I don't know if I belong here.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

How old are you? I’m 23, I’m young as f~~~.

I have my whole life in front of me. I haven’t done anything in my life yet, so I gotta enjoy myself​. I like the wisdom you be spewing, but remember, we’re not the same. You enjoyed your life, but I haven’t.

Please, respect my opinion, and I will respect yours.

B~~~~ to the wall! Go for it I say!!!

(Hey KM! Can we get a ‘time capsule thread’ for these kinds of posts? I’d kinda like to hear what these guys have to say after rereading their own comments in fifteen years.)

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Welcome to MGTOW and the forums. You should realize your post is filled with some of the most classic deflections and they will never work here.

wizer wrote:

On the other hand, I see a lot of bitterness here,

Are you aware that’s the number one accusation and “shaming tactic” used against men when openly criticizing the very real actions and behavior of the female collective?

“You’re just bitter”.

It’s classic and predictable. Do you see how that’s a deflection away from the point? As if my unwillingness to be treated unjustly is now MY problem? Anger (or bitterness) is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. It is important to remember that a passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.

wizer wrote:

men who refuse to be accountable for their own actions, and how their own behavior led to the demise of their marriage,

You can’t say that with any intellectual honesty when women will dump and divorce a man for being “too nice”.

Right?

wizer wrote:

what happened to the man they thought they were going to spend the rest of their lives with, who turned out to be cheaters, or abusers, or drug addicts or losers who cannot keep a job or be responsible with finances.

Women marry man thinking he WILL change – and he doesn’t.
Men marry thinking she will NOT change – and she does.

Women (including the one above) deliberately seek out and choose to mate, date and fornicate with abusers, convicts, violent and abusive men. They will actually discard a “good man” in favor of jerks who mistreat them.

You said men should be accountable for their own s~~~ty choices, so are now you now suggesting women should NOT?

wizer wrote:

Lots of men on here seem to be women haters

That shaming tactic won’t work either. It’s silly, unrealistic and impossible to “hate women” as an entire sex, just like it’s silly unrealistic and impossible to LOVE them all.

wizer wrote:

they take their own experiences and blindly apply them to every human being on the face of the planet that owns a vagina.

Thats’ just intellectually dishonest and silly. You’re exaggerating when you say “every human being on the face of the planet that owns a vagina”. NOBODY with a brain in their heads thinks one thing applies to “every human being on the face of the planet that owns a vagina”…. except owning a vagina.

So don’t attempt that as some argument.
It makes you look stupid.

Here’s something on generalizations.
/generalizations/

wizer wrote:

A common misconception on this site is that it’s always the guy who gets taken advantage of. It’s not. It’s the breadwinner, which is usually- but not always the guy.

Do you see how flawed that statement is?

The range you’re speaking about is somewhere between “always” and “usually, but not always”….. which is just another way of saying “MOST of the time”.

So since you are aware that it’s usually, and MOST of the time, but not “always” … then the only point you’re making is that it’s not 100% of the time.

Even 99.9% of the time is “not always”.

You are attempting to pull focus from the majority to the lowest common denominator, and you will never learn anything in the world that way. “Birds Fly” is a true generalization, and it’s true that MOST birds fly, but you come here and argue “NOT ALL BIRDS!!!!” because penguins, emus and ostriches don’t?

Look up, grasshopper. Not down.

wizer wrote:

not ALL women are that way which is where that generalization (as do most) falls flat on it’s face.

Yes. You said that already.
But the NAWALT deflection is what falls on its ass.

“NOT ALL women are like that”. Which is just you admitting –>> you already know MOST of them are. If you believed most women were “not like that”, you would say “most women are not like that”. But you already know that most of them are, and you said it yourself! That’s why you argue “not all”. Because even 99.9% is still “not all”.

How and why does your NAWALT deflection fail?

