Interesting RE: Tom Leykis

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Interestingly, Tom Leykis happens to be very anti-Trump. Tonight I happened upon this tweet which said “Let the MGTOW dissing begin”.

Dissing MGTOW ? Why? @tomleykis joined our site last month and was very friendly & was enthusiastically welcomed toohttps://t.co/SusGr3K1bO
— MGTOW.COM (@MGTOW) August 22, 2017

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Apparently this was a topic of one of his streaming shows:

. . . to which one listener commented.

Yes he certainly did! Thanking MGTOW for the kind words etc. He was very friendly, joined last month to say hello.https://t.co/SusGr3K1bO
— MGTOW.COM (@MGTOW) August 22, 2017

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We have seen plenty of conflicting opinions on Trump, but The Manosphere, RedPill men, S~~~lord inc., Prison Planet, Breitbart, Mark Dice, Alternative media etc. are very clearly non-liberal, anti-Antifa, critical of Trudope etc…. and for all the RealTalk Leykis does, I find this rather surprising to know he was so staunchly anti-Trump and didn’t know this about him. Wouldn’t even have guessed he was so strong on the topic.

A couple of questions spring to mind:
Does this mean he would have voted for Hillary?
Is anyone else surprised by this?

Speaking personally now, I’m not terribly political at all, and rather uninterested in politics all of my life – until election 2016 when 92% of people also said they became more interested in a recent survey. IRL, I actively practice avoiding political/religious discussions as if they are a social disease, refusing to engage in any debate on the topics.

But there sure is a lot of Trump bashing going on, and sometimes for reasons they don’t even seem to explain. They just hate him and seem to love it.

If I’m going to dislike someone that much – especially someone I have never met, spoken to or interacted with – I need a damn good reason. I just can’t find a reason to dislike Trump that much. I would also be inclined to think the political leanings of MGTOW as a whole are torn, different, inconsistent and more of the opinion that “voting is just giving consent to being governed”. Less government, thankyouverymuch, and keep the state out of my goddam personal life is the general MGTOW sentiment.

The presidency is far bigger than any one man, anyway.
And for that reason, does it even matter who’s president? Did it ever?

Is your life any different this year based on it? Would it be different if Ron or Rand Paul were President? No. I would imagine you would still be going to work and going about your life as always as if completely unaffected by it. Right?

So I don’t see how it’s possible to like – or dislike – someone based on how they feel about who’s president. It seems completely silly to me.

Curious to know what your thoughts are.

Oh is this because he's very anti-Trump? Don't worry about that. MGTOW generally opine that voting is just giving consent to being governed.
— MGTOW.COM (@MGTOW) August 22, 2017

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

A leftist idiology is antithesis of GYOE. Big Govt. Statism and collectivism go hand in hand with Feminism and are the enemy of individual liberty. MGTOW is the essence of individual liberty. Leykis is either confused or a rank fraud. Just entertaining. How many times was he married?

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[ghostParticipant]

I was one of the earliest supporters of Trump. I supported him from even before he announced and was relentless in my support for him. I battled many people in my social and work circles and predicted he would triumph even when he was only around 4% in the polls. He made some serious gaffes near the end of his campaign and it lead me to ponder my decision to vote for him over the Libertarian candidate. I just had to vote for him based on my frustration with the state of our government. I NEVER once considered voting for Hillary. I cannot turn my back on my country like that.

I like Ron Paul and his son Rand but during the campaign I was fully on board the Trump train. I had and still have moments where I question him but I still believe he is the best chance we had in the election to help turn things around.

I think you’re right in that people can sometimes use politics and politicians as a vehicle for their own frustrations. I have been guilty of this.

As for Leykis, I doubt he would have voted Hillary. It’s more likely he would have gone Libertarian.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

I’d like to see if he actually said that he is “distancing himself” from MGTOW due to Trump support, or is that just a summation of the whole hour.

95% of the people I talk to about why they dislike Trump cannot actually give any factual evidence of actions he has taken that have made him dis-likable, and upon spewing the bulls~~~ they heard on the news, when asked if they actually did research or are they just believing everything they hear that they like, they dodge all questions regarding that.

Now Trump is not perfect (no-one is) but to support HILLARY? There is NO way you can rationalize that, not with her widely recorded history and everything that came up in the election.

But people will do anything to get a shot in at MGTOW so this is not surprising whatsoever. When I heard Tom supported Hillary, I was about to straight up disown him.

But then I had to remember that I was just taking his advice on women, and nothing else, so it doesn’t matter what the hell else he believes, I’m not here for that, and it does not concern me.

It doesn’t really matter if he says that MGTOW is alt-right trash he will never associate with again (I’m exaggerating), the stuff he’s said over the past years regarding relationships is still accurate.

He never was a MGTOW by direct self-identification, so him distancing himself from something he never said he was has much less weight. The only people it matters to are those who want to jump and say “SEE! Even TOM doesn’t like MGTOW- this proves something!”

