I don't know if I belong here.

[AutoliteParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Difference is I respect the guy who wants nothing to do with woman, and make no attempt to change his mind. He has reasons and it does well to listen to them.

I want nothing to do with woman because I already know that I’m lousy at judging character, predicting the future or mind reading. “A good man has got to know his limitations”… 😀

[Anonymous 43]

umm hold on a minute while I boot up my other computers and log in as my other puppet accounts

[Anonymous 43]

oh snap did I say that out loud?

[Anonymous 18]

@may 7 2020, really appreciate you sharing that brother.

You encapsulate the soul of mgtow rising from the fire of deception and pain men are put through for being honorable and functioning with a code of masculinity.

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome!

He’s partially right!

We cannot act like men are saints, and women are the devil. Yes, many of us have been abused by women, and society, but men are not angels themselves.

But, dude, women are problems. You can be in a relationship, but don’t ever marry, again, ever. Live your life, be who you want to be, and go forth with your life.

God bless.

[MACHOParticipant]

You know what sucks in life? When the Host leaves the party prematurely!

My bloodhound and I were just getting the fishing rods out of the closet !!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

What’s going to happen on May 7 2020?

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Anonymous 43]

omg Wizzer really stirred you dudes up?

wow.

I would have thought the first ass pounding would have wizened him up. I guess he has more to give.

What kind of woman waits 5 years to get married? He’s using her for health insurance? what is she getting out of the deal?

lets go down the list…

Money? well he blew $250K on a divorce, maybe he makes good money with no health insurance?
hmmm I stock shelves at a big box store and I have health insurance.

Power? Government worker, mayor, general, movie producer…probably not.

Fame? Actor, author, singer…doubtful

Physical protection? hmmmm nope lock the door, lock the windows, get a gun.

Emotional tampon, hi honey how was your day? mmmmm getting closer

ability to endure a s~~~ vortex… a man’s ability to endure a s~~~ vortex is almost unlimited. Ability to escape is limited.

Sex: is he the best she can do. probably

orbiters? hmmm after 5 years gotta be at least one? and she was refused? maybe

monkey brancing potential? doesn’t sound like it.

has she hit the wall and Wizer is the last man standing? getting closer I think

I think she keeps you because she can’t do any better.

It’s ok Champ, it happens to everyone sometime. We were all the best she could do at some time.

xlgtgtveryvhtbbrg: May 7 2020, my daughter turns 18. I stop paying cs to a c~~~ who makes $150K a year, I make less than 40K, mandatory 20% cs for 1 child.

[WallyParticipant]

“These aren’t the simps your looking for, move along”

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 13]

For all those that say you can be in a relationship.

I can’t.

I won’t.

Because I can never again live with someone who has a gun to my head 24/7 365.

That’s the modern woman and the state.

She only has to make a phone call.

So, it doesn’t matter if she really wouldn’t.

It’s the fact she CAN.

Paranoid?

Not nearly enough.

Phone calls and false abuse charges with women has become standard M.O. with them.

We now have lawyers actually advising them to do this in event of divorce.

How many birds need to fall out of the goddam skies?

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

I think he left us. But he was never actually interested in hearing what we had to say.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[MACHOParticipant]

xlrsnbrg wrote:

I think he left us. But he was never actually interested in hearing what we had to say.

Don’t know, Not sure! Keeping my fishing 🐟 rods handy 😜

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Anonymous wrote:

He’s partially right!

We cannot act like men are saints, and women are the devil. Yes, many of us have been abused by women, and society, but men are not angels themselves.

You do have a valid point there. I’ll even give “wizer” the benefit of doubt.
MGTOW is a response to a gynocentric society. Not the only possible but the most logical.

Not all men are angels and yes there are women who have been forced to pay alimony as well. Nevertheless 9 out of 10 times in any western society it’s the man who gets screwed in court.
There was the love story of Pocahontas and Mr Smith. The US still hasn’t been treating their Native inhabitants too well. Schindler’s list is based on facts, still no one would claim being a Jew or Gypsy in Nazi Germany was a healthy lifestyle. So yes there are exceptions to the rule, but these do not prove a rule invalid.
MGTOW is our way of dealing with the circumstances, whether “wizer” belongs here or not, he needs to figure out himself. We will be here and openly discussing views and experiences . So join or leave, but be ready to take some flak for “NAWALT” statements.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

F~~~ Me…….this ‘man’ seems awfully like fish…….f~~~ing hell, what a knob to try this s~~~ here, of all places……..either fish or complete mangina……I came here to get away from idiots like this ‘man’…..he doesn’t need or want any financial help from a woman or anybody else, yet goes on to say how he’s on her health insurance……bulls~~~

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[MACHOParticipant]

Muglintar wrote:

Not all men are angels and yes there are women who have been forced to pay alimony as well. Nevertheless 9 out of 10 times in any western society it’s the man who gets screwed in court.

Since when the beaten up men of mgtow started being compared to Angels 👼 That’s not the Site’s Name! Or the general focus on here.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Because I can never again live with someone who had a gun to my head 24/7 365.

Some guys can do that and others can’t. That’s pretty much what it boils down to. I know for a certainty that I most definitely cannot yet I know a guy who contemplating his fifth marriage.

All we can do here is tell our stories and give our opinions based on our own observations and experiences. We warn others and that’s just the best we can do…

[Anonymous 3]

You don’t belong.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Wizer, I Think you would be wise to join an MRA forum, or something like that.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 5]

Anonymous wrote:

For all those that say you can be in a relationship.

I can’t.

I won’t.

Because I can never again live with someone who has a gun to my head 24/7 365.

That’s the modern woman and the state.

She only has to make a phone call.

So, it doesn’t matter if she really wouldn’t.

It’s the fact she CAN.

Paranoid?

Not nearly enough.

Phone calls and false abuse charges with women has become standard M.O. with them.

We now have lawyers actually advising them to do this in event of divorce.

How many birds need to fall out of the goddam skies?

How old are you? I’m 23, I’m young as f~~~.

I have my whole life in front of me. I haven’t done anything in my life yet, so I gotta enjoy myself​. I like the wisdom you be spewing, but remember, we’re not the same. You enjoyed your life, but I haven’t.

Please, respect my opinion, and I will respect yours.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Do you belong here? Sure, why not. But just be open minded. I totally agree with you that many men are pricks. But I don’t date guys, so that’s not my problem. And I know some great women, just not single ones my age. If I were to find one I might consider dating her. You think you found one, good for you.

Look, the truth is most relationships end. Most of the time when you date someone, you end up not being compatible for the long haul. And then over 50% of marriages end in divorce. And most of the time it is the man who ends up paying. So, it’s a game that is stacked in favor of the woman. If she wants to leave a marriage, she actually gets paid on the way out the door. So she has incentive to leave. A cash payout. Most guys have to weigh the financial devastation against trying to make things work. Not the same circumstances on the way out of a relationship. So if a guy makes an unemotional decision to protect himself it just makes sense.

I do see guys on this website that talk about pumping and dumping, etc. You can take that as hating women. And I’ve seen some posters that in my opinion do hate women. But I typically chalk that up to red pill rage. Once they get past that they realize that hating doesn’t do any good. If you’re reading a bunch of threads here and coming to the conclusion that we are all a bunch of woman hating losers, then I think you probably came here with that attitude.

Anyway, I vote stick around if you want to. Just realize that men going their OWN way might be a different way than yours. And we don’t all have to think the same way.

Order the good wine

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