big cities are rather liberal, we are loaded with illegals, and of course, we’re 50% female.
In general the women here will chameleon the conservative woman. She wants her guns. She wants her man to keep his money (so she can get it from him). She wants to appear to be the woman men want. However, I think that will change quickly when she can’t have a sneaky abortion, she can’t opt out of marriage when it’s not so fun anymore, or when she can’t make a man pay for her baby.
Almost all states will be a battle zone. The low population and maybe fly over states will be the first to really become a haven for men. Then watch the economics shift.
Ok. Then do it.
I like the Nomination personally. I Think anyone that is Pro second amendment is a good start.
As for Abortion, it is morally wrong in my eyes. There are way too many qualified men and women that are eager to raise a child, and thru adoption many of needs of the man, female and the child can be addressed.
My main issue with abortion tho, is I Don’t want to pay for it, or have mine or anyone’s tax dollars funding this facade!
I don’t see Roe vs Wade being undone, but if it is taken out of the governments funding, that is at least a change in the direction of this abomination.
Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!I’m old enough to remember it still being illegal. When I was in high school it was only legal in New York. I knew many a princess that made that quick trip to Broadway. I also knew a doctor that was getting real rich in my hometown doing them on the quiet. Roe vs Wade changed that. Fact is you can’t stop it. Make it illegal you just make a black market.
Anonymous2Every single abortion is a man NOT on the hook for 216+ monthly payments.
The only problem with abortion is it’s a woman’s unilateral “right to choose”, but a man’s sole responsibility to pay. As always, Men get stuck paying for women’s choices.
Where the f~~~ is my “right to choose”?
Where’s the f~~~ing equality?
Hear, hear! I make the exact same argument. A bitch can get knocked up, and then either have an abortion, give the child up for adoption, or drop the baby off at a f~~~ing church and be completely free of any responsibility! A man, however, has no f~~~ing choice! He’s on the hook whether he wants to be a parent or not, and if she chooses to abort or give up the baby, he has no say whatsoever!
When women walk away from being a parent, society labels them victims, but when men do it, society labels them scum. Total f~~~ing hypocrisy!
Anonymous1give up newborns for adoption.
problem solved.
no need to murder
no need to give women licence to murderWho’s going to adopt them?
That comment is nuts.
Do you really think it’s going to play out that way?
And several upvotes for something that’s bereft of reasonable thinking and forward sense.
It just won’t happen.
They overturn Roe and there will be outright rioting in the streets.
Naw. This is women we’re talking about. There will certainly be whining and bitching and p~~~ing and moaning in the streets, but rioting? I doubt it.
And even if there is rioting, it will only be for a few days and in a few cities until it burns out. So you have two choices there: be somewhere else, or make a game of it and join the Korean shopkeepers on the rooftops. I’m betting those pink hats are easy to pick out in a scope.
give up newborns for adoption.
problem solved.Wrong.
The foster home system is already overflowing with unplaceable children shat out by parasite c~~~s who thought they were getting a meal ticket. And a man is on the hook for child support for each and every one of them.
Abortion is murder.
So what if it is? It’s not my child being murdered.
Under the modern “family” courts it’s no man’s child. It’s her child. It’s the village’s child. It’s the state’s child.
It’s not our child.
Even if it has our genes, it’s still not our child.
But it is our 216+ monthly payments. That’s definitely still on men. As is the jail time for being unable to make those payments.
You are condemning millions of innocent men to debt, jail, and suicide just so you can cuddle your precious “higher morality”.
F~~~ that.
Given the prospect of going to jail for a child that isn’t even mine, and will never be mine, I’ll scrape the little bastard out myself.
YOU are responsible for your actions.
Wrong.
You have that exactly backwards.
In the first place, abortion is NOT our actions. It’s her action. It’s entirely her “choice”.
And if she “chooses” not to get an abortion, if she chooses to have the child, then we are on the hook to pay for it for decades.
So no.
We are responsible for HER actions.
And she has no responsibilities whatsoever.
How the f~~~ is that fair? Again, f~~~ that.
Fact is you can’t stop it.
On the contrary, we can stop it. We really can effectively end abortion. Just not the way everyone thinks.
Make it illegal you just make a black market.
True, which is why we stop abortions a different way. A real way. An effective way.
It’s simple.
1. End child support. Give men an equal right to choose.
2. End welfare. Give the taxpayer an equal right to choose.Once children are no longer meal tickets, once women have some responsibility for their own “choices”, they’ll start actually using their f~~~ing birth control for a change. There won’t be any more “Oops!” pregnancies once women understand it’s a burden on then, not a benefit.
No “accidental” pregnancies == No abortions.
Problem solved.
Republicans have made Roe v. Wade a rallying cry for almost 50 years. (scotus decided this case in 1973, that’s way longer ago than many of you have been alive)
I have my doubts that the R’s are going to give up a fund raising tool like abortion.
Just rolling down the road
YOU are responsible for your actions.
Wrong.
You have that exactly backwards.
In the first place, abortion is NOT our actions. It’s her action. It’s entirely her “choice”.
And if she “chooses” not to get an abortion, if she chooses to have the child, then we are on the hook to pay for it for decades.
So no.
We are responsible for HER actions.
And she has no responsibilities whatsoever.
How the f~~~ is that fair? Again, f~~~ that
Your actions! The act of inserting your Johnson into her c~~~ and spewing YOUR seed into her dumpster.
That physical exertion makes you responsible for the consequences of your decision. Pretty simple really.
Peace brothers
Darksith wrote:
Abortion is murder.So what if it is? It’s not my child being murdered.
Under the modern “family” courts it’s no man’s child. It’s her child. It’s the village’s child. It’s the state’s child.
It’s not our child.
Even if it has our genes, it’s still not our child.
But it is our 216+ monthly payments. That’s definitely still on men. As is the jail time for being unable to make those payments.
You are condemning millions of innocent men to debt, jail, and suicide just so you can cuddle your precious “higher morality”.
F~~~ that.
Given the prospect of going to jail for a child that isn’t even mine, and will never be mine, I’ll scrape the little bastard out myself
The ACT of killing a living human being inside a womb is murder. It’s not about moron number 1 girl or moron number 2 boy. It is the fact of killing 3 child. They can call it what ever they want to justify their decision but at the end of the day it is a dead fetus.
I am not condemning innocent men. It wasn’t an immaculate conception. They (anyone involved) are not innocent. Only a woman thinks that way. Only they can take away responsibility and accountability. As a man, we do not have this LUXURY. Take the red pill and then you understand that one screwup and you are toast. Tread carefully brothers.
I am simply stating a fact. Abortion is murder. Pretty simple. It is about the child, duh.
The real issue/problem is that we have spoiled children f~~~ing each other before they have a clue. I was included in this group. I was young and stupid and lucky. But if they would have, or did get pregnant and aborted my child it was murder. I had no clue. I believed the bull s~~~. I was a moron. Don’t be a moron
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