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Doc’s point is a good one too–now that the authorities have staked out their story can they afford to back-pedal. I don’t know. I DO know of a case where they DID do something like that—stuck with the original story them back-pedaled later. See Phillip Noel Johnson and his armored car heist.
I agree goodkid43 it could be as simple as that; but again where is the video? why hasn’t it been released? Who was the lunch guest? Where/who were the people in the crowd with foreknowledge. And the clown that attacked the congressman only had one gun…
Pete, they are not going to release that until they have run down every clue in the case.
Yes that was AFTER he retired. He worked for Lockheed Martin at the “skunkworks”. Doing what I don’t know. there is has been no release of info about his education, training or background.
So where did they go? How did they get out of the room?
Shooter or shooters see from camera in hall that security guard is approaching. Put over 200 rounds down the hallway, one of which hits guard in the leg. Guard remains in area, probably tucked in a nook or doorway area and SWAT arrives 2 minutes later. No one seen leaving roomI can tell you that stairwells and any exit point on that floor would be secured prior to them making entry into the hallway. No one seen using stairwells to get away.
So where did the shooters go? Repel down unseen, and leave ropes behind? Parachute out window unseen by anyone down below? My understanding is that you can’t do that at less than 500 ft if you want to survive.
Climb out window and use pre-installed ropes to climb to roof, again without anyone noticing? And where from there? a Police helicopter circled above. An unseen zip line.Will we ever have a real mass casualty shooting event? The narrative seems to be (not necessarily a point you have made, but is repeatedly made in circles that peddle these theories) that these all seem to be fake (casualty actors) or false flag. No chance that a real nutjob ever pops and shoots a bunch of people?
Isn’t the point of all of these false flag ops to take away our gun rights? How come it never works, and yet they keep doing them?
Hope spring eternal? Shouldn’t one of the illuminati speak up in the planning of the ops and say: “Ummm ,guys, we keep doing these and we never get to take away gun rights…”Personally I think the evidence points to the fact that he did it. I think we will find out more about what help he got, and more about his planning and motivations as the investigation moves forward and they are able to release more information.
I won’t rule out a gun deal, but I need some kind of plausible theory how they got out of the room.
“No one seen leaving room”
“No one seen entering stair well”
Just curious if you heard sheriff say that? From what I’ve heard there is one hour gap from 10:20-11:20 from security guard arriving to SWAT breaching door.
Who was where during that hour? I’ve no clue. Sure, they probably had room/stair well covered at some point during the hour (30 minutes in), but entire hour I’m not sure. Key is where was security guard those first 10-15 min
Good job establishing a time line surfdude12 I wasn’t aware of any of that.
Yes that was AFTER he retired. He worked for Lockheed Martin at the “skunkworks”. Doing what I don’t know. there is has been no release of info about his education, training or background.
No offense, but the only thing I saw on that was very fake news looking. That he worked with Seth Rich’s dad at LM.
I have not seen anything credible. But if true, I can’t even begin to wrap my head around who and what this guy was. Father a violent bank robber. Strikes it rich working in real estate and travel industries. Goes to work for DOD and LM. Becomes professional gambler, and grafter (doing a poor job of pretending to fall down in casino and filing law suit.)
Mass shooter, and/or illegal gun dealer.I can’t even imagine that life trajectory and how it would possibly all work together.
So where did they go? How did they get out of the room?
Shooter or shooters see from camera in hall that security guard is approaching. Put over 200 rounds down the hallway, one of which hits guard in the leg. Guard remains in area, probably tucked in a nook or doorway area and SWAT arrives 2 minutes later. No one seen leaving roomI can tell you that stairwells and any exit point on that floor would be secured prior to them making entry into the hallway. No one seen using stairwells to get away.
So where did the shooters go? Repel down unseen, and leave ropes behind? Parachute out window unseen by anyone down below? My understanding is that you can’t do that at less than 500 ft if you want to survive.
Climb out window and use pre-installed ropes to climb to roof, again without anyone noticing? And where from there? a Police helicopter circled above. An unseen zip line.Will we ever have a real mass casualty shooting event? The narrative seems to be (not necessarily a point you have made, but is repeatedly made in circles that peddle these theories) that these all seem to be fake (casualty actors) or false flag. No chance that a real nutjob ever pops and shoots a bunch of people?
Isn’t the point of all of these false flag ops to take away our gun rights? How come it never works, and yet they keep doing them?
Hope spring eternal? Shouldn’t one of the illuminati speak up in the planning of the ops and say: “Ummm ,guys, we keep doing these and we never get to take away gun rights…”Personally I think the evidence points to the fact that he did it. I think we will find out more about what help he got, and more about his planning and motivations as the investigation moves forward and they are able to release more information.
I won’t rule out a gun deal, but I need some kind of plausible theory how they got out of the room.
“No one seen leaving room”
“No one seen entering stair well”
Just curious if you heard sheriff say that? From what I’ve heard there is one hour gap from 10:20-11:20 from security guard arriving to SWAT breaching door.
