I got a deal for these anti-gun student protestors

[Anonymous 0]

Old Buck wrote:

It really should be 21, just like the drinking age. I had first said 25 years old, but people like to haggle on everything. Always shoot high. 😁

If you are in the military, police academy, or firefighter (civic duty) the age restriction should be waived because you have proved to be mentally capable of making important decisions.

That would apply to liquor and firearm sales as well.

Now this sounds much more of an agreeable solution to me as a contibuting citizen and firefighter/emt. Haha. Not to sound arrogant, but doing these types of jobs changes how you see things and how you act.

I would suggest the change of adult recognition to the age of 21 in addition. Covers the gaps were I see issues popping up.

[Anonymous 0]

Suggestius wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

Ok I understand that and partially agree, but to take away a group of peoples right to vote because of a certain amount of idiots is wrong. Not everyone between 30 and 18 is a retard. There are many who are not.

No, I don’t offer to take away all the rights to vote. But citizens should gain the rights step by step with ages. From some local elections to the presidential ones at 30. And it’s not only about infantilism of the modern youth. It’s also about the lack of living experience.

Yes living experience makes a huge difference. The experiences shape people and their beliefs. The step by step process is much more feasable and agreeable.

I still am highly opposed to paying any kind of tax in which I have no say in how it may be used on any offical level. If I can not vote untill I sm 30 for example on presidential election, I should not be paying Federal taxes. Yes I know there are other federal level elections, but the president is the offical that can spend the most in a fiscal year in say thecevent of war.

Taxes level up with what level of voting a person has the ability to vote for.

However as long as I stand to lose something I have already, I will oppose and resist that change. I will fight for what I have, and debate in favor of not losing what I have.

[Anonymous 1]

I have always found the DIFFERENCES in the “age of responsibility” very odd (that is, the age at which various things become “legal” because the person has attained an age where it is “generally deemed acceptable” to hold said persons responsible for their actions). Think about these (which are in a general low-high order)(may vary state-to-state, country to country):

purchase birth control without parental consent
decide to have an abortion
drive a car unsupervised
fly a plane unsupervised
be tried as an adult for serious crimes
consent to sex with an older partner
join the military
vote
purchase tobacco products
purchase (or star in) porn
purchase a long gun
get a hotel room
purchase alcoholic beverages
purchase a handgun
drive a commercial vehicle interstate
rent a car

In many places in the US, a kid can decide to get an abortion about 10 years before they are allowed to rent a car.

[TsarParticipant 393]

Proof Democracy does not work, We in America have more rights and freedoms than any other country on earth and yet the moronic masses will demand LESS rights and freedoms. The founders were right to limit who could vote based on property, age, gender, etc

“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.'”

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Tsar wrote:

Proof Democracy does not work, We in America have more rights and freedoms than any other country on earth and yet the moronic masses will demand LESS rights and freedoms. The founders were right to limit who could vote based on property, age, gender, etc

As soon as the Bill of Rights and our functioning as a Republic gets undermined enough, and we start functioning more like a Democracy, we will become a full-fledged tyranny.

The elites with power will simply control the flow of information, in order to stir up the masses with whatever emotions are needed, to get the masses to vote for what the elites want them to. You can see this theorized in “Engineering of Consent” (1947) by Edward Bernays and in more recent times in the experiments conducted by Facebook in creating emotions in their users.

On the surface, it will appear to be mob rule, but it will really be a globalist oligarchy ruling. They use petty social issues to divide people into two political camps, when in reality, each political camp is controlled by the globalists and will enact policies for the globalists that help the globalists get richer and more powerful.

That is why the system, regardless of whether a Bush or an Obama is president, always advances further down the road to a police state.

That boot stamping on the face of humanity forever, is on a globalist foot.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

I strongly disagree on moving the age to 21. First off, is this thought even based on actual data? The last mass killer was 19, but do murder stats show that pushing the age to 21 would actually reduce murder rates in any sort of way? I highly doubt that.

Instead, you would be punishing law abiding citizens, making it illegal for them to defend themselves and enjoy hobbies like hunting. What the latest attack has shown is that the government will not be there to protect you. Why compound the problem by making people even more reliant on the government for protection.

And if you push everything back to 21, you are going to do a number on the economy. People start working and driving at 16. That’s 5 years of lost labor. You are also going to make it 5 more years where they are fully a dependent on their parent(s). And since kids typically graduate high school at 18, and don’t always go to college, what are they supposed to do for 3 years? Ok sure, you can just push the gun age back to 21, but does it makes sense for a person to vote, be married, have a job, drive a car, have a kid, but not be thought of as responsible enough to buy a gun?

As far as granting special rights to those and military and police, I completely reject the idea that they are somehow more wiser than those who don’t chose those careers. Personally, I’ve met some real morons in the military/police. I’m not saying I don’t trust them with a gun, just saying that they certainly were not more stable or wiser then everyone else I knew. Hell, the marine I knew in college was the last guy you wanted at a party because he would ALWAYS get drunk and start fights.

Honestly, I don’t know if there should even be a safety test. Accidental deaths aren’t the issue at hand there. The people who commit these crimes absolutely know what they’re doing.

If you want to solve the problem, let’s allow law enforcement to do their job, and not pay them NOT to arrest threats because it looks bad for the politicians. Allow adults, whether teachers or guards, to carry weapons in school just so it’s not a soft target.

Oh, and as far as rental cars…pretty sure that’s not a law to limit to age 25, but an industry policy, based on liability. There is a solid reason for the age limit, not some arbitrary policy that just feels good.

Ok. Then do it.

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