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I found this one as well. It is clear at the 2:02 that there is more then one shooter, one close to the concert and one farther away firing much longer burst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBZMh19_Dws
Apparently this was taken down several times.
This is the story that went with the people who made the video. You draw you own conclusion about the firecracker comments. Dam odd.
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(From a FB post before it was deleted) A personal story on Vegas Shootings so it doesn’t get lost The original had over 22K shares and 20K comments before it was taken down. So Jason Aldean was 5 songs in if I remember correctly and the fire crackers went off in the middle of his performance and people all around us were looking around dazed and slightly confused, then 15 seconds later the fire crackers went off once more (to break the second window where the shooter unloaded his first magazine) I saw the muzzle flashes as soon as the fire crackers stopped and there was a man who tumbled over my girlfriend and I and said there was shots and there was a guy in front of him who died right away. Then more shots started and we all dropped and at that time my girlfriend was frozen and still and had 3-4 people on top of her I pulled her out from under the people and ran for 5 seconds and then another series of shots came and more bodies went down with wounds and blood was all over the place and even on me at this point. That moment there was 3-5 people I saw completely unresponsive on the ground. We got up and ran for around 15 seconds and I continuously checked my back to feel a shot wound and I was under great relief to find that I was not shot before more shots came but since everyone was running towards the entrance the shooter at MGM was shooting as everyone was running towards the entrances to exit. My girlfriend and I kept VERY low the entire time we heard any shot. We ran to the back of the venue and there was an Orange Gate pried up on the fence and people already on it climbing to get over. I got over and they were 2 girls on it who froze and I yelled “COME ON LETS MOVE… DOUBLE TIME!! LETS GO” and they raced up the gate and got over the fence and we proceeded as well and we ran across the street to Tropicana parking lot where more shots from Mandalay proceeded and we hide behind cars in the lot. We all proceeded through a hallway where everyone had their hands up and was proceeding through the hallway and then went into a common area with 3 exit points. One for the pool area where a gentlemen with a black polymer suitcase walked in and I frantically asked if he worked and he was entirely calm and said no and I asked to see what was inside the suit case and he scoffed and said no and another man yelled “YEAH WHATS IN THE SUITCASE IM WITH THIS MAN” and as he started to open the case everyone started yelling in the room where they were escorting everyone and they all scattered and ran through where we entered . I ran outside where the pool area was and my girlfriend stayed back as she froze again, 5 seconds passed as I ran out the door and I didn’t see my girlfriend and I opened the doors and she was on the ground crying and I yelled and told her to come as I ran to grab her we got out and hid in a cabana that was closed and laid on the couch there for 30 minutes I kept telling her to keep her down and keep quiet as there was a shooter in Tropicana that was to my understanding still on the loose so we kept real quiet We then proceeded to an alleyway by the parking structure and saw muzzle flashes coming from Excalibur and New York New York and I pushed her to the pillar and she froze (every time shots went off she froze so I had to help maneuver her into safe positions) we then ran through a hallway and a guy grabbed my girlfriend and said to go down the hallway towards the Tropicana entrance and I was not going inside so we ran around back into the alley where I saw an industrial trash can and told her to jump in first and we laid in there and found cardboard boxes and I pulled them over us to keep cover and we laid there for 3 hours as the helicopters and police personnel were scavenging the area We then figured running to Luxor around 1:30-2am would be fine and as we jumped out there was a police who helped escort us to the now locked down with police in tactical gear Tropicana and to escort us into the convention center and they made sure everyone was unarmed and we had water and blankets and everyone was waiting for the police to clear the rooms in the surrounding hotels to allow us back into our rooms. We personally didn’t get released to go to Luxor until 4:20 am and we are now okay.
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Hey thanks for the link to the vid. Interesting.
