Karma

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

It’s no secret that I’m NOT into organized religion. but I have to say that I’m a believer in “karma”, or “what comes around goes around”, or however ya want to explain “it”.

I have seen it happening too much for me to believe that it’s just a “coincidence”.

Someday in Some Way what ever you put out there, both good and bad, just seems to have a boomerang effect.

Any other “believers’?

Any experiences/stories you would like to share?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[NoLongerBlindParticipant 530]

Yes…it’s a Universal Principal…!!! They CANNOT AVOID what has happened…the cruelty…the nonsense…

[StealthParticipant 5347]

The jury’s out here.
Karma seems very much to me like imposing an IDEAL of equilibrium or justice upon REAL LIFE, much like ideas of heaven/hell, or Marxist economics. But REAL LIFE is NOT that way.
I do believe however that your actions have consequences. But nothing is promised, nothing is owed, and practically speaking nobody is watching.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Stealth wrote:

The jury’s out here.Karma seems very much to me like imposing an IDEAL of equilibrium or justice upon REAL LIFE, much like ideas of heaven/hell, or Marxist economics. But REAL LIFE is NOT that way.I do believe however that your actions have consequences. But nothing is promised, nothing is owed, and practically speaking nobody is watching.

I would say if you screw over enough people, eventually you are going to screw over someone who is just as bad as you. And when you do they are going to seek revenge. Call that karma if you want to, or call it common sense. Most people will probably just walk away and be happy to get them out of their life. But some people will make you pay. And if you play Russian roulette often enough, eventually the gun will go off.

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Karma doesn’t exist. It’s really just low grade natural selection, and it only goes one way.

Play stupid games; win stupid prizes.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

If there were karma, the family court and specifically my judge, would have pre-emptively caused the rapture.

I behave well so I can talk honestly with people.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Not a big believer. I’ve seen too many dirtbags walk away from the train wrecks they’ve caused. If it does work, it’s too slow.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Ogre wrote:

Not a big believer. I’ve seen too many dirtbags walk away from the train wrecks they’ve caused. If it does work, it’s too slow.

Same here

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 38]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction: karma is an irrefutable law of nature.

Most people only look at surface actions and reactions and decide karma cannot exist.

They see the shyster with his outward success – money, family, education and career, and compare to the good man who has nought, and say, “karma does not exist”.

In a world intoxicated by the material possession, power and influence, relevance, approval.. the shyster becomes the successful model.

The good man is the ‘loser’. The man who stands for truth and justice is persecuted in this world of immoral, wicked individuals.

I have experienced this myself. I am a loser in the cutthroat world of business and ‘careers’. I am not great at business because it is not in my nature to extract the most I can from others. Or to push a product or service which is not in a person’s interest. My nature is to do good unto others, even if this is at a cost to myself. I could not last in the corporate environment where success is achieved by Machiavellian means. On the surface I looked ‘weak’ because I ‘couldn’t stand up for myself’.

No. The truth is I chose not to, because the only way to stand up for yourself and thrive in those environments is to become a sociopath. To manipulate, obfuscate, to become violent. Believe me I could have destroyed every single one of them f~~~s. But at what cost? The movie American Psycho is highly relevant here.

My compassion dictates I cannot harm these people for they are merely ignorant. Foolish, naive of me? Most people certainly think so.

That’s the problem. We created environments where kindness, honesty, integrity are actually considered weak and even harmful. Not just by women but by MEN TOO.

I’d rather bow out and work minimum wage in a warehouse where I don’t have to destroy others or myself to prosper.

And yet, I am happy. And people know I am a good man. I cannot say the same for many men I know.

I have the strength to be a good man even if it means society at large considers me a ‘loser’.

I’m doing just fine, a lot better than most of the moneyed and professional people I know. I have money, achieved through honest means, health, time and friends. Never touched an antidepressant in my life.

Just one example, and my own, I admit. But I cannot help but believe this is simply my karmic payback for my good intent throughout life.

Just like the ‘successful’ yet miserable people is the same proof.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Anonymous wrote:

In a world intoxicated by the material possession, power and influence, relevance, approval.. the shyster becomes the successful model.

I think that people look at “karma’ as it has to be an almost “instant” one for one exchange, and I believe that it’s ANYTHING but that.

How many ultra rich people can’t stop working? They have everything that they could ever want, but don’t enjoy any of it. They become slaves to their work/ego, and so they shall remain til they draw their last breath never experiencing their freedom.

How many times have you heard of the “hard working” man that climbed the corporate ladder doing whatever he had to do to get there only to get knocked off by one of his many enemies, or they come down with cancer and die before they can enjoy any of their time, 401k”s, pensions etc.?

