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It is not a coin, where you are either heads or tails. It is a spectrum, and each man is on a different place on it. I accept that, and I see men on a different places on the spectrum than me in both directions. I see men who are stuck on a spot on the spectrum where I am glad I have moved past as well. I hope they find their way past it, but I don’t for one second think myself better than them, or condescend to them.
What bothers me is the need to virtue signal. To try to place all other men here as women haters, in some sort of One good man play.
We get it. The need to feel superior, to feel better than the rest is very tantalizing, and hard to resist. But Quite frankly it is just so disappointing, and unfair to the men who need this to be a place where they can work through their pain.
No, I have to defend myself here, you are looking for a way to feel offended that was not intended. My point about “women haters” wasn’t even addressed to people on this forum, it was addressed to outsiders, lurkers, women who might read these forums that might consider us simply haters. If you take the time to read my comment, you will find it says :- ” if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.”, the important word being “seen”, nowhere does it say that we “are” women haters.
How are we better than women if we take offense where it was not intended? Apologies earn respect.It is not a coin, where you are either heads or tails. It is a spectrum, and each man is on a different place on it. I accept that, and I see men on a different places on the spectrum than me in both directions. I see men who are stuck on a spot on the spectrum where I am glad I have moved past as well. I hope they find their way past it, but I don’t for one second think myself better than them, or condescend to them.
What bothers me is the need to virtue signal. To try to place all other men here as women haters, in some sort of One good man play.
We get it. The need to feel superior, to feel better than the rest is very tantalizing, and hard to resist. But Quite frankly it is just so disappointing, and unfair to the men who need this to be a place where they can work through their pain.
No, I have to defend myself here, you are looking for a way to feel offended that was not intended. My point about “women haters” wasn’t even addressed to people on this forum, it was addressed to outsiders, lurkers, women who might read these forums that might consider us simply haters. If you take the time to read my comment, you will find it says :- ” if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.”, the important word being “seen”, nowhere does it say that we “are” women haters.
How are we better than women if we take offense where it was not intended? Apologies earn respect.I think you owe us an apology actually.
You specifically framed it not only to imply that you felt there was too much women hating, and you wanted to stand out by praising women, but you pre-loaded the responses by stating that most of us wouldn’t like it.
Playing the victim and being disingenuous are both very negative feminine qualities. Shall I praise them as well?
I also never mentioned you specifically, or that my observations on the topic were solely directed at you, and I standby everything I said. So if you are waiting for an apology, don’t hold your breath.
It is not a coin, where you are either heads or tails. It is a spectrum, and each man is on a different place on it. I accept that, and I see men on a different places on the spectrum than me in both directions. I see men who are stuck on a spot on the spectrum where I am glad I have moved past as well. I hope they find their way past it, but I don’t for one second think myself better than them, or condescend to them.
What bothers me is the need to virtue signal. To try to place all other men here as women haters, in some sort of One good man play.
We get it. The need to feel superior, to feel better than the rest is very tantalizing, and hard to resist. But Quite frankly it is just so disappointing, and unfair to the men who need this to be a place where they can work through their pain.
No, I have to defend myself here, you are looking for a way to feel offended that was not intended. My point about “women haters” wasn’t even addressed to people on this forum, it was addressed to outsiders, lurkers, women who might read these forums that might consider us simply haters. If you take the time to read my comment, you will find it says :- ” if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.”, the important word being “seen”, nowhere does it say that we “are” women haters.
How are we better than women if we take offense where it was not intended? Apologies earn respect.I think you owe us an apology actually.
You specifically framed it not only to imply that you felt there was too much women hating, and you wanted to stand out by praising women, but you pre-loaded the responses by stating that most of us wouldn’t like it.
Playing the victim and being disingenuous are both very negative feminine qualities. Shall I praise them as well?
Whilst it is a frequent and forgivable occurrence of the written word being misinterpreted, there is never an excuse for claiming to know anothers motive, what is actually going on in somebodies mind.
It is not a coin, where you are either heads or tails. It is a spectrum, and each man is on a different place on it. I accept that, and I see men on a different places on the spectrum than me in both directions. I see men who are stuck on a spot on the spectrum where I am glad I have moved past as well. I hope they find their way past it, but I don’t for one second think myself better than them, or condescend to them.
What bothers me is the need to virtue signal. To try to place all other men here as women haters, in some sort of One good man play.
We get it. The need to feel superior, to feel better than the rest is very tantalizing, and hard to resist. But Quite frankly it is just so disappointing, and unfair to the men who need this to be a place where they can work through their pain.
No, I have to defend myself here, you are looking for a way to feel offended that was not intended. My point about “women haters” wasn’t even addressed to people on this forum, it was addressed to outsiders, lurkers, women who might read these forums that might consider us simply haters. If you take the time to read my comment, you will find it says :- ” if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.”, the important word being “seen”, nowhere does it say that we “are” women haters.
How are we better than women if we take offense where it was not intended? Apologies earn respect.I think you owe us an apology actually.
You specifically framed it not only to imply that you felt there was too much women hating, and you wanted to stand out by praising women, but you pre-loaded the responses by stating that most of us wouldn’t like it.
Playing the victim and being disingenuous are both very negative feminine qualities. Shall I praise them as well?
Whilst it is a frequent and forgivable occurrence of the written word being misinterpreted, there is never an excuse for claiming to know anothers motive, what is actually going on in somebodies mind.
Then how exactly were you able to determine we were being perceived as women haters, and that posters here would not like what you were about to say.
