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It’s important to point out every time this comes up, that churches do not practice Christianity. They do not have any moral authority whatsoever.
They practice a new religion, the worship of the female as a deity instead. Those clergy are going to be the first pulled into hell, with their female followers most likely right behind them.
Hehe, I’m laughing at myself because this is the part where I say “Not All Churches Are Like That!”
The truth is that a church is a group of people, and whenever an influential part of that group becomes gynocentric, the rest will suffer. However, there are still good churches out there, and they are worth finding. The good news is that you don’t have to risk getting put through any legal meat grinder on your quest to find the right church. It’s a lot easier than finding “the right woman” in that regard. Just figured I’d make my position clear.
Fortunately, there are still a number of Christian leaders who do not worship woman. Even their advice must be taken carefully, though, as they have a tendency to stray from true Christian doctrine when it comes to the subject of women and marriage. Interesting how despite so many denominational differences, one thing they all seem to agree on is that “men should get married”.
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
Author hits the nail on the head pretty well. Just reminds me of this skank on a dating website…in her profile she says…
I miss being in a relationship; the one night stands and weekend hookups are just not my style anymore.
Same profile, a few sentences later…
Please: word of advice gentleman: Let’s not forget tradition and chivalry.
She wants tradition and chivalry from men still? That’s nice…I’d like a traditional woman…not one who admits to being a whore in her profile but wants to hop off the carousel and settle down now that she’s ready. These women just don’t get it. They want to rewrite the traditional rules women of past generations lived by and demand men still live by the traditional male rules, exactly how the author describes. No f~~~ing thanks skanks…enjoy the carousel while it lasts, I’ll have nothing to do with you afterwards.
Oh I see. All the other guys got to pump and dump but I dont. I care why?
But don’t you understand, Jan? She made a few mistakes early on when she was “young and naive” (more like young and horny), but all that is behind her. Now all she wants is a good man to be “her companion” (her ATM). Everyone deserves second chances, right? Her days of chasing Chad are over now. Forever. Unless he’s back in town while you’re out of town…
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
I would never actually tell anyone from my church that I’m MGTOW unless they were displaying some serious red-pill knowledge and I trusted them. I would be terrified if word got out about my MGTOW status. The leaders’ wives would probably try to shame me into submission.
If that’s the case, then clearly it’s the wrong church for you, and just plain wrong in general. Why offer your tacit approval for that bulls~~~ with your presence?
I’ve thought about that. The truth is that many of the leaders’ wives would accept it with minimal discussion, but there would be those few female leaders and leaders’ wives who would try to bother me about it. Sorry if that sounds like I’m changing my story. I wrote the earlier post because I didn’t feel like typing a lengthy explanation at that time.
In the meanwhile, there are several solid men I know from this church (one of whom I suspect is a MGTOW). Despite the unwholesome female influence, I must say that some of the coolest guys I know go to my church, and since I can usually hang out with them almost exclusively, there is no reason for me not to stop attending. The gynocentrism is mainly centered around the youth group, as the older men in adult ministry will have none of it.
Also, I have a unique opportunity to help be a mentor to younger men in church. Eventually, I will likely start discipling someone and I will be able to start dropping red pills. Even now, I have made some of my positions clear in regards to marriage. My youth pastor seems to think NAWALT (he is still married, and his wife is one of the nice ones), but he agreed with me that it was a good thing. He especially agreed with me about the condition of many women in the church today.
The main problem is that many Christians have a negative view of MGTOW, and I learned early on in life that one must be extremely careful in sharing controversial opinions with women in authority.
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
But don’t you understand, Jan? She made a few mistakes early on when she was “young and naive” (more like young and horny), but all that is behind her. Now all she wants is a good man to be “her companion” (her ATM). Everyone deserves second chances, right? Her days of chasing Chad are over now. Forever. Unless he’s back in town while you’re out of town…
Exactly. Whores don’t just wake up one day and stop being whores. They put the good girl show on long enough to find an idiot blue piller to marry and pop some babies out when their biological clock is ticking too hard to resist, knowing all the while they can divorce and asset rape him any time they want to and hop right back on the carousel for as long as the wall will allow them too…at which point they’ll probably start looking for another nice wallet, I mean nice guy.
Maybe I’d pump and dump if she was hot and I had to put very little effort into it, but I’d never even consider a relationship with someone like that.
Amen, Beer! Very well put.
Asset rape… Nice phrase. Very descriptive. Honestly, I would never even pump and dump a girl, let alone a “reformed” slut. I just don’t think it would be worth the risk. Between the risk of STDs, “oops” pregnancies, and crazy coming out to play after you go no contact, it just doesn’t sound very appealing. Come to think of it, very few women actually sound appealing…
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
Great article.
