If I could just find a virgin to f~~~ I'd have a 50% chance of long marriage

[narwhalParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

Someone to take care of them and expect them to have their own money.

This is a more than reasonable request. In fact, how could a decent independent woman consider marrying at age 50 if she cannot yet take care of herself financially? Really, if marriage is not involving kids in anyway, at any age, that all women have to offer is sex and companionship. At age 50, the fact there are surely better options for sex, she can’t consider this a strong reason. So that leaves companionship, and can you really have good companionship with a dependent?

Besides that, the potential for financially devastating medical expenses has risen at that age. Even if she intends not to be a financial burden, the government dictates that she absolutely will be if she becomes ill.

As far as the virgin argument goes, I would say there are many other factors that need to be considered beyond just her virgin status. Primarily, why is she a virgin? Is she ugly? Religious? Doesn’t like sex? Severely strict parents? Previous BFs were all religious? Besides the reason, what her personality, and how she is likely to react after the seal is broken? Overall, I’d look at personality over volume of sex, within limits. There does come a point in having so many partners, so much variety, that the idea of sticking with one single flavor, even if it’s your favorite, for the rest of your life becomes rather unappealing to a person. I don’t know what that number is, perhaps varying by person, or if it’s something a person can ‘grow out of”.

Ok. Then do it.

[Daryll55Participant 2953]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

Although to be fair, I don’t want to get involved with someone at my age that needs me to take care of them either.

The deal used to be trading the best years of each others’ lives, the points where they were worth the most. For awhile men settled for “just don’t be a bitch.” Now even that is off the table.
They won’t help out, ever. Not with chores, not with cooking, cleaning, or even just basic companionship and camaraderie. They refuse to give you kids unless they personally and financially benefit. Even if you get kids they probably won’t let you see them. And if you do see them, you’re going to pay through the nose to do it while having a state-provided visitation supervisor micromanaging your ever microaggression. And even then, there’s at least a 30% chance the kid isn’t even yours and you won’t find out until they’re 18-25.
Damn, sign me back up. I’m missing out.

Well said:
This is the epitome of what a relationship looks like these days…..
Gone are the traditional husband &wife roles.
Now it is all about “self” and women play that verrry well.
My ex didn’t work, yet couldn’t manage to keep the house clean, guess her time was spent doing “other things.”
NO MAN needs a 1-sided relationship which is what marriage(unfortunately) has turned out to be.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[UntamedParticipant]

I never wanted a virgin. Teaching a bitch to do it wasn’t my priority. But lo and behold I got a virgin to be my wife and she could’ve been the neighborhood bicycle that wouldn’t have changed anything.
Marriage isn’t about sex, it’s about being able to live with the other. But when the other is crazy and supported by a slew of feminists who will only reinforce her lunacy, the best way is to drop it and go your own way.
Virgins now…fu.ck outta here with all that bullshi.t

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Gravel PitParticipant]

The notion of “virgin” is ridiculous. Forget it… 99.99% of girls get their hole plucked before they turn 17…

If you are considering marrying and having a child with a woman, the number you want to stay under is 10. So long as she’s twiddled fewer than 10 guys, your odds of carrying on a ‘successful’ marriage for 20-30 years+ is much better.

The problem is, the vast lion’s share of women, we’re talking 80%+ have banged 40-50 men by the time they are 30. That is also a LOW estimate guy’s, Im not kidding. This includes fat girls, ugly girls, and especially good looking ones. I dont want you to think its limited to the bombshells… no… Even morbidly Obese girls get instant sexual access via Chad morons on Dating Apps.

Im 33. I know the truth. When I was 27, I messed around with those dating apps trying to “find the one” … What I found was a bunch of women who say one thing and later you find out its all BS… I got them to tell me the truth. The TRUTH is they are ALL HUGE SLUTS.

Finding a woman who has ACTUALLY slept with fewer than 10 men is probably the best you can get. If you found one, depending on a few other indicators, you might be able to pull off a marriage. But as we all know, why would you want to?!

The BLACK PILL is this. Even if you find her, She is still just a woman… She will never love you, not even the NAWALT.
You may as well get a doll because Airboxes (regular women) are just as lifeless and void of intelligence. Least the Doll cant harm you.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22542]

Awakened wrote:

It’s not just the hymen that’s broken with Westernized Women…

You can’t be more godam right.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

TaxGuy wrote:

Then one weekend she wanted to hang out with her best friend instead of me. I’ve known the best friend the entire time, no big deal. Turns out it was a set up for her to bang her best friend’s boyfriend’s friend. Because curiosity got the best of her.

How did you find out?

[Branched offParticipant 10967]

Ranger One wrote:

Branched off wrote:

I don’t think our ancestors were fools. Throughout history virgin brides have been preferred. I imagine this is because they make for better and more mutually happy marriages.The great lie of the liberals is that they discovered the truth and brought illumination to an ignorant brutish world. The truth was known all along. Our ancestors knew the truth of the human condition. The liberals invented a lie and fabricated a lot of pseudo science to back it up.

Also, epigenetics is real.
If you have a baby with a woman, the epigenetics (genetic switches triggered by environmental/developmental conditions) may be influenced by the previous guys that have jizzed in her.
Further, odds of divorce are higher, the more men a woman has slept with.