Don’t be a disingenuous f~~~.
You are a good writer, and your words were pretty clear.AND AGAIN, I was not talking solely to YOU. Not everything is about you. There was an entire flow to the conversation, and this has not been the only “too much women hating” type of topic recently.
IF you want to disagree with what I wrote, do so, but don’t play this stupid “holier than thou” game with me.
It’s Kicking Off!!
It's Time to get Wise
It’s Kicking Off!!
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No, I’m going my own way, it’s why I don’t get on with women, I wouldn’t have expected blokes to be like this on a site like this.
No offence intended, just trying to inject a little humour into what was looking like a tense situation.
If I failed, then My Bad.
It's Time to get Wise
No offence intended, just trying to inject a little humour into what was looking like a tense situation.
If I failed, then My Bad.
I thought it was funny as s~~~, if that counts. lol
Should I still be waiting for some kind of refutation to my points, or is just the emotional posturing that is going to stand?
No offence intended, just trying to inject a little humour into what was looking like a tense situation.
If I failed, then My Bad.
I thought it was funny as s~~~, if that counts. lol
If you liked that check this:
It's Time to get Wise
No offence intended, just trying to inject a little humour into what was looking like a tense situation.
If I failed, then My Bad.
Goodness Greg, I wasn’t replying to what you posted in that way, I was just replying that I have no interest in these games where people deliberately pick through words until they find the worst possible interpretation and then insist that they know thats what you meant like they can read your mind or something.
Most blokes I get on with with would rather accept your explanation than reject it in order to take offense.
Guess its just an internet thing as I really find men act this way in the real world.i think the point is that women don’t need to be praised,
for doing the right thing.
that’s what should be the case.
the exceptions are SO glaring that we feel they should be praised,
when the women doing the right thing should be the norm.hey RR,
don’t sweat it bro.
things get a little heated when we talk about c~~~s here.
yes a few do the right thing,
enough don’t, to make us walk away..
..take all this in stride and plz stay .
we need all the good men we can,
unlike the c~~~’s who don’t know what a good man is.No offence intended, just trying to inject a little humour into what was looking like a tense situation.
If I failed, then My Bad.
Goodness Greg, I wasn’t replying to what you posted in that way, I was just replying that I have no interest in these games where people deliberately pick through words until they find the worst possible interpretation and then insist that they know thats what you meant like they can read your mind or something.
Most blokes I get on with with would rather accept your explanation than reject it in order to take offense.
Guess its just an internet thing as I really find men act this way in the real world.Classic projection. That is exactly what you have done.
Ok, so you don’t have any non emotional, non victim posturing refutations for my post and its points. Got it. Good day to you.
Enjoying the BBC comedy!
here.
3 min of truly f~~~in funny ass s~~~.this guy is not a comedian,
he’s a Russian politician.
hahhaha!!!
i loved this clip..hey RR,
don’t sweat it bro.
things get a little heated when we talk about c~~~s here.
yes a few do the right thing,
enough don’t, to make us walk away..
..take all this in stride and plz stay .
we need all the good men we can,
unlike the c~~~’s who don’t know what a good man is.Sometimes men need to rise up and clear the living room furniture away, but quite frankly I never felt that here. I made my points and instead of disagreeing with them he wanted to play games of semantics and emotions. He wanted to feign personal injury etc. Acting as if he never had anything to do with “too much women hating, I am going to rise above and praise them!” type of sentiment.
I don’t mind disagreements, but I really dislike disingenuousness and victim posturing. All simply to avoid articulating a counter viewpoint, or to discredit a viewpoint of disagreement.
Goodness Greg, I wasn’t replying to what you posted in that way,
No worries man.
Seems I was making a big mistake 🙂
It's Time to get Wise
Goodness Greg, I wasn’t replying to what you posted in that way,
No worries man.
Seems I was making a big mistake
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OMFG!
British short skit humor is so much better than what we Yanks get, with a few exceptions. SNL would have milked that for 15 minutes. They would have called it “Sad Harry”and then turned it into a weekly skit and then a 90 minute movie. The same premise over and over some flaw in his plan to kill himself, but someone instead of trying to save him, help him finish the job.
Although I heard a funny sort of MGTOW line in a movie today. At hearing his GF is pregnant, man shouts out ” I want to marry you, if it is a boy!” Of course it was supposed to be funny because of what a jerk he is, and everyone looks disgusted. But I laughed my ass off…
OMFG!
British short skit humor is so much better than what we Yanks get, with a few exceptions. SNL would have milked that for 15 minutes, and then turned it into a weekly skit and then a 90 minute movie.
It used to be good, but not much worth watching now. Too many people get offended. I’ve re-discovered Armstrong and Miller so am binginge watching on youTube.
With all the s~~~ we have to put up with we need a laugh every now and then
I’ll stop now:
Best not to give a s~~~:
It's Time to get Wise
“Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.”
Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
So some women did their job and weren’t total c~~~s. Yay! Who gives a f~~~.
In my experience, and its not even close, men are way more compassionate than women. And women far more dangerous and harmful than men. Just my experience but I am 53 years old, married (and divorced 3 times) with older sisters. In my experience women can ACT kind, nice (pick any word) but there are not genuinely that way. There are only that way when it benefits them.
Didn’t you mention in one of your posts on this thread that one of the nurses took you home and f~~~ed you and was cheating on her boyfriend to do so? So their being nice to you it makes them nice? That’s a f~~~ed up arguement. If you are trying to say there are some truly kind women out there you haven’t made your point.
"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
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