Trump is president, and that is that.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Jackinov wrote:

I’d like to see if he actually said that he is “distancing himself” from MGTOW due to Trump support, or are people just saying he said that.

There’s an answer to that . . . .

I absolutely appreciate all from MGTOW who have been fans and supporters of our show. I also said that I can't go along with pro-Trumpers.
— Tom Leykis (@tomleykis) August 22, 2017

But he also knows . . .

MGTOW is as varying as any other demographic. If MGTOW is consistently strong on something , it's "keep the state out of our personal lives"
— MGTOW.COM (@MGTOW) August 22, 2017

Jackinov wrote:

95% of the people I talk to about why they dislike Trump cannot actually give any factual evidence of actions he has taken that have made him dis-likable

Same here!

Jackinov wrote:

But people will do anything to get a shot in at MGTOW so this is not surprising whatsoever.

Nodding.

PuniShredder wrote:

MGTOW is the essence of individual liberty.

That’s the most important point and it gets my vote.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Best way to end a friendship is to talk Politics or women. I’d rather find common ground between people than to impose my politics on them.

As a former “Leftie” many years ago I understand their viewpoint, but think the core assumptions are wrong.

As far as I know you don’t have to be a Conservative to be MGTOW. You just have to question all the assumptions of what a Man’s life is supposed to be and decide to do what you feel is right rather than trying to fit in with society’s expectations of you.

Works for me.

Our philosophy is greater than party politics.

It’s Freedom.

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 5]

OneLaneOnlyPls kindly sent me a recording of an interview with Tom. Tom encouraged him to speak over 20 minutes before OneLaneOnlyPls had to cut it short because he had to go to work. It was a terrific interview.
It’s no wonder so many of Tom’s listeners called back later to say the interview inspired them to action.
however during the interview Tom continually brought up weird and bizarre reasons why he strongly disliked Trump. It was inexplicable, annoying and totally out of context.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

ghost wrote:

I was one of the earliest supporters of Trump. I supported him from even before he announced and was relentless in my support for him. I battled many people in my social and work circles and predicted he would triumph even when he was only around 4% in the polls. He made some serious gaffes near the end of his campaign and it lead me to ponder my decision to vote for him over the Libertarian candidate. I just had to vote for him based on my frustration with the state of our government. I NEVER once considered voting for Hillary. I cannot turn my back on my country like that.

I like Ron Paul and his son Rand but during the campaign I was fully on board the Trump train. I had and still have moments where I question him but I still believe he is the best chance we had in the election to help turn things around.

I think you’re right in that people can sometimes use politics and politicians as a vehicle for their own frustrations. I have been guilty of this.

As for Leykis, I doubt he would have voted Hillary. It’s more likely he would have gone Libertarian.

Tom has stated that he identifies as a libertarian. He still has yet to come out with who he actually voted for and that’s fine. I supported 3rd party candidates wherever I could on the ticket and split the rest of it between the two major parties. Largely because I favor third parties and am registered “no party affiliation.” I tend to split the ticket if there’s no choices because I don’t like the idea of any one party getting too much control and power in this country. Be it on a local level, or on a national level. But Tom is very anti-Trump and will argue with his own listeners about the subject. In fact his FB page is often used to blast Trump. If you don’t like the guy, that’s fine. I didn’t vote for him. But the anti-Trump rhetoric is as played out and annoying as the anti-Obama rhetoric was.

[ghostParticipant]

IRuleMe wrote:

But the anti-Trump rhetoric is as played out and annoying as the anti-Obama rhetoric was.

I’m with you on that.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Greg Honda wrote:

Best way to end a friendship is to talk Politics or women.

No kidding.

Bill Maher once stood up in front of an audience and said “Oh please. It’s not anti-women just to talk about women. And we’re going to do it now”.

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For some reason, whenever you discuss actual female behavior, they want to cover you in honey and feed you to the insects. But there are NO LIMITS to the heinous s~~~ women can say about men.

“NEVER discuss politics or religion with anyone” is the best advice my father gave me early on. I wasn’t even 18 yet, and he said to keep them guessing. I didn’t ever give a s~~~ anyway, and it was years before I bothered to know the difference between democrat and republican. These words meant nothing to me.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 13]

MGTOW philosophy is completely independent of politics or presidents.

It’s about men going their own way since swallowing the red pill and realising the truth about female nature,

THAT we’re infinitely better off without one in our lives.

So using Trump as a reason to slight us seems like something else is going on here.

Some other agenda.

Tom knows EXACTLY how women are.

Who or what we vote for or don’t vote for (I don’t vote) is independent and has nothing to do with staying away from female nature.

I smell a rat…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW philosophy is completely independent of politics or presidents.

Well put.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW philosophy is completely independent of politics or presidents.

