If you think she's cheating

[KeymasterKeymaster]

narwhal wrote:

2nd point, when evaluating my marriage, I can clearly see now where I let bad behavior slide.

Have done that was well – AND WAS AWARE OF IT. Tolerating s~~~ I never would have put up with because I already knew better. But I did it for the greater good and “for better or for worse”.

I couldn’t be more passionate about this — >> F~~~ “WORSE”.
For better – or even better – or get out.

I heard this “no compromise” clip from Tom Leykis and while it does come off harsh on the first listen, I think it’s perfection.

narwhal wrote:

A part of me regrets my actions, but at the same time, I don’t know that it would have made a difference.

Softening up a bit . . . .

I don’t regret the way I handled it (even still today), because I wanted to know it wasn’t me. Many times it didn’t work, and blamed myself for EVERYTHING.

• “I should have listened more”.
• “I should have put my work aside”.
• “I should have said it another way”.
• “I could have prioritized her more”.
• “We should have gone for more walks”.
• “I should have talked more”.
• “I should have applied more game”.
• I should have gone the extra 10 miles when one mile wasn’t enough.”

NO. It’s bulls~~~, I did far too much and she/they didn’t pull her/their weight. Full stop. Arrive at this place and re-evaulate yourself, and you’ll quickly see 90% of the baggage you have been lugging around can be dropped from your shoulders.

… JUST based on s~~~ty attitude and behavior alone.

So to any man scratching his head about whether or not he’s “doing enough”. Fiuck Janet Jackspon and her “what have you done for me lately” s~~~. If she’s not a sheer joy to be with, GET OUT.
You wil arrive here on your own. It just a matter of time.

Take the vagina and mentally remove it.
What are you left with????

If that’s most fun she brings to the table, exit stage right.

If you think she’s cheating

I can even forgive that! She’s not married! FINE!!! Bang whoever! Just don’t expect a relationship or commitment, that’s all. Just stay single honey and then nobody can call you a “cheater”.

But I won’t look the other way on a p~~~ poor attitude while expecting some guy to stick around for more of it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Excellent post! In a more general vein, don’t waste time in a relationship with a girl who’s got problems that you’re hoping will eventually go away. If you don’t like her the way she is, don’t date her, because they don’t change (except to get fatter).

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[GrumpyParticipant]

She’s given you a reason to think/suspect that she is.
So you are left with 2 choices.
1. Play the game
2. Leave

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[JVBParticipant]

If you chose to be in a relationship cover the bases……. cheat first.

Peace is > piece.

[TheStormWithinParticipant 778]

Many people consider me “heartless” for my anti-relationship/marriage views, but I can honestly say I have never cheated in the few relationships I’ve had. Guilt would have eaten me the f~~~ alive. Reading many of these stories make me feel like a paragon of virtue.

Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

TheStormWithin wrote:

I can honestly say I have never cheated in the few relationships I’ve had.

Good for you, brother. In most situations I’m not inclined to blame men for cheating since their wives/girlfriends treat them like s~~~, but at the same time, we’re not setting a great example if we f~~~ around BEFORE quitting the relationship. I’m not going to do to someone else what I don’t want them to do to me.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[TheStormWithinParticipant 778]

Exactly.

Looking back, there are times where I almost wish I had cheated because I had some great opportunities thrown at me, but I just couldn’t do it. If you’re unhappy, END the s~~~ first, then go and play so you’ll have a clear conscience. I take no s~~~ whatsoever from women and I’ll openly admit to being opinionated as hell on these matters, but at the end of the day, I still need to be someone I can look at in the mirror and be able to tell myself I’m not one of “them”.

Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!

[narwhalParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Softening up a bit . . . .

My point was that within the context of marriage, walking away isn’t really much of an option in terms of responding to s~~~ty behavior. Perhaps it’s hindsight, but even though I was bluepill, I can’t imagine I would have stayed with my ex-wife if it wasn’t for the legal bond of marriage that penalized me for leaving. She would not have behaved the way she did if she thought leaving (without taking cash and prizes) was a realistic option for me. How do I know? Because her behavior changed after we got married.

I 100% agree that if she isn’t fun to be with, then there is no reason to be with her. Marriage means that she can be s~~~ty with no fear of you leaving, cheating or otherwise.

Ok. Then do it.

[Sky-OParticipant 18934]

Occasionally, they like to get caught cheating.