“Here is a box of hand grenades. Not all of them will explode in your face. Go ahead! Pull the pin! Wassammatter? NOT ALL GRENADES ARE LIKE THAT!!! YOU SEEM LIKE YOU REALLY HATE GRENADES!!! YOU’RE SO BITTER!!! YES , GRENADES USUALLY EXPLODE!!! BUT NOT ALWAYS BUT NOT ALL OF THEM!!! NOT EVERY BALL IN THE WORLD WITH A STEM ON IT IS A GRENADE!!! YOU NEED TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR MISHANDLING GRENADES!!! NOT ALL GRENADES ARE LIKE THAT!! YOU’RE SO BITTER!!!”

^^ That’s how ridiculous your arguments sound.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

Autolite wrote:

MOBB93 wrote:

How old are you? I’m 23, I’m young as f~~~.

I have my whole life in front of me. I haven’t done anything in my life yet, so I gotta enjoy myself​. I like the wisdom you be spewing, but remember, we’re not the same. You enjoyed your life, but I haven’t.

Please, respect my opinion, and I will respect yours.

B~~~~ to the wall! Go for it I say!!!

(Hey KM! Can we get a ‘time capsule thread’ for these kinds of posts? I’d kinda like to hear what these guys have to say after rereading their own comments in fifteen years.)

Don’t worry, I’ll never marry, or be in a relationship. I’ll never​ be under a woman’s control​. But, I’m young, I want to f~~~, that’s all broski.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

wizer wrote:

Not shaming you at all. I respect your decision but I can’t help thinking that you’ve given up the opportunity to meet a woman who you might actually enjoy sharing your life with.

Yes you are shaming and you’re not even aware of it.

“You can’t help thinking” is also an admission that you can’t control and make your own sensible thoughts and decisions. You’re automatically spewing out some Disney nonsense that you have been socialized to think. You don’t even have any sensible sales pitch with benefits to go along with it

Furthermore, you place far too much value on sharing your life with a woman, when the law already proves it pays and rewards better NOT to.

What does a man gain from “sharing his life with a woman”?
Before you answer that, what can he lose?

Does a woman bring the equivalent of your potential losses to the table?

What “opportunity” is there to share his life with a woman when he doesn’t even have 50% the ability to do so ( or control of the outcome ) even when he really WANTS it.

You’re divorced yourself! And you’re going on about “sharing your life” with a woman to other men who know better?

One wonders if have any clue of what the f~~~ you’re talking about.

wizer wrote:

I don’t know if I belong here.

You don’t even know if this is a place for YOU. So why the f~~~ are you talking about anyone ELSE like an authority at all?

Unbelievable.

“I don’t know if this is a place for me. But I think you’re really missing out on the opportunity to share your life with a woman. By the way, I’m divorced “.

Jesus tap-dancing Chipotle.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 3]

Lot of good posts here & a lot various takes on your so called question. Here is my take
I hold myself accountable for my actions & I am responsible for my behavior.I choose who I want to associate with, when I want to b with someone & what I want to do. I spend my money as I see fit & I give money away when it is appropriate when I identify a genuine need. Simply put I come & go as I please. I noticed that was not part of your intro.
Now,have you ever spent anytime alone & I mean extended time to ‘ figure it out_’ Did you go from one woman to the next until you ‘found your unicorn ‘ Five years with the same woman & she is your all & all. Good for you, but I would not trade my solitude for anything. I have found my freedom & I have found my peace. Men here are at different stages. It took me a long time to get where I am today & I like it. My time is my own.
However, welcome & thank you for posting up. Who knows what the future will bring & I truly wish you the best.
Sometimes happiness for a dog is when you throw him a bone. Good luck

[MACHOParticipant]

wizer wrote:

But I’m “wizer”
I do not believe they’re all the same. But just in case, I keep a few of my toes out of the pool. I will never, ever jump in with both feet unless I’m headed for my own grave.
Gives me the best of both worlds

MACHO wrote:

A Bit like having your cake and eating it too!

wizer wrote:

Not a bit like it.
EXACTLY like it.