It’s about men going their own way since swallowing the red pill and realising the truth about female nature,

THAT we’re infinitely better off without one in our lives.

So using Trump as a reason to slight us seems like something else is going on here.

Some other agenda.

Tom knows EXACTLY how women are.

Who or what we vote for or don’t vote for (I don’t vote) is independent and has nothing to do with staying away from female nature.

I smell a rat…

At the end of the day, Tom is an entertainer, and he needs to cater to his listeners to keep the money coming. He’s not over the air anymore. Which means he’s not getting paid by corporations. He’s selling his time to advertisers and soliciting subscriptions. He’s an online personality with a limited audience from what he used to have. So it’s not to his benefit to alienate his listeners. Ultimately he knows this.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

Does this mean he would have voted for Hillary? YES.
Is anyone else surprised by this?

No, one word just like Massachusetts, California!

Keymaster wrote:

“voting is just giving consent to being governed”.

Here in B.C.F.C. voting is giving consent to being governed ILLEGALLY, CRIMINALLY, ARROGANTLY, RECKLESSLY!

Jackinov wrote:

I’d like to see if he actually said that he is “distancing himself” from MGTOW due to Trump support, or is that just a summation of the whole hour.

Keymaster wrote:

But there are NO LIMITS to the heinous s~~~ women can say about men.

That Sir, is exactly what gets under MY F~~~ING SKIN! I live in a double standard community where extraction and pillaging is done in the name of the law, corrupted beyond redemption and all hope! F~~~ING LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY DECEASED!

GEO POLITICAL NECROPHILIA! Nothing to see here folks, move along.

I VOTED FOR GIANT F~~~ING METEOR!

I’m a strong advocate of meteors, especially the little lead meteors that fly from thundersticks!

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW philosophy is completely independent of politics or presidents.

That’s bulls~~~! Anti MGTOW, anti freedom, pro female, pro government intrusion, and a true MGTOW is gonna support that?

They wouldn’t last long on this site and you know it!

A MGTOW choking down some Marxist liberal concept is enough to make me PUKE! I say sharpen the axe and start chopping them out just like the cancer they believe in!

Lekis is off my list of people to consider as wise men, if it believes like a fool then it is a FOOL!

[Anonymous 54]

Im here to discuss womens true nature.

If we have that in commen, fine.

If your politics are different than mine, fine.

I find debates over Atheism verses Christians, verses Muslims is secondary.

His is one Mans opinion.

[X11Spectator 4520]

I can’t believe people still fall into liberal or conservative party lines. It seems to be just nostalgia to me.

There s~~~ I support and don’t support on both sides. Admittedly more right leaning in last few years.

Never had a strong opinion either way. In fact I resent having to lump everything into left or right, as if life was that simple.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

So all the men going their own way outside the USA are irrelevant?

We don’t have a say in who is your president, and most of us couldn’t care less.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

I think Old Bill pointed out that he was probably just around to drum up interest in his online shows.

If Hillary would have won, it would have sucked but we would have toughed it out and there would be no bitching about everything under the sun like what is going on now.

If this is true about Leykis, it’s not surprising. My father told me a very long time ago to only trust God.

I don’t go out of my way to watch movies, buy CDs, go to concerts, shows, etc to not make people rich who ultimately only care about their bottom line.

He can go suck 20 dicks for all I care. If it moves like a rat…

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Chase Pesos wrote:

I think Old Bill pointed out that he was probably just around to drum up interest in his online shows.

That could be. We had another profile created here – within days of Leykis – by someone who put a link to his show in their profile description and nothing else. It was obviously not someone genuinely interested in participating. We deleted that member, and they didn’t bother to contact or ask why.

I think they were emailed but there was no response.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I tend to lean more right the past several years, but I find extremely unpalatable tendencies on both sides.

I was opposed to that so-called “free trade” BS reading about how food like watermelons were so expensive in Japan, yet Japan was hurting us so bad with automobiles. I thought that the Republicans were assholes and essentially made it seem like the US was the only country in the world afraid of a trade war.

I was disgusted by the globalist crap of both Bush Sr and Clinton, so I voted for Perot. And we did hear the sucking sound of American jobs leaving, just like Perot said. I leaned right during Clinton, seeing as how they were boosting China with their globalist s~~~.

I leaned left again with GWB, that jackass and his police-state agenda and so-called “Patriot Act”.

I saw Obama for the left-wing jackass that he was, and was opposed to him. And yet he still helped advance the police-state agenda.

I’m pretty close to thinking that draining the swamp is not good enough. This country probably needs a near-genocidal civil war in which the entire elite ruling class is killed to a person, including all their supporters and heirs. Destroy 95% of the press. Bulldoze over Silicon Valley and companies like Google and Facebook, and set fire to the rubble so all the globalist douchebags burn alive.

We need a little creative destruction I think, and I don’t think much more than 50 or 60 million people need to die. Party-time, Rwanda-style.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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