In praise of (some) women.

[Repulsive RalfParticipant 356]

This wont be liked by all, but I do think the movement could be discredited if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.
I love women, just not the modern selfish, lefty, feminist and princess types, which unfortunately seems to be the majority of them.
I would rather this movement turn women back into the more desirable mates they used to be.
So I just had a rather frightening weekend being taken for a ride in an ambulance and spending the night courtesy of The National Health Service. The women who looked after me were kind, lovely, held my hand when I thought my time was up, hard working, and they work for very low wages. True, they might possibly be ogres when they are at home, but credit where it is due.

[MACHOParticipant]

Great sharing!

I think the site is doing a fine job at calling things for what they are.

A lot of men are angry and it shows in their posts and they have the right to vent for being treated the way they have been. Often the cure is more painful than the disease!
I too was treated well in hospitals where they get paid to be nice just like bartenders are.

But ..I once worked in a hospital in my younger days as an awake overnight to help the nurses lift heavy patients, well.. I saw nasty behavior right there and I had to quit because they hated me and resented the fact that I only had to work a few times during the night while they worked their ass off.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Repulsive RalfParticipant 356]

I am biased of course having spent 3 months as a patient back in the day in a London teaching hospital where the nurses went out of their way to be nice to me. They tried to take me out with them to the pictures, one of them would take me back to the nurses home to entertain me in her room, (though I mus admit she was being unfaithful to her boyfriend), once I was discharged I was invited to nurses parties.
I had a positive image of them even away from their paid jobs, apart from their tendency to suck on dope, I think it takes a certain form of humility to do what they do that your modern lefty feminist wouldn’t do.
One nurse had spent about half an hour pulling a pair of NHS pajama bottoms over my leg plaster. The very next morning I had to ask her to change them again as I explained I had had one of those dreams men have. She must have been impressed by the huge stiff patch as I ended up going out with her as well once I was discharged.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.

Who cares “how you are seen”?

Your display name is “Repulsive Ralph” because you thought women SEE you that way.
But ARE you “repulsive”? Not remotely.

Same thing. First step is not giving a s~~~ how you are SEEN or perceived by others. Their projection or interpretation is totally irrelevant. Place zero importance on it. It holds no weight and has no value.

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

just a bunch of women haters.

It’s also silly, unrealistic and IMPOSSIBLE to “hate women” as an entire sex – just like it’s silly, unrealistic and impossible to LOVE them all. That shuts them up on the spot.

Force them to realize if the have any questions about what’s in your heart, they can ASK. Until then, nobody can “tell you about you” , and you will not explain or apologize for something they IMAGINE in their dense skulls.

You know the difference between “personality” and “character”?
( Perception vs. reality )

Personality is what is SEEN by others, and it washes off like makeup. Women are obsessed with it. They are so obsessed with it, they are more preoccupied with how women are “seen” as opposed to how they actually ARE. They are also more often preoccupied with how they see something, as opposed to how it actually IS.

That’s where the “you hate women” accusation comes from.
It’s a lame deflection like any other.

Turn on your TV and you will see “personalities”, famous “personalities” and split “personalities”, and this is how they want to be perceived. But CHARACTER is what you have when you turn your television off.

When was the last time a woman gave a single f~~~ about – or wanted to know – anything about your TRUE CHARACTER and values??

She’s too preoccupied with her own perceptions.

If I observe “the moon has no atmosphere”…..
does that mean I “hate” the moon?

… or is that the way the moon actually IS.

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

but credit where it is due.

The majority of voting women surprised the hell out of everyone by voting for Trump. Credit where credit is due. Goddam right.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

I would rather this movement turn women back into the more desirable mates they used to be.

Now that would sure enough be quite wishful thinking, wouldn’t you agree, pal…?

Even though I do see yer point.

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

but credit where it is due.

True enough there.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[MACHOParticipant]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

I am biased of course having spent 3 months as a patient back in the day in a London teaching hospital

There you go! you said it yourself sir! you are biased. It is like saying how sweet and nice women are when they are waitresses.

It is all about Money $$$!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 13]

A great post.

We’re angry, yes. I have a serious problem with a world that jailed me for a day and put a criminal trial over my head for SIX agonising months.

Do I hate them? No.

Do I trust them? NO!

They are CHAMELEONS.

[Anonymous 3]

I don’t think you understand what MGTOW is Ralph.

We aren’t a movement. We make no allusions or attempts to control the behavior of other people. We believe in freedom, as long as you’re not harming anybody, people can all live life the way they want to do so.

Women have chose to live as entitled brats in the West. That is their prerogative. Society has decided to punish men at all costs and at all times in any relationship with females. Again, that is their choice.

We concentrate on ourselves, our own happiness, our freedom, our sovereignty. We will not attempt to nor do we even believe we can change anyone else.

Also this idea of “crediting” women for not being awful in your face, that shows you how low women gave gone today. We don’t even credit each other, other men, for not being toxic wastes of space. We don’t run onto feminist boards to praise poor hardworking men, and say “give credit to men where credit is due” even though women need to hear that more, considering they’re the ones attacking men, whereas men as a whole, and certainly MGTOW, do not do the same.

We want to be free of women, we don’t care what they do, whether they should be praised or not, etc.