I know there is a difference between incoming and outgoing bullets. Depending on if the bullet is coming towards the individual or away from the individual, the sound changes. From my understanding, when it’s outgoing there is a delay, a drag, or like an echo, like a pooow, pooow. On incoming, the sound is much shorter and sharper. Pop, pop. However, I can’t tell from the audio. I still suspect that it’s a sound system.
I heard in the video someone say that someone was giving life support. No idea what she was talking about. But as far as paramedics and things of that nature. I’m pretty sure they would stand down, not put themselves into immediate danger, especially in this type of scenario.
As far as the testimony. If you get a group of people together to describe an event, they’ll all have a different story. Memories and perception are quite strange. We hallucinate events, add images, delete images, to fit into our current map of reality. This is well known and why personal testimony is known to not be that accurate. With that being said, it’s an interesting read, but I believe the personal video is the best bet when it comes to developing an opinion on the situation.
With that being said. In this last video, the link above. We can see how people are behaving. Is it real? Is it not real? Referring to how they are arguing about whether the gun shots are real or not.
Either way they are still panicking and uncertain. I suspect, though I’ve never been in they type of a situation, that if the gun shots were real, there would be absolutely no question what so ever. You would simply “know”, I could be wrong on that, but I suspect that you would know, especially how long it was going on for. Plenty of time to listen to it.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
This thread and it’s theories has gotten absolutely insane! Some people here actually think no-one died in this event and the entire thing was staged/a hoax? You have got to be kidding me.
A friend of mine’s niece was at this concert. I talked to him on the phone and he was recounting her experience to me. Two people she knew were killed at this. She saw people all around her getting shot and dying.
I can’t believe ANYONE of you thinks this might be staged or a hoax.
That is beyond nuts to me.
Resident cynic.
No one want to look in the mirror and realize “I am a fool”. I get that bud.
So, your GRAND conspiracy theory, which entails a multitude of people all conspiring together, lying, and not ONE person comes forward to tell the truth, seriously sounds more plausible to you than an insane man stuffing suit cases with guns and killing people (?)…
The police? Lied to and none of them report any suspicious behavior…
Some of the people in attendance? Actors, all conspiring together, and not ONE of them comes forward stating they were paid and/or something awry went on?
WTF is going to take a paid acting gig in the middle of a mass murder/shooting? What, did the SECRET GOVERNMENT post ads on Craigs List? –
“Acting gig in the middle of mass murder.
Requisite skills – screaming and crying.
Potential risks – death.
The ability to lie to the entire world after our country’s greatest mass murder is a +.
No remorse, guilt, concern for others or your future also a +…
Please send resume via CL to Secret Government.
PS – there will be zero benefit to you or the country after the performance and mass murder, because gun control will not be enacted and we already know that. We just like to perform mass murders every few years to our own citizens”.
Yes, yes I would HATE to look in the mirror and realize I’ve been played a fool because I can’t admit to the obvious truth of your grand conspiracy stated above.
Simply, insane.
Resident cynic.
Forgot one thing –
There was an article on either Breitbart or Drudge this morning (I forget which one as I read both) and they interviewed a prostitute that this shooter would regularly see in Vegas. She regularly spent hours with him and he would spend $6K for her. She said he both:
1. Was obsessed with 9/11 conspiracy theories <—Yes, that’s right, the crazed mass murderer was one of these conspiracy loontards. He thought 9/11 was an inside/government job; kind of like some people on this thread think his mass shooting was a conspiracy/government job.
AND
2. He paid her to act out his crazed and violent rape fantasies. His biggest turn on was fantasizing about violently raping a woman.
This guy was simply nuts.
It was also reported he made over $5MM in profits in 2015 almost exclusively through his gambling habit. High stake gamblers are eccentric and exhibit eccentric behavior. I seriously doubt any casino would bat an eye lid at a high roller like that bringing multiple suit cases up to their penthouse, which they gladly comped him. Casinos want their money back.
There was also an interview with one of his wives friends acquaintances. This guy vacationed with him several times (as two couples) to both the Philippines and Vegas. He said the guy acted crazy/batty. He wasn’t some normal next door neighbor type.
