Is it really that necessary to beat children?

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    Varun
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    Jesus said ” whoever does harm to one of these little one’s,would be better off to have a mill stone tied to them and cast in to the deepest ocean “

    Just out of curiousity… why are bible verses so contradictory to each other? I mean one guy here cited out a verse that exemplified hitting as good.. and now this verse my Mr. Hitman above.

    No offense to religious sentiments but are there a lot of contradictions in the Bible?

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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    Just out of curiousity… why are bible verses so contradictory to each other?

    i think because the bible was written by more than one person..

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    I only beat other people’s children

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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    I mean one guy here cited out a verse that exemplified hitting as good.. and now this verse my Mr. Hitman above.

    No, he said this one verse is often used to exemplify that the bible recommends beating.

    Eskimospy wrote:
    “Spare the rod and spoil the child!” That Bible passage is often quoted as a defense for beating kids. The rod is used by shepherds to lightly tap the sheep to guide them to a particular direction not to beat them to that direction. So the verse means that a child must be guided. It dose not mean a child must be beaten, only to be guided. I’m no fan of the beating of children, but I am a fan of guiding them.

    and now this verse my Mr. Hitman above.

    Hitman wrote:
    Jesus said ” whoever does harm to one of these little one’s,would be better off to have a mill stone tied to them and cast in to the deepest ocean “

    It is taken out of context.
    And keep in mind that Jesus frequently used parables as a means of illustrating profound, divine truths. Stories such as these are easily remembered, the characters bold, and the symbolism rich in meaning.

    (Matthew 13: 34-35 )
    All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds in parables, and He did not speak to them without a parable. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:
    “I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH IN PARABLES; I WILL UTTER THINGS HIDDEN SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.”

    Here is the context…(Mark 9, Matthew 18)

    Mark 9:

    34] But they were silent; for on the way they had discussed with one another who was the greatest.
    [35] And he sat down and called the twelve; and he said to them, “If any one would be first, he must be last of all and servant of all.”
    [36] And he took a child, and put him in the midst of them; and taking him in his arms, he said to them,
    [37] “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me.”
    [38] John said to him, “Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.”
    [39] But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me.
    [40] For he that is not against us is for us.
    [41] For truly, I say to you, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you bear the name of Christ, will by no means lose his reward.
    [42] “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.

    Matthew 18:

    Matthew 18New International Version (NIV)

    The Greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven

    1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
    2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.

    Causing to Stumble
    6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble!

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    I mean one guy here cited out a verse that exemplified hitting as good.. and now this verse my Mr. Hitman above.

    No, he said this one verse is often used to exemplify that the bible recommends beating.

    Eskimospy wrote:
    “Spare the rod and spoil the child!” That Bible passage is often quoted as a defense for beating kids. The rod is used by shepherds to lightly tap the sheep to guide them to a particular direction not to beat them to that direction. So the verse means that a child must be guided. It dose not mean a child must be beaten, only to be guided. I’m no fan of the beating of children, but I am a fan of guiding them.

    and now this verse my Mr. Hitman above.

    Hitman wrote:
    Jesus said ” whoever does harm to one of these little one’s,would be better off to have a mill stone tied to them and cast in to the deepest ocean “

    It is taken out of context.
    And keep in mind that Jesus frequently used parables as a means of illustrating profound, divine truths. Stories such as these are easily remembered, the characters bold, and the symbolism rich in meaning.

    (Matthew 13: 34-35 )
    All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds in parables, and He did not speak to them without a parable. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:
    “I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH IN PARABLES; I WILL UTTER THINGS HIDDEN SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.”

    Here is the context…(Mark 9, Matthew 18)

    Mark 9:

    34] But they were silent; for on the way they had discussed with one another who was the greatest.
    [35] And he sat down and called the twelve; and he said to them, “If any one would be first, he must be last of all and servant of all.”
    [36] And he took a child, and put him in the midst of them; and taking him in his arms, he said to them,
    [37] “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me.”
    [38] John said to him, “Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.”
    [39] But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me.
    [40] For he that is not against us is for us.
    [41] For truly, I say to you, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you bear the name of Christ, will by no means lose his reward.
    [42] “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.

    Matthew 18:

    Matthew 18New International Version (NIV)

    The Greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven

    1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
    2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.

    Causing to Stumble
    6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble!

    Now I understand. Thank you for clearing my doubt.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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