[Anonymous 0]

Well put Phoenix. 100 stars

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

We want to be free of women, we don’t care what they do, whether they should be praised or not, etc.

Yep….yep.

That’s about the size of it.

[Repulsive RalfParticipant 356]

MACHO wrote:

There you go! you said it yourself sir! you are biased. It is like saying how sweet and nice women are when they are waitresses.

It is all about Money $$$!

Nah, I had no money, I lived in a bedsit, but I did have a big nob!

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

I see more hate in the comments section of Huffpo and Salon (directed at men), than I ever see here, and it is not even close.

[Anonymous 1]

I know some great women, if the lurkers think that we are against ALL women then they are mistaken.

Is it to blame that men want a fair system of laws and LTRs? To me it is not, we just want the roles to be filled like it was meant to be, females should be females and males should be males. Men are not to be taken advantage off, lied to, used as tissues, laughed at, as the same goes for women, because when you treat people like s~~~, they will hit back.

The games women have created have forced a lot of men to live by themselves, isn’t this enough to let them understand we had enough, and that something has to be re-thinked in order to bring some sense in this f~~~ed up society?

Anyway I do not see us as the instrument that can change things, in fact we are not activists, MRA are. We are just men who saw how things work, and because the situation is what it is, we decide to create our own ways, and live in peace.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

We aren’t a movement. We make no allusions or attempts to control the behavior of other people. We believe in freedom, as long as you’re not harming anybody, people can all live life the way they want to do so.

THANK YOU.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[WallyParticipant]

Most MGTOW don’t hate women, most wish them no ill will. I love my mother and sister as I am sure most MGTOW do, care about my female co-workers, most who are caring people like you described the women women who took care of you, hope the best for all of them. But I don’t want them entering my home and I don’t want to ever be in a relationship with a woman where if she gets angry with me she can use the state as a weapon against me.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[GrumpyParticipant]

I totally agree with awarding accolades to those who earn them.
However I never “give credit” to anyone, regardless of gender, who rests on the laurels of others.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

This wont be liked by all, but I do think the movement could be discredited if we are seen as just a bunch of women haters.

When it comes to women haters it does not matter how the f~~~ women or manginas view us as. See women will always view mgtow as hating women simply because mgtow does not buy into the marriage plan and plans instead to live for ourselves. Therefore mgtow because they refuse to marry women are seen as women haters because they let women stew in their misery without providing them a house, half our assets and kids.

So even if mgtow had only woman lovers in it we will still be seen a women haters and even the f~~~ing mra’s are seen as hating women and all they want is reform to divorce court.

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

I would rather this movement turn women back into the more desirable mates they used to be.

Women will never change only they way they act out will. Women will still be the same c~~~s as they are today deep down only that they will not be able to express it without getting the s~~~ kicked in by their husbands or the police.

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

So I just had a rather frightening weekend being taken for a ride in an ambulance and spending the night courtesy of The National Health Service. The women who looked after me were kind, lovely, held my hand when I thought my time was up, hard working, and they work for very low wages. True, they might possibly be ogres when they are at home, but credit where it is due.

Women do that because they make money doing it not that they like or enjoy it and they have to treat your ass good there or the place gets bad reviews and they potentially get fired.

Either way these women do not love you but they love the promotions they will get at the end of the month or year from treating you kindly.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Anonymous wrote:

A great post.

We’re angry, yes. I have a serious problem with a world that jailed me for a day and put a criminal trial over my head for SIX agonising months.

Do I hate them? No.

Do I trust them? NO!

They are CHAMELEONS.

I don’t hate women at all. In fact I am perfectly capable of loving them to the point that I devote my entire life to their happiness at the expense of mine.

Unfortunately for me, when I indulged in this behaviour previously, I found myself at a massive disadvantage in the relationship dynamics. I failed to realise that women and men value different things in the relationship bargain.

As a man I don’t care how cool she is, or how much money she’s got. As long as she’s affectionate, healthy, good humored and loyal I’m happy. However, this doesn’t cut both ways. My affection, good humour and loyalty mean nothing if I can’t provide, protect and entertain her. She will soon find someone else that can.

I was brought up to beleive that Love conquers all. It doesn’t. It’s Disney BS.

The illusion of love lasts as long as you can keep ticking all the required boxes. And even if you manage to maintain your game, there’s still a chance a handsome and dangerous stranger will turn her head when you’re not looking.

You can never be sure, and if it does happen you won’t see it comming.

One thing you can be sure of is this:

When poverty knocks on the door, Love flies out the window,

It's Time to get Wise

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

Aren’t women praised enough? The entire system, the mainstream praises women constantly. They certainly don’t need our voices in the deafening choir.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

It is not a coin, where you are either heads or tails. It is a spectrum, and each man is on different place on it. I accept that, and I see men on a different spots on the spectrum than me, in both directions. I see men who are stuck on a spot on the spectrum where I am glad I have moved past. I hope they find their way past it, but I don’t for one second think myself better than them, or condescend to them.
I also see men who are on the spot where I want to get to, and it makes me hopeful and I learn from them as they share.

What bothers me is the need to virtue signal. To try to place all other men here as women haters, in some sort of One good man play.

We get it. The need to feel superior, to feel better than the rest is very tantalizing, and hard to resist. But Quite frankly it is just so disappointing, and unfair to the men who need this to be a place where they can work through their pain.

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