Not too many people know this but in the old days (1920s-1960s) if you went to church and you were a single man with no wife, you were ridiculed and accused of being a “sodomite” (Gay).
So much for the good ol days.
Scott Hahn relates a great story about how, in Presbyterian Minister College (or whatever it’s called) he and a room mate were studying the NT and came to the conclusion that, since a single man worries about God where a married man worries about his family, being single as ministers was the better way to go. Scott then copped holy hell from the guy’s girlfriend when she found out about their decision. He also mentions the reality (in at least some churches) that you may get ordained but you won’t get a posting unless you are married, because the last thing a local church needs is a horny single minister on the prowl. And since the ministers are invariably married, the congregation see that as the norm and apply the usual shaming and social pressure for everyone to follow suit.
While I am sure there have been many fine Christian women in history – dozens of them – women are chameleons and will play up the, “my faith is so important to me!” angle if they think that’s what a man wants to hear. I remember having a blind date years ago with a girl whom I though was religious but who openly admitted she only went to church because she wanted to make friends. Herd mentality.
An entire herd of chameleons… there’s a frightening thought. You’d have no idea what you were really ending up with.
I’m Catholic and laughed my ass off at this in the comments
I’m Catholic, and while my wife doesn’t cheat, she is the meanest women this side of Andrea Dworkin. I wish she would cheat, so I could get rid of her. The church doesn’t allow for divorce unless adultery happens, but hey, my wife is so big, it’s just not likely she could find someone so desperate to try her on for size, and brother, has she got a lot of size!
Would I get married again? Gee. let me think.
Uh, NO!
True. That’s one reason why men are careful about dating in church. The good news is that you often get to watch the girls and how they act for awhile. That’s how I ended up deciding that there were no girls in my youth group who were worth pursuing.
Also, it’s like what Henry Higgins said in “My Fair Lady”: “In a line that never ends come an army of her friends, come to jabber and to chatter and to tell her what the matter is with you!”
Honestly, I have to say that this is what I would be most concerned with if I ever tried dating in the church. Too much of a hassle.Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
Side issue: We had a support group for recently divorced in our church led by a woman. It’s not affiliated with the church – I’m guessing it was a third party. I was itching to go there just so I could document the insanity and write a report here. But I backed out the last minute, because I was afraid I’d be the only man there and I didn’t think I could keep my mouth shut and my face straight.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Dude. I would totally have gone there if I were divorced. Sounds like it would have been a great story for the forums!
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
“Everywhere my husband and I go we meet lovely Christian women, beautifully dressed, deeply spiritual, thoroughly feminine–and single. They long for marriage and children. But what is it with the men? Are they blind to feminine pulchritude, deaf to God’s call, numb to natural desire? . . . Where are the holy men of God willing to shoulder the full responsibility of manhood, to take the risks and make the sacrifices of courting and winning a wife, marrying her and fathering children in obedience to the command to be fruitful? While the Church has been blessed by men willing to remain single for the sake of the Kingdom (and I do not regard lightly such men who are seriously called), isn’t it obvious that God calls most men to marriage? By not marrying, those whom He calls are disobeying Him, and thus are denying the women He meant for them to marry the privileges of being wife and mother.”
She uses the same tactics as the others.
Shifting blame (“denying the women ….the privileges of being wife and mother”)
Shaming tactics (“Man up”)
Fear (“By not marrying, those whom He calls are disobeying Him”)The same crap that we see on morning news shows and even some feminists.
So, if these “Christian women, beautifully dressed, deeply spiritual, thoroughly feminine–and single” are so plentiful and desirable, that means there is more supply than demand.
But if “good Christian men” are in such high demand, why would they have to be “willing …. to take the risks and make the sacrifices of courting and winning a wife” ? It is the “Good Christian men” who are in short supply and high demand here !
In any market, their value under these conditions is very high. The prices are going up, not down.
But don’t dare suggest the women take any risks or make sacrifices. Oh no, we can’t have none of that talk.
Where have all the “good Christian men gone” ?
Away from you and to safety !
“Good Christian men” can read a contract and smell a rotten deal just as good as the rest of us.
As for me, I am an agnostic. Nonsense like this made me never want to return. But please keep it up, you ladies of the church are promoting MGTOW just as well as your feminist sisters !
Frank V.
Thanks to the OP, it really reads like a “Christian MGTOW Manifesto”
The more I think about this, nicer it is to see my Christian MGTOW brothers standing up for themselves.