MACHO wrote:

Do You know that in order to eat a cake one needs to cook it first? Your statement might get you cooked well Done on here!
And my Dog loves eating Cakes

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[freedomParticipant 5129]

The thing is that people don’t get, that most people like us never say that all women are c~~~s, you know what? I even think that 20% of them are not, actually my sisters both are not like that, one of them makes way more than her husband and still makes a great wife.

However, if you were to play Russian roulette with an 80% chance you gonna blow your brain out and 20% odd that you gonna get a Million bucks … and you know what, let’s say you are a good judge of character so let’s call it 50/50, would you take the risk?

[ResParticipant 542]

Hahah, the undertones in this thread.

If you want to put yourself in the line of fire of a woman to get something she has to offer, like health insurance or sex, just be prepared to accept the consequences when the s~~~ hits the fan. It’s just not MGTOW. The rules are briefly summed up below the reply box: “the MGTOW Forums are for registered red-pill Men only“. I couldn’t care less who posts here, it’s not my job to moderate these forums, but the way I see it spelled out, you shouldn’t be here.

Mr. Boats: "'Avoid the reeking herd! Shun the polluted flock! Live like that stoic bird, the eagle of the rock!' You know what that means, son?" -American Splendor

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

You complain that we generalize.

Here is one:
Only women can get pregnant and have a baby.

That generalization is a fact. And it comes with consequences.

The main consequence is that AWALT. Why? Because they have to be.

A women must be a parasite! It ain’t hate. It is their reality.

A parasite must have a host in order for her family to survive.

I call bulls~~~ on your divorce story. Red pill rage is a reality. It is the result of being violated.

If your divorce didn’t result in you standing on the edge of a cliff then you weren’t invested in your daughter, life, etc.

Your story doesn’t fit the narrative of a man’s life after divorce.

Maybe you need to attend a pink pussy hat parade and listen to Madonna.

Enjoy.

Peace brothers

[AwakenedParticipant 35264]

Hey, I think he wised up, and got the hell out of here !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MACHOParticipant]

Looks that way! 😎👍

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[AwakenedParticipant 35264]

It would be like me going on an MRA site, and attempt to shame forum members all the while I tell them that I really don’t agree with them, and then have the complete lack of common sense to ask the forum members if they think I belong ???

Really, some people just have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE ??

I don’t know where they come from, but they have been finding this place. Are they ALL Tuna’s, Mangina’s or just your average garden variety Dumb Asses ?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AwakenedParticipant 35264]

MACHO wrote:

Looks that way!

Macho,

Nice New Avatar Picture

I didn’t recognize ya !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MACHOParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

Macho,
Nice New Avatar Picture
I didn’t recognize ya !!

Thanks, it’s my new look but a few minutes ago I briefly changed back to Hulk because I was p~~~ed off! Now I’m calm.. back to Bloodhound 😎

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[AwakenedParticipant 35264]

I’m wonderin if the Hulk will rear its Green Head on the next Tuna Hunt ??

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MACHOParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

I’m wonderin if the Hulk will rear its Green Head on the next Tuna Hunt ??

My friend to be honest with you he doesn’t even know it himself!

He improvised it all as he went! I guess it depends on how angry the tuna makes him, then he would certainly turn green 😎

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MACHOParticipant]

Well the bloodhound got to take a nap before work, doesn’t look like that one is coming back soon.. See ya!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Goddamn KM, you f~~~ing destroyed that troll.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 6]

Just my two cents here gentlemen, but the Original Poster’s “story” and follow ups has all the earmarks of a divorced wife telling what happened to her now ex husband when she dragged him through divorce court or she’s relating a story of a man that she’s heard about through one of her female friends.

Really think about it folks, it’s an extremely plausible explanation.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Just my two cents here gentlemen, but the Original Poster’s “story” and follow ups has all the earmarks of a divorced wife

Goddam right. I would bet $20 on it too.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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