Resident cynic.
There was an article on either Breitbart or Drudge this morning (I forget which one as I read both) and they interviewed a prostitute that this shooter would regularly see in Vegas. She regularly spent hours with him and he would spend $6K for her. She said he both:
Oh please. Give me a f~~~ing break with that s~~~. What, now they’re smearing the guy through this ridiculous f~~~ing bulls~~~.
There are clearly two different gun shots heard on that video ironheart posted.
Jesus Christ, it’s like we the public don’t know our guns…we’re not f~~~ing stupid you know. Some of us are actually awake.
A lot of us shoot, some here have been in the military. Take a look around. There are countless of military men, former vets, gun enthusiasts coming forward and saying the sounds are from a full-auto belt fed machine gun, two different shooters at least.
the whole thing stinks to high heaven. There’s no f~~~ing way I’m willing to accept the official narrative.
Even Michael savage, the die hard conservative, full Trump supporter, is coming out and saying the official story makes no sense. Many military veterans have called his show to express their disapproval of the official story.
Americans are beginning to wake up.
God bless peace and freedom.
And the idea that it’s a hoax, the people responsible for it would not be the government, maybe certain people in government roles could play a part, but in the end, the root, it’s private interest.
It’s about making money, not really even about controlling people, but the money that can be made by controlling people.
I’m certainly not suggesting that the government had anything to do with it. If it was staged, it was by private business with the motivation to make money. And some of these events, like when the hedge fund managers hired people to stand outside the banks in 2008 and pretend it was a run on the bank, it was to short the bank stocks. They profited massively.
“A friend of mine’s niece was at this concert. I talked to him on the phone and he was recounting her experience to me. Two people she knew were killed at this. She saw people all around her getting shot and dying.”
I remember when the pulse event occurred in florida. It seemed like every gay guy on the planet had a friend that was there and killed. Including gay friends I had on facebook. People lie. People lie for attention, to get laid, approval, all sorts of reasons. People lie. You heard it from a guy who heard from… that’s double hearsay. And useless information.
Get a direct testimony, and that’s worth at least something, at least it’s worth listening to.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
I’m not sure why this question is being asked or what’s with the gun control slant I’m reading in the comments.
I was in Las Vegas during the shooting on the street. I was running from machine gun fire. Everyone, including myself, believed there were multiple attackers on the ground. There were also gunshots reported in the other hotels. Tons more to tell but it would take too much time.
To help answer the question above: Guns jam and overheat. And some guns are short range (AK-47) and more powerful. Others are long range, more accurate but “less” powerful. He had so many for maximum effect. He could just throw and grab. That’s why you see the two chairs in the hotel room photos stacked with guns. Pull fire and reload or throw and grab another. The more guns the more carnage. There may have been another person. Maybe not. There were gun shots in other hotels and people running. I heard 2 or 3 shots in the lobby at the neigboring Casino. I do not know if these were real gunshots or caused by some kind of acoustic sound wave phenom. I think it’s the latter. An experiment should be conducted using firecrackers or blanks to prove this. There are unanswered questions from people like myself were in the other casinos for shelter and heard the gunshots coming from inside the lobby.
Also none of the casino security guards were armed. They also herded everyone into containment areas and said they would “protect them”. They did a really good job but without a gun it was all theatre.
Also, anyone in this website advocating gun manufacturing lawsuits, bans, or restrictions, is a fool. When you are caught in a life or death situation, an unarmed fish, waiting to be killed by terrorists, you will wish you had a gun. Casino security could have justifiably killed this guy earlier had they guns and training. As a matter of fact, casino security reached him first, which prevented this from going on 60+ more minutes or more. The police resources were spread thin because of reports of gunfire coming from many casinos.
Now, why was I there. Why was I at the wrong place at the wrong time. I was out living my life having fun. Like a real MGTOW. Not bitching about women on the internet.
