I Need A Punch In The Face

[Anonymous 11]

Get a Beagle Box for inside. You need a yard, preferably, though lots of walking if you live in an apartment. They’re a great way to meet your neighbors.

Beagles are very intelligent also. They are very athletic and ADHD too.

[Anonymous 42]

Beagles run away and come back sometimes days later if at all. Poodles stick together by pack rule and you’re the head honcho.

Beagles think they’re the head honcho and that you’ll dance to their tune!

Let me in at 3:AM or else I’ll start howling!

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

I have a c~~~-a-chon. Black coat. They are hypoallergenic. Have dual coats and don’t shed hair.

He is perfect for apartments. Very easy to train with food like bacon chips. Is very social.

He amazed me when a possum came into the living room. He went to town. Dual coat makes it hard for varmits to get a good bite. He chased that thing like he did a ball.

He is so docile and gentle. Kind of freaky to see him go into protection mode. There i was all bare foot and weapon-less. Should of seen me wielding a fireplace poker.

In hindsight I should have named him ‘c~~~’

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

Beagles think they’re the head honcho and that you’ll dance to their tune!

Not in C-Pig’s house.

[Anonymous 7]

Anonymous wrote:

Beagle, apartment? Like mixing oil and water. Poodles are the smartest and most trainable breed to spend time alone unattended, they don’t howl, beagles do.

Anonymous wrote:

Get a Beagle Box for inside. You need a yard, preferably, though lots of walking if you live in an apartment. They’re a great way to meet your neighbors.

Beagles are very intelligent also. They are very athletic and ADHD too.

Anonymous wrote:

Beagles run away and come back sometimes days later if at all. Poodles stick together by pack rule and you’re the head honcho.

Beagles think they’re the head honcho and that you’ll dance to their tune!

Let me in at 3:AM or else I’ll start howling!

Yeah, I looked up the bred after posting that.
Not a good fit for an apartment.

Not to give offense but I f~~~ing hate poodles.

I have a neighbor that has a dog that is almost twice the weight limit. I could try to go that route but I am the kind of person that will get busted and f~~~ed with if I go that large.

[Anonymous 14]

Most of you guys have read this all wrong in my opinion on both ends of the spectrum. This is a Chad who understands the game but likes being in the Chad seat and reaping all the rewards that go along with it. No wonder it is hard for him to give up “The power he has” over women and vice versa. It is a real guy expressing real problems. He is in a bit of a conundrum because he is wise enough to understand it all, yet far too addicted to money, power, and women, to walk away…

No Tuna, just a Chad with the They Live sunglasses on. He see’s what is going on, yet cannot break away from what he knows is his own destructive nature and ego.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

This is a Chad who understands the game but likes being in the Chad seat and reaping all the rewards that go along with it. No wonder it is hard for him to give up “The power he has” over women and vice versa. It is a real guy expressing real problems. He is in a bit of a conundrum because he is wise enough to understand it all, yet far too addicted to money, power, and women, to walk away…

That’s an interesting take on it, Joe. I must admit, slogging through the soap opera he posted – with his phone allegedly – was so tedious and tiresome that I lost repeatedly track of what he was both saying and trying to say. Dogs, dying parents, elevators, cancer, five story homes, co-eds, it’s a huge swirling mess.

It’s going to take a few more passes reading through the tons of extraneous s~~~ he posted to get any firm handle on the man and his questions.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[mystoryParticipant 370]

Interesting.. I was undecided for that reason..
No one else here could wrap their heads around it, but you. Kudos brother.
Maybe others saw it, but you cleared the air and we all owe you our gratitude.
I feel like this is a highly possible scenario. SMV can be hard to ignore and leave unused.
My sympathies to the OP. Perhaps he’s not as lucky as I thought

I don't need a legacy.. I don't need a monument.

[ModR8Participant 89]

@joe Bauers Thanks man. And thanks @ Key Master. I was mad all day until I saw your comments. I was mad at the suspicions I was an infiltrator or whatever it’s called. I know my story sounds bat s~~~ but that’s what the section said – Tell Your Story. I was mad a the other comments taking me seriously, but mad on their merits.

@joe Bauers I don’t know what a “chad” is, but that sounds right. I like the power. But I’ve powered myself into a situation I don’t like and I want out. Age, combined with experience, combined with what I’ve learned so far online, really getting out means REALLY GETTING OUT, not finding a way to be more powerful and in more control.