Come on over brothers ! For all the talk the feminists of being inclusive, the real deal is here. I’m an agnostic, but Christian MGTOWs welcomed me just as much as the rest did. The non-Christians will welcome you too.
Welcome to the party !
Frank V.
It’s important to point out every time this comes up, that churches do not practice Christianity. They do not have any moral authority whatsoever.
No church has moral authority. A church is nothing but a building with a couple of sticks on top. I can put two sticks on the roof of my house. Does that give me moral authority?
“Everywhere my husband and I go we meet lovely Christian women, beautifully dressed, deeply spiritual, thoroughly feminine–and single. They long for marriage and children. But what is it with the men?”
If the fish aren’t taking the bait any more, only an idiot, or a woman, would blame the fish instead of the bait.
And yet these “good christian women” proclaim themselves and aspire to be “fishers of men”?
Not even close. If they were truly Christian they would be there to get closer to God, not closer to a man’s resources. They treat their religion as nothing more than yet another feminine all access pass into a man’s bank account. They think that just because they show up at church and pay lip service to being “good christian women” they are somehow entitled to a man to pay for everything.
They are “fishers of wallets” and good Christian Men know it. AWALT.
Jesus was a MGHOW.
“Everywhere my husband and I go we meet lovely Christian women, beautifully dressed, deeply spiritual, thoroughly feminine–and single. They long for marriage and children. But what is it with the men?”
If the fish aren’t taking the bait any more, only an idiot, or a woman, would blame the fish instead of the bait.
And yet these “good christian women” proclaim themselves and aspire to be “fishers of men”?
Not even close. If they were truly Christian they would be there to get closer to God, not closer to a man’s resources. They treat their religion as nothing more than yet another feminine all access pass into a man’s bank account. They think that just because they show up at church and pay lip service to being “good christian women” they are somehow entitled to a man to pay for everything.
They are “fishers of wallets” and good Christian Men know it. AWALT.
Jesus was a MGHOW.
And that, gentlemen, is why the marriage rates are declining in the church. Hypergamy, lack of focus on God, and excessive expectations have driven men away.
Also, I absolutely love this quote. It’s so perfect: “Yes, we are the ones that supposedly don’t accept you because you are morbidly obese. Cry me a river.”
Also, it doesn’t help when pastors joke about things like “your wife is always right”, and how dumb husbands are. To be fair, a pastor should call out both sexes equally in their mistakes. For example, withholding sex is a common marriage problem not regularly addressed. Also, modesty among the younger women can be a real issue. Whenever I see a girl wearing clothing that shows off her whatever, my brain goes where most dudes’ brains go, but then I realize: She’s just after attention. That kills any attraction I might have had for her.
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
Having grown up in church, and within the last 3-4 years, enduring an emotionally draining fight with a completely blue pill, emasculated, effeminate group of church leaders, this article was one of the most refreshing things I have read in years, within the context of the writer being a professing Christian. Damn, I could hear those words thundering from the rooftop. And I can add that someone would get death threats if they were to communicate this article, verbatim, in the Blue Pill Church of the 21st Century.
Thanks for sharing this. I need to share it with some good brother who are getting f~~~ed over by their “Christian wives” as I write. And getting shamed by these s~~~ ass sissy charlatans who pretend to be men of God in their vagina pulpits. Now I’m getting p~~~ed so I’ll stop. Great article and thanks again for sharing. And all of the responses to this post are great and appreciated.
“Everywhere my husband and I go we meet lovely Christian women, beautifully dressed, deeply spiritual, thoroughly feminine–and single. They long for marriage and children. But what is it with the men?”
If the fish aren’t taking the bait any more, only an idiot, or a woman, would blame the fish instead of the bait.
Men need marriage like a fish needs a hook it it’s mouth.
Frank V.
If the fish aren’t taking the bait any more, only an idiot, or a woman, would blame the fish instead of the bait.
And yet these “good christian women” proclaim themselves and aspire to be “fishers of men”?
Not even close. If they were truly Christian they would be there to get closer to God, not closer to a man’s resources. They treat their religion as nothing more than yet another feminine all access pass into a man’s bank account. They think that just because they show up at church and pay lip service to being “good christian women” they are somehow entitled to a man to pay for everything.
They are “fishers of wallets” and good Christian Men know it. AWALT.
Jesus was a MGHOW.
Frame this brothers. Sidecar dropping knowledge…thank you for this
This article was my first bookmark since I switched browsers. It serves well as a lessons learned for my dead marriage. I may have have to show it to her someday. I’m not leaving, I’m recognizing that she exonerated herself from the marriage a long time ago.
Thanks for the great post.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
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