How many mega rich/famous have the world by the b~~~~ one day, and then they fade away until you hear that they lost everything and/or committed suicide?

etc. etc. etc. etc.

I call it Karma, but maybe that’s not the right term??

It just “seems” to happen so frequently that I have a hard time calling them all coincidences, accidents, or “that’s life”.

Call it what ya will, but from my experience, ‘what comes around, goes around” and “payback is a BITCH”

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 38]

Awakened wrote:

I think that people look at “karma’ as it has to be an almost “instant” one for one exchange, and I believe that it’s ANYTHING but that.

Yes, this is a key misunderstanding of the uneducated.

If you give the homeless guy a dollar today, and then are waiting for the return, which you think may be finding a dollar on the street, or a lottery win, then you are an absolute dunderhead. Sadly I do think there are many people like this, however it is no longer my concern to be all twisted about the lack of comprehension and understanding of stupid people. I do not have time for that.

The payoff for such an act could simply be inner contentment at your act of compassion. The fact there is no obvious ‘payoff’ makes the act all the more admirable, for that was an act of pure mercy. Further, if you did not ANTICIPATE a payoff, and did it simply out of kindness, with no hoped for benefit to yourself, that is one of the highest moral acts you could perform.

The homeless guy might be filled with something good. Others might see what you did, and might be positively influenced.

No one is saying give away everything you own and live in a box. We have needs that have to be fulfilled. But if you live your life in a compassionate way, generally you can expect that compassion to be returned over your lifetime.

The good man will influence others to be good, and the bad man will influence others to be bad.

But I also think a key problem is people opt for a binary way of living. Someone would look at what I’ve written and say “well I’m not giving stuff away for free, that’s the way to achieve nothing!” And are stingy in almost everything they do.

All I am saying is there is a price to pay for this. And that is karma.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Karma is just probability. People who do stupid things long enough usually get hurt. People who do too much evil s~~~ usually have someone who wants to come after them.

Then again, some people slide though with probability, doing stupid and evil s~~~ and never collecting their “punishment”.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Ranger One wrote:

Karma is just probability. People who do stupid things long enough usually get hurt. People who do too much evil s~~~ usually have someone who wants to come after them.
Then again, some people slide though with probability, doing stupid and evil s~~~ and never collecting their “punishment”.

At my place of work there is this miserable evil bitch manager. She came down with some f~~~ed up disease/impairment which gave her some temporary paralysis.

Probably just a coincidence as compared to karma, but it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person. LOL LOL LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

It rains on the just and unjust alike.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Ranger One wrote:

It rains on the just and unjust alike.

This is TRUE, but it sure seems “just” when the “unjust” get poured upon !! LOL LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[HermitParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

I call it Karma, but maybe that’s not the right term??

I know you’re not a spiritual man, but the Bible calls it, “reaping what you sow” and I do believe it no matter what you call it. Eventually, no matter how long it takes, everyone gets their “comeuppance” whether it be due reward or just punishment.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Hermit wrote:

“reaping what you sow”

“What Comes Around Goes Around”

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[narwhalParticipant]

There is no karma. However, there are consequences. What’s the difference? Karma doesn’t require that an action is logically related to the end result. It’s relying on some mystical force for it to work. Consequence is when your actions are logically tied to the end result. It’s just logic.

People claim karma when a woman who cheats on her husband and then gets skin cancer. The two are unrelated, and there is no scientific or statistical data that ties the two together.

Consequence says that a woman who lays out in the sun all day every day is likely to get skin cancer. Not guaranteed in many cases, but certainly increasing the odds.

I’d also say, and I don’t mean to be rude to anyone, that hope in karma is actually rather lazy and selfish. It means you’re hoping for a particular end result without having to put in the work to bring the end result to a reality. If you want good karma for yourself, you’re hoping to win the lottery because you’ve been a ‘good guy’. If you want bad karma on someone else, you’re hoping something bad happens to someone, you want revenge, without having to even put any effort into making that person suffer. On top of that, when karma doesn’t happen as you wish, you get the stupid feeling that the universe is against you or something of that nature.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

There is no karma. However, there are consequences. What’s the difference? Karma doesn’t require that an action is logically related to the end result. It’s relying on some mystical force for it to work. Consequence is when your actions are logically tied to the end result. It’s just logic.

Karma is an example of “Magical thinking”.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Branched offParticipant 10950]

People tend to reap what they sow. Its not magic, it just follows (most of the time not always. Its a correlational thing, not a direct relationship. However average it out over millions of people and you will get a strong effect.

The odd nasty entitled feminist will do very well and be held up as an example but most will lose a little more than they win from their ways because they are only sowing selfishness. Even natural selection is against career women.

Over time what is sown will flower and be reaped. Its just nature. Enjoy nature ladies. You should all get to feel like “natural women”.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

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