The reasons are as follows:

01: If she is still able to maintain the primary relationship, she has successfully turned her boyfriend into a cuckold. His understanding regarding the cheating is a prelude to being ready with a towel when she gets home so he can wipe Chad’s load off her face and ask her how her day was.

02: Establishes her much needed (and narcissistic) hierarchy in the primary relationship. Which is – snowflake is allowed to take AC (alternate c~~~) but her boyfriend has to be monogamous with her.

03: She gets a sadistic and sick sense of satisfaction from getting caught cheating, watching her boyfriend (now, default cuckold) struggle with finding out, then learn to accept it. That in itself even gets her wet.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

If you think/feel she is cheating… she most likely is cheating.

There, fixed that for you 🙂

The answer, is no.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Oh the things we used to put up with for pussy.

The first real GF (Real meaning I was over 21 years old and could actually go out and get a drink) worked as a server and I was a cook. Only lasted for about 6 months but I realized quickly that she basically jumped from new hire to new hire. It was my turn for 6 months. She had an orbitor and I believed her when she said it was her friend.

The one after that left me for her personal trainer. I guess he asked her out one day and she said yes and went out with him. She told me that it all happened so fast she didn’t know what happened haha. I never spoke to her again.

The last long term relationship, the broad went out with some guy she just met because we were fighting and on a break. On a Wednesday night she claimed to get black-out drunk. I was legitimately worried about her, called her about every hour until 3am and she never answered. The next morning she told me she just passed out. Then after I expressed my distrust she said that I ignored her for 48 hours one time after a fight, so her ignoring me for 24 hours was no big deal. Yea, except you were getting f~~~ed and I was just enjoying my solitude.

I’m sure there were other’s throughout the years that f~~~ed around on me. I basically assumed it was par for the course in a relationship. I am proud to say I’ve never done it though. I had opportunities but I realized I’m not that kind of person.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

I’ve never cheated on a women. I think loyalty is virtue that everyone should strive for. Sadly, it turns out that most women lack this virtue… I’ve been cheated on twice, and I broke up with them. I had too much self respect to let myself be subjugated to such treatment. I always told myself that I would never do anything to anyone that I wouldn’t want done to me. This was all done before taking the red pill. It seems that I had some intrinsic red pill qualities which ultimately saved me a lot of heartache. Once the red pill was swallowed I see any behavior that deviates from her norm as treachery. I just GTFO.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Yojimbo RockfordParticipant 348]

I’ve never understood this “need to know for sure” bulls~~~. I used to be a private investigator. I mostly did insurance surveillance and bounty hunting in my career, but occasionally I would do some domestic spying on the side.

Everytime I would ask them, do you need this evidence for some kind of court case? And every time, they would say, “No, I just really need to know if my suspicions are true”. I can tell you from professional experience, your suspicions are ALWAYS true. But if Blue Pill Raymond really needs his “closure”, I’ll gladly take his $75 an hour plus expenses.

[BoskParticipant 111]

Keymaster wrote:

I heard this “no compromise” clip from Tom Leykis and while it does come off harsh on the first listen, I think it’s perfection.

This is a “Hall Of Fame” talk for Men.
Thank you very much for this !

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Two major relationships in my life. Girlfriend in college and my ex-wife whom I got together with shortly after graduating college. Both cheated on me. And both times I could feel something was different, wrong. Also I found both times that their friends (many of whom I had helped) all knew about it and encouraged the behavior. AWALT gentlemen. And honestly I suspect this is nothing new. I think women have always had these inclinations to cheat. They may not have in the past due to severe consequences but they were there and many still cheated. Many a man has been cuckholded throughout history I’m sure. And while some men cheat many of us do not.

That said, I don’t blame men who cheat I think generally they must have a woman who has systematically made them miserable. They probably have good reason from what I’ve seen. I don’t even blame the guys they cheat with anymore because if a c~~~ is going to cheat they’ll always find someone.

Nero is right if any man wants to have any interactions with women they just need to not get emotionally attached/invested. I plan to give this advice to my sons when they are older in a few years. Side note; I told a young woman I planned to do this in a few years share this wisdom along with other red pill nuggets with my boys. She looked at me and said “You are raising the next generation of heartbreakers.” I told her “Men didn’t make the rules of this game; women did. I’m a father; I have to teach my boys how to play and if they play they’ll win.”

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