I have seven women dependent on me right now in age range of 23-79, not counting employees. These are people who rent my properties. I don’t care that they pay rent. I’m still a slave to their dramas. I was getting off on the power for a while, but I got caught out by that young one and f~~~ed up. I f~~~ed up my own principals even before I heard of MGTOW. I’ve got issues with MGTOW as you probably all have heard before. But I know it’s right and the answer for my sanity. I want to take steps to get free. I might sell it all and just live wild the rest of my life. I don’t know. This whole baby making thing is some kind of last ditch effort by some other me to stay on this treadmill.

I don’t know. I’ll keep posting because in the end I have no one else to talk to.

[mystoryParticipant 370]

Monk wrote:

ModR8 wrote:

I love the notion that at 52 I can so absolutely attract a 23 year old.

You can’t – but your money can.

He may not differentiate himself from his $.

Monk wrote:

No.

I wish that ModR8 would have responded to you above all. You answered his question in the way that he needs to understand. I’m not sure if he wants to understand. KM’s answer to the question is gold; one that I am 100% with him on. Rearing children in the current atmosphere would be inhumane and selfish.
On the other hand, I can see why he feels the imperative to procreate given he’s a Chad.

I don't need a legacy.. I don't need a monument.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

IRuleMe wrote:

A MAN WOULD NEVER SAY: “The puppy was the cutest dog you have ever seen”.

You make an excellent point. . . . but . . . . .

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

The baby is a direct synonym for blue pill conditioning IMO. The divide you feel is caused by the first steps you’ve already taken to shake up that flawed reality. You sound like you’ve got a lot going for you and could probably give great advice on general life matters.

Just get past this hurdle and it’s downhill from there.

[mystoryParticipant 370]

There’s a They Live video game?
Day = made.

I don't need a legacy.. I don't need a monument.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

ModR8 wrote:

@joe Bauers Thanks man. And thanks @ Key Master. I was mad all day until I saw your comments. I was mad at the suspicions I was an infiltrator or whatever it’s called. I know my story sounds bat s~~~ but that’s what the section said – Tell Your Story. I was mad a the other comments taking me seriously, but mad on their merits.

I understand and have been there myself. Unceremoneously banned from a previous MGTOW forum – twice – based on a typed paragraph intro. To this day I still don’t know what I could have possibly said to deserve it…. but it was brutal and upset me for the rest of the day too.

So rather than joining, we created our own, and it would be policy that a door would not be slammed in the face of a new arrival.

I know what it took to make your intro.
You’re very welcome here and I thank you for joining.

( a little back story for your interest )

Understand the company you’re in has seen a lot of female trolls. As recently as yesterday and the day before . . . some of them are brutal wasters of everyone’s time. But I would rather have 10 bitch trolls in the forums than call out the wrong guy. They smoked themselves out eventually.

I’m delighted you found your way here and had the gumption to put it down.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 14]

mystory wrote:

There’s a They Live video game?
Day = made.

Ha, no there is not, I wish there was. That screenshot was made by a dreamer like me and you.

As for ModR8, no worries man, you are just another dude who understands his nature and is having a hard time dealing with it all. A “Chad” is a guy who does well with women, whether it be due to his looks, body, wallet, attitude, or position of power, it does not matter. He is the guy women cheat on their husbands and boyfriends with…Most of us here are just at the point with women that we have all opted out for the most part, you however are just beginning to come to terms with the whole mess and you like being the Chad. Guys like you to me are the ones we should be greeting with open arms, regardless of whether or not you are able to make the break into the land of the Sovereign. As long as you are questioning it all, you should have a place here. But you should be prepared to take some hits for “Blue Pill” behavior… And the fact you titled this thread the way you did is clue enough to say that you understand this.

[OldBillParticipant]

ModR8 wrote:

I don’t know what a “chad” is, but that sounds right.

Being a “Chad” is not a good thing. It means you’re c~~~-struck, that your life revolves around getting and maintaining access to pussy, and that you do nothing which doesn’t further your access to pussy. That’s no life to lead.

Getting back to the question I missed in the sewage spill of your first post, I’m in my mid-50s and am about 90% certain I have never fathered a child. How did I come to peace with that?

By acknowledging and accepting the nature of reality and not by engaging in wishful thinking.

Men don’t have children. Only women do. I’m not talking about bearing children, I’m talking about which parent the law, custom, and society automatically presumes to be the primary parent. That parent is not and never will be you.

Any children are her children and not your children. Her “title” to the children is almost absolute and she can take them from you at any moment she pleases.

You, as a man, do not and never will have children. You’re merely allowed to interact with her children as long as she see fit.

There are some who will now bleat the old ’tis better to have loved and lost line. My response to that is to ask which is worse? To have something you love dearly ripped away from you forever on a whim and then weaponized against you? Or to never willingly put yourself in a position where such a betrayal can occur?