Yes Epigenetics are real. They are also somewhat hereditary. A person is much more likely to be divorced if their mother was divorced. “Strong independent” (attitude filled and entitled) is a trait that can be passed down at least one generation, maybe more. If the switches never get flicked onto “I am stressed and need to grab what I can get in a short term situation where I can find no strong reliable man” women are a lot steadier inside themselves and so a lot more lovable. While I do not want to advertise my life, I have certainly seen this proved true. The old rule is still the best one. If you want the daughter, look at the mother, then decide if she is really worth the investment. Its the mixture of genetics, epigenetics and upbringing. Women are rarely the architects of their lives, their lives happen to them (and then they complain). They can avoid the twist of fate even less than men.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Branched off wrote:

Women are rarely the architects of their lives, their lives happen to them (and then they complain). They can avoid the twist of fate even less than men.

Women and Leftists in general; because more of them tend to have an external locus of control, rather than an internal locus of control. If you have an internal locus of control, you feel responsible for the outcomes in your life and are more likely to be successful. (THIS internal locus factor PLUS having family values is a reason why Nigerian immigrants tend to be wildly successful compared to other Black Americans — 80% illegitimacy rate — and can overcome the evil white racists that are holding blacks back *sarc*)

Liberals tend to have an external locus of control. The upper tier of liberals that are successful tend to support liberal views (and propagandize philosophy of external locus of control to keep the masses down) if they feel it will help them maintain power. (it helps to influence an army of mindless drones)

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Sandals wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

Then one weekend she wanted to hang out with her best friend instead of me. I’ve known the best friend the entire time, no big deal. Turns out it was a set up for her to bang her best friend’s boyfriend’s friend. Because curiosity got the best of her.

How did you find out?

She told me. She should have NEVER told me if she wanted to stay together. And that may have been her way of breaking up, to do something she knew was a deal breaker so I would do it. But based on the phone calls after I broke it off I doubt it. Or she regretted it. But I didn’t want to spend the rest of my life wondering if she was cheating on me every time we weren’t together. I tried for a month or so to get past it but I couldn’t. The final straw was catching her sending the guy a birthday card about a month after she told me. Again, I think she wanted me to catch her. I just don’t think she got the reaction she wanted. She asked me if it bothered me and if it did she wouldn’t send it. I told her to do whatever she thought was right, it doesn’t matter to me. Not sure if I passed or failed that s~~~ test. But as I told her when I broke it off, grown up decisions have grown up consequences.

One chance, per person, per lifetime. NO exceptions.

Order the good wine

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I’m supposed to be impressed that a few of these skanks want a relationship with me? (Mind you, this whole time I’ve been sexless/ignored, they were turning coats, adding a new Bed Post Notch every weekend for over a decade, not hyperbole!)

I have a friend I’ve known for years. She’s attractive, promiscuous, and has a basic understanding of some red pill philosophy. She has 4 kids and even she has had 3 different men this week

I don’t believe any woman over 14 when she says she’s a virgin.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[narwhalParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

She told me. She should have NEVER told me if she wanted to stay together. And that may have been her way of breaking up, to do something she knew was a deal breaker so I would do it. But based on the phone calls after I broke it off I doubt it. Or she regretted it.

Sounds like she felt like she was the victim of her own carnal urges in this case. I’ve seen it happen before. Play it off as you’re disgusted with yourself, and that people will think you’re a slut. “But that wasn’t me, I don’t know what came over me”. Then, your white knight instinct is supposed to kick in and instead of recognizing what a slut she was, you hold her why she cries. The relationship is stronger for what you all went through.

Total garbage.

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

As it stands virgin bride has 25% chance of divorce which is still better than even 2 or 3 notches which is closer to 50% range.

Twenty five percent, huh? Nope. Sorry. Not worth the risk.

No hymen, no diamond.

Yes hymen? STILL no diamond.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

Sounds like she felt like she was the victim of her own carnal urges in this case. I’ve seen it happen before. Play it off as you’re disgusted with yourself, and that people will think you’re a slut. “But that wasn’t me, I don’t know what came over me”. Then, your white knight instinct is supposed to kick in and instead of recognizing what a slut she was, you hold her why she cries. The relationship is stronger for what you all went through.

Total garbage.

Yeah, probably something like that. At the time I was working full time for a worldwide accounting firm, taking my last Masters of Tax class and studying for the CPA exam. During the week I would get up at 5 am, study until 7, then shower and go to work all day. Two nights a week I had classes, but basically I would get home and eat by 6, study until 9, then take an hour for myself and go to bed at 10. Saturdays were an all day class for the CPA exam. Sunday was laundry, grocery store and studying.

So what I really needed from her for about 3 months was just to not be needy. I just needed to grind for a few months. When all was said and done, I passed the CPA exam, all four parts on the first try and finished the Masters program. And got to deal with the fact that she cheated on me and told me about it 3 weeks before the exam. It was nice of her to teach me how to compartmentalize my feelings like that.

The best part was the weekend she cheated on me, she actually called me Monday morning lost. Her school was an hour away and didn’t know her way around my much bigger city, so she got lost leaving her friends house (her friend lived in my city). I get the call at 6 in the morning. Of course I’m up studying. So I drive to where she is and help her get on the right freeway to get back. She’s crying her eyes out and I’m telling her it’s no big deal, I’m just happy I got to see her. Meanwhile some other guy’s cum is dripping out of her thighs. No wonder she’s crying.

But yeah blue pill guy you go marry that virgin.

Order the good wine

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

TaxGuy wrote:

And got to deal with the fact that she cheated on me and told me about it 3 weeks before the exam

She is an evil demon. A true psychopath, to do something like that at a time like that, and then get the high from having you pick her up from the cheating scenario (no, she wasn’t “lost”).

You just never saw it because they are good at hiding it. She’s a candidate for another Susan Smith or Jodi Arias – I guarantee it.

Give it time… you’ll look back and see it.

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