I logged onto this site after many months away. I refuse to correspond with VIRGIN HERMIT LOSERS HIDING BEHIND THIER COMPUTERS daring to call themselves MGTOW.
You f~~~~~s need to GTFO this website and to some VGTOW shut in hermit website like forever alone. That’s the website you belong on until you grow some b~~~~.
I will not be associated with bums, Captain America virgin losers. Either in real life or online. You have no life experiences you have no business calling yourself MGTOW. Yes I will define what MGTOW is now.
Surferdude. All the guys I grew up with surfing were in top physical shape, partied and got pussy. Get out and get some young tight blonde pussy inbetween your front side snaps and floater 360’s. Lots of under 18 teen girls want to f~~~ surfers because they have that “look”. Hope your getting some good pussy. Unlike many of the losers on this website who are not MGTOW but VGTOW virgins. Ha ha ha ha. That’s why I will not be seen around here no-mo. Show me a site with real MGTOW’s and I’ll be a happy participant.
This website bitches about women. Women this. Women that. Bitch bitch bitch bitch. Altough correct in many regards. I’ve come to see this just reality. It is what it is. And the PUA sites have it right in terms of addressing this issue. Either PUA or be hardcore religious (like Mormon) and you will get a hot wife for life with far less chance for divorce.
All these virgin losers calling themselves MGTOW coming on here generalizing about women because in reality your a loser with no life experience; your’re chronic complianing isn’t going to fix your life at all. I will not be your “online companion”. My friends are winners.
And honestly, Look name calling aside, when you’ve experienced what happened in Vegas last weekend, you learn quickly that none of this MGTOW stuff matters and a life of hate and complaining is a waste of life. Keeping up with the latest tabs on women in the feminist age of Merica is really not important. Living your life is what’s important. Being close to your friends, family and God is what’s important. If you don’t have any friends or family use this website and other websites to meet people. Use other websites. Just get off your computer. Go out. Go places. Anywhere. Just I’m just saying. Seeing the same virgin loser avatars still posting on this website is sad. It means you haven’t solved your unich issues. Just saying.
Life is too short to spend it bitching about women.
Later.
now they’re smearing the guy
I’m really not concerned about the guys image, at this point.
sounds are from a full-auto belt fed machine gun, two different shooters at least.
So the grainy audio and video is the clear evidence there must have been two shooters? He had 20+ something guns in the room, so I’m sure he probably did use more than one of them.
What, again, is the more probable theory any of the contrarians in this thread are putting forward?
Resident cynic.
Like x11 said – I think I’m done with this thread. Some people just HAVE to believe in conspiracy theories; but never have a more probable theory themselves to put forward.
Simply more and more questions, and any amount of evidence is fake. Now, even the people with gun shot wounds in hospitals is being called fake.
Ya, they are all actors. That is insane!
I’m all done here.
Resident cynic.
grainy image?
There are MULTIPLE videos from various sources indicating the same thing: multiple shooters…overlapping sounds of auto fire. Different pitch, distance from the source variance.
Multiple people at the scene saying they heard two shooters.
I’m really not concerned about the guys image, at this point.
me neither. But, I see bulls~~~ when I smell it.
Instead of showing us video surveillance of the guy bringing in his suitcases full of guns, instead of showing us HIS OWN video surveillance that would apparently show his demise from a gunshot wound, instead of showing footage from HIS OWN cameras placed outside his room to monitor who would be standing outside his room, which would show the SWAT team there before they rushed in, they tell us about prostitute making claims.
I’ll take the many of these GRAINY videos over no video from the officials investigating this thing. This makes no sense.
It’s interesting that in all of these situations, there’s NO VIDEO showing the prep gunning people down. Somehow, that’s a national security issue. very interesting.
God bless peace and freedom.
I’m all done here.
frankly, me too. And, I shouldn’t have been so emotional. no offense meant.