I never had children because, given the options available to me in my 20s and 30s, having a child would have also involved having a woman and woman even then posed far too great a risk. The game wasn’t worth the candle. Other options have appeared since then. I regularly advise the younger men here to look seriously at surrogacy for example.

My options were limited, however, and your options were too. Accept that and move on.

Finally, I’ll bring up the age issue. Let’s say a miracle occurs. You meet a co-ed unicorn tomorrow who is actually interested in you instead of your wallet, she gets pregnant the same day, and other events take place which leave you free to marry. She s~~~s out Junior on schedule sometime in June of 2018 and you now have a son. Congratulations.

You’re going to be in your mid-sixties when he’s playing Little League.

You’re going to be in your mid-seventies when graduates from college.

You might be alive when he brings home the girl he wants to marry.

That’s something to dream about, right?

Face reality, ModR8. Your time has passed and the window is closed.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ModR8Participant 89]

OldBill wrote:

Face reality, ModR8. Your time has passed and the window is closed.

F~~~ you @oldbill. I say that with the deepest respect. What you said enrages me. Which means it’s probably right. But this minute, I’m convinced my window hasn’t closed. I’ve done everything in life. I’ve accomplished so much. Yet every day I get pictures from relatives of their kids and family doing normal stuff. They send them knowing my state and think I’m supposed to take joy in their “success”. I delete the pictures right away. I’d have to block family or tell them to stop sending them to me, but that would just be cruel. How do I tell them I don’t want to see their stupid brats in their costumes this Halloween?

And then there is this…

My uncle was a Purple Heart Vietnam Vet. Afterward he joined the Senate Liaison Corp and became the personal aid to Senator Warren Rudman. After that he founded a successful lobbying firm and made gagillions. I learned from and respected my uncle more than my own dad, a Bronze Star Vietname Vet. My uncle was 59 when his father died. This man by all accounts dominated the Willy’s Jeepster brand and owned a good chunk of southern Georgia. He was a MGTOW, never letting his wives touch any of his wealth. I guess you could do that in those days. The word is, upon his deathbed, my uncle’s father cursed him for not having any children to carry on a great southern name.

My uncle went nuts. He left my aunt of almost 40 years because SHE was the reason he had no kids. She never wanted them. She hated kids. She would not raise them. But she changed her mind after he was gone for a while, and at 52 underwent therapy to reverse menopause and conceive. She miscarried the first time. So they tried again, and at 54 she had my cousin. I don’t think the conception was natural nor the egg hers, but she insisted on the birthing and my cousin is a clone of my uncle. It cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars. I first met my cousin when he was only 3. My uncle was 63, 64 by then. He was a different man. As serious and powerful as ever, but he was happy. My cousin was his new sole mission in life. And my little cousin was spoiled rotten, but taught well.

My uncle died, just around 70, of a massive heart attack when my cousin was ten – right in front of him on a picnic table eating lunch with some other boys from the country club. Fast forward to now, after my aunt raised my cousin by herself (and nannies) when I’ve asked my aunt how they did it and was it worth it. She says it was hard but worth it. My cousin is an exemplary 17 year old, obedient to his mother, conservative, just finished the Senate Page program, loves to hunt and drive 4x4s. He’s a friggin MGTOW and he’s probably a virgin.

So that’s the legacy I face. It sounds like another romance novel, but it’s the truth. It’s no wonder I’m in a mess and write like Sidney Sheldon. I know my ego is driven by pride, and pride is vanity. I read that MGTOWs have no social media, do not seek attention, do not put themselves on display. I can’t do that! I can’t disappear, I can’t sell all. I want to try.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

@modr8
Allow me to apologize for not taking the time to better understand your story. You are correct about infiltrators etc. Trolls, you know the type.
It was my fault for casting doubt I mean no harm.

This is a woman free zone

Interseting about the tenants you have, I consider renting out property but seems like a headache x1000.
I cant wait to hear more from you about that, sell the farm and take off on a cruise haha Evict those t~~~s muwahahaha.

I suggest hang out here and think and consider a sound decision and not do something rash. You have too many eggs not enough baskets. You cant get away from these c~~~s but need to.

MGTOW

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

Makes perfect sense to be honest. The pressure to pass on your lineage has you thinking irrationally, especially now that there’s a time crunch.

You don’t have s~~~ to prove to anyone.

[Anonymous 14]

I kinda see this all as THX-ModR8 is only mid movie here, where he begins to question it all and starts looking for an escape. Now, you will take a beating from many here, no doubt about that, but I am in your corner man, hoping you find your getaway car and make the climb out of the self imposed hellhole you are in. Take each man’s words here into consideration, no matter how hard it is to do. Discard them at your leisure only after careful examination.

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