Who was where during that hour? I’ve no clue. Sure, they probably had room/stair well covered at some point during the hour (30 minutes in), but entire hour I’m not sure. Key is where was security guard those first 10-15 min
The sheriff said that the SWAT team arrived on the floor 2 minutes after the guard. That the shooting had stopped so they locked everything down and evacuated all other rooms before breeching the door one hour later.
10:05-10:15 Gun shots
10:17 Security guard shot at door
10:26-10:36 More police arrive and clear adjacent rooms
10:55 More police arrive at stairwell (5 feet from room), but don’t approach door since they see cameras on service cart in front room so wait for full SWAT
11:20 Full SWAT breach room
From above doesn’t look like stairwell secured until 10:55 or 40 min after gun stops firing , but I don’t know where security guard was
The only thing I know about professional gambling is that against the House—you lose sooner or later ever time. However it is a good way to launder cash. So if you don’t mind losing 10K out of 100K in order to “clean” the currency well…
the only way I think a professional gamble makes money at this is in the open poker.
There was a reason for the delay, Lombardo said. Officers actually reached Paddock’s hotel room door on the 32nd floor within 12 minutes of the first shots being fired, “which is phenomenal,” the sheriff said.
The shots had stopped 10 minutes after they started, according to the new timeline, which factors in information recorded on police officers’ body cameras and closed-circuit television footage from the concert venue.
The shooting apparently halted when Paddock detected the security guard’s approach at his hotel room door and turned to shoot the guard, Lombardo said.
The first police officers arrived about two minutes after that, the new account suggests. When they saw what had happened, they evacuated nearby rooms and waited for backup from a SWAT team to enter the room. That ended up happening 75 minutes after the first shots were fired.
Paddock was already dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Well like I said I could be wrong; wouldn’t be the first time. But any theory worth its salt must be able to stand up to critique. If mine can’t then so it goes.
@Pedal ok yes that makes sense. So likely secured stairwell around 10:25 , key seems to be where security guard was. You’re probably right he had eye on the door
10:05-10:15 Gun shots
10:17 Security guard shot at door
10:26-10:36 More police arrive and clear adjacent rooms
10:55 More police arrive at stairwell (5 feet from room), but don’t approach door since they see cameras on service cart in front room so wait for full SWAT
11:20 Full SWAT breach room
From above doesn’t look like stairwell secured until 10:55 or 40 min after gun stops firing , but I don’t know where security guard was
I saw that about the stairwell. I hope the writeup was done only as it pertains to the 32nd floor, and that it didn’t take them 40 minutes to lock that stairwell down.
If that stairwell was unsecured, and I find that hard to imagine since it is such basic protocol, then Pete’s theory just got a whole lot more plausible.I’d feel a lot more secure if Uly jumped on this thread and agreed! he’s a sharp SHARP guy!
his girlfriend was a philipina.
she was NOT catholic.
therefore a muslim.
and there ya have it.
he recently converted to islam.
and,
ISIS spoke out and claimed he was a ‘soldier of the caliphate”.
good enough for me.
another islamic terrorist.
Anonymous7Geezuz this sounds like a game of Clue.
ISIS has tripled down on taking credit.I think Pete has the right of it EXCEPT…..
He was the money man for a Jihad.
ISIS buddies show up and it is a. a double cross or b. he chickens out so they cap his ass and go on with the Jihad.More questions than answers.
When was the time of death?Did he have powder burns on his hands and arms?
Fresh powder residue in his lungs {edit residue from powder smoke}? Was he f~~~ing breathing during the weapons fire. Ok, this one I am not sure is possible to tell. Sounds like it could be though.
Where there multiple prints on the weapons, magazines and ammo?
What does ballistic forensics say about the bullet wound that killed him?
Did he die from a hand gun wound or rifle wound?
Where any of the weapons found reported stolen or tampered with in an attempt to scrub the serial numbers.
Yes, he had cameras setup but accomplice(s) could have snagged the storage devices. Did the recording devices still have their storage widgets?
Was any of the footage uploaded to the Web or Dark Web?
How many f~~~ing toothbrushes where found?
Any girl s~~~ found?
Like pink razors in the trash or ok, idk whatever bitches buy.Us every day joes will never know.
Anonymous7Ok, another crazy thought then I’m out.
The lack of details is:
A did giveaway to a cover up.A way to weed out the crazies that come forward and say they Helped
A chance to double, triple and quadruple facts before releasing them.
Evidence points to a political conclusion that the elitist C-Suckers do want us poor f~~~s to know.
A combination of the above?
Or maybe Steve was sick of being rich & decided to go full retard with a gambling/psycho-shooting spree.
If there was more than one person in the room, security cameras (as well as the camera on the room service cart) would’ve caught them running to avoid the police.
By the way: Steve’s dad was also a nutjob. He robbed a bank and went to prison. His mother sure knew how to choose a role model, huh?
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
it was Colonel Mustard, in the conservatory, with a lead pipe
I believe it was an assassination attempt on Dan Bilzerian, but he’s such a tier one operator it was too hard to get a decent lead on him.
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