God bless peace and freedom.
Again,
I was standing outside on the street next to the kill zone. Had this psychotic killer wanted to kill myself and the others standing on S Las Vegas Blvd he would have just had to aim north. His shots would’ve been more precise but thankfully for me, he was focused on spraying the “kill zone”.
I have put forth a reason on multiple shooters but nobody gives a s~~~ (all the casino staff, Uber drivers, neigbors, ex GF , family and others I’ve told etc.) And I was in the casino and HEARD the gunshots coming from INSIDE the casino and way the people run. In the weeks ahead you should see casino videos showing all the people run but I don’t think you will see a shooter. Even though if you asked me to swear an oath there were multiple shooters I would have said yes. But here is my objective hypothesis:
An acoustic sound wave phenom on the Las Vegas strip. The desert terrain and buildings. The sound bounced off the buildings and sounded like multiple shooters.
P.S. Alex Jones is an idiot. I’m still waiting for him to PROVE there was “ANTIFA crap” all over the room. If he does not prove it he’s a liar. The police have not mentioned any Antifa materials at the scene.
Yeah, I find it interesting, but it seems like a all we can do is make judgments on what is not true, but we’ll never know the truth.
It’s like anything. It’s on the news, eventually it’ll disappear and no one will think about anymore, just like all the previous events. It just becomes lost in the sea of news. Eventually something else will happen, and everyone will be talking about that, and all of this will be forgotten. It’s my observation, that the majority of people can’t remember what happened in the news 2 weeks ago.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
P.S. Alex Jones is an idiot. I’m still waiting for him to PROVE there was “ANTIFA crap” all over the room. If he does not prove it he’s a liar. The police have not mentioned any Antifa materials at the scene.
How is he going to prove that? He wasn’t there to witness it. The info is based on hearsay of Hostage Rescue Team sources. If you don’t think AJ has his sources everywhere important – you’re the one who’s an idiot, because in the past they were consistently proven to be legit later on. Also, why would police spill beans on what they found on the scene? Sheriff did mention they are looking into radicalization. But it’s the FBI who’s handling the case right now, not the police. And if you have blind faith in FBI after all these years, you missed all kinds of memos.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I’m always suspect of groups in the news. None of them seem to hold weight, long term. It’s just like a political move, blame a ‘group’. The only time I’ve seen where a human will be self sacrificing is in a cult or a gang, where the group is a replacement for their family. And for those, the individuals were involved in it at a young age, and they needed that group to survive. Or they were brainwashed, held in complete isolation, and removed from the outside world. Thinking of the mass deaths that have occurred in cults.
So the idea that this guy sacrificed himself for the sake of a group, or because of literature, or some political cause, I honestly can’t buy it.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
P.S. Alex Jones is an idiot. I’m still waiting for him to PROVE there was “ANTIFA crap” all over the room. If he does not prove it he’s a liar. The police have not mentioned any Antifa materials at the scene.
How is he going to prove that? He wasn’t there to witness it. The info is based on hearsay of Hostage Rescue Team sources. If you don’t think AJ has his sources everywhere important – you’re the one who’s an idiot, because in the past they were consistently proven to be legit later on. Also, why would police spill beans on what they found on the scene? Sheriff did mention they are looking into radicalization. But it’s the FBI who’s handling the case right now, not the police. And if you have blind faith in FBI after all these years, you missed all kinds of memos.
Alex appears to have gotten his ANTIFA accusation from a hostage rescue team tipster inside the hotel room. Alex didn’t show the blurred out text later. If it turns out to be unfounded or the police deny it then as far as I’m concerned Alex was lying or at best – his source was lying. Either way, Alex put his rubber stamp on it. If it’s not true or unfounded – then in my opinion Alex is a liar.
Elements of radicalization (from Antifa or ISIS or Nazi) remain to be proven.
I’m all done here.
frankly, me too. And, I shouldn’t have been so emotional. no offense meant.
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