Hypersensitive Men and Suicide

[WallyParticipant]

The advice you guys have given is some of the best I have ever read. Only thing I can offer Is when I get in a similar move I hang out with my close friends, one is a MGTOW and he gives the harsh honest truth about women, quickly solves any depression I might have after hearing the crap he went through. One thing that might help also, observe the men with beautiful girlfriends and just watch how stressed they are, you will relish your freedom.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Grab a piece of paper. There will do two columns. One column you write down things you will gain from not dealing with women. The other column write things you will lose or the negative aspects. You need to write it down on paper and be honest about it. You need strong enough reasons not to deal with women and not care about them.
The more points for both column is better, you need strong enough emotions though. It may take you a few days to come up with good lists.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RoyDalParticipant]

@Megachris%,
I had one f~~~ of a case of depression during my college years. I solved it through nutrition. Coincidentally, I am listening to this nutrition expert on the radio as I write. I searched his site for “depression” and this turned up. http://criticalhealthnews.com/health-news/ben-fuchs-health-nuggets-audio/129-depression
(Full disclosure: I haven’t listened to it yet, because I’m keeping my ear on the radio.)

By the way, I had to add the missing nutrients to my diet by way of pills. They were simply missing from the stuff I could get from the grocery store.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[pharmerParticipant 407]

Tiga K wrote:

When I hit my lowest of lows, I like to lie down on my bed and listen to the most beautiful music I have. After I’ve had a good cry, I get up and usually feel much better. Like anger, sadness needs an outlet as well.

Lachrymology – sure it may have been a bit of a p~~~ take from the band tool but I agree it really can help you feel better.

I’m a little surprised at the openness of what all of you have expressed here. Most of all proud to be a part of such a supportive emotionally conscious community. Just my 2 c but I think you can never make real progress by just flat out denying these parts of ourselves. You just have to find ways of dealing with it that work for you. Maybe solitude and ghosting, maybe FWB or strip joints. The important thing is mindfulness and not just blindly following gut (or groin) instincts.
For me it was FWB. Gotta have the human touch. I got lucky and found a good one. It’s a mine field out there.

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@Megachris Sit down for a moment have a talk with your uncle Keymaster. You wanna drink? What’s your poison? I’m on my second black Russian right now. I’m just gonna give it to you straight. No ice or anything.

You expect too much from women. And by “too much”, I mean don’t even expect her to remember her own name. If you do, you WILL be disappointed. It’s a guarantee. The vagina is basically an upside-down volcano. It’s prone to instability and constant little random erruptions. There is no “sense’ to be made out of it. There is no consistency. She will go when she goes. She is a temporary pleasure at best.

REPEAT: She is a temporary pleasure — at best.

However LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman…
You can always count on her to fall below it.

Example. I was entirely “fed up” by 2009. By 2009, I had decided I was going to EXPECT NOTHING from a woman. Nothing. Not even basic manners. In doing so, I thought “she can’t possibly fall off the floor” now. Then I met an Asian chick who was rather wonderful. But was she wonderful? Or was it because I expected nothing , so even a “yes please” would have blown my mind.

So we went out for the second time and it was definitely “ON”. No question. I would have put my hand in the fire for this one and thought OK she has some promise. On the second date. she drank 1/2 a 5 oz glass of champagne and fell asleep at the table. Im not kidding. Like a rag doll. I am quite sure she drugged herself when she want to the bathroom. “take me back to your place” she said. I had to CARRY HER OUT because she couldn’t even stand on her own two legs.

She couldn’t even stand on her own two legs or stay awake. She was a rag doll in the car next to me. LESS THAN USELESS.

“Take me back to your place” she said. I did a 180 and drove her home, kicked the car door open from the inside and pushed her out and then dragged her into the lobby and passed her to the doorman. “She’s your problem now”. And then I drove off.

However LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman…
You can always count on her to fall below it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TaoTheMgtowWandererParticipant 263]

a vasectomy wont help with the misery, but it will keep you safe from getting locked into baby jail, so i would highly recommend it.

However, i would recommend that you do something very important, Self actualization, do something you enjoy because god dammit, im doing it for myself because i f~~~ing enjoy it! now, on the subject of your friends, and your co-worker, your living the dream! she is completely ignoring you, so now you can buckle down, get your work done, then head home, or out to the bar, or out to do something you truly enjoy. You need to get the idea in your head, that your “friends/co-workers” at work, are just that, “co-workers.” Your there to punch in, do your job, punch out, and go home, your not there for a party, your not there to entertain…your there to do your job, that’s it.

My suggestion, would be to do something, or multiple somethings…that you enjoy, then find people who love doing what you love doing, then make as many friends as you can, and enjoy it!

I leave you with this:

“I will not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
I will face my fear.
I will let it pass through me.
Where the fear has gone,
there shall be nothing.
Only I will remain.”

Find your path, megachris, find that THING that you love, pick it up and run like hell with it! F~~~ what other people think man, this is your life, this is your peace of mind we are talking about here! you have zero s~~~s, zero dams and zero f~~~s left to give, your f~~~ bag is empty, and god dammit, you are GOING to claim your happiness back ! I wish you the best in this venture megachris, and i hope and pray that you succeed.

your happiness is waiting out there, all you have to do, is stop caring, get off your arse and go get it.

My peace of mind is worth more then your vagina...cunt.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I have been the one at the end of a rope …. literally.

Two moths ago my friend got in the bath and slit his arms.

I now see both these acts as extremely selfish. Understandable but selfish.

Nether he nor I knew how much we would be missed or how much we were loved.

It has shaken me so much that I’ve had to throw myself into work and absorb the devastation one small bite at a time.

So please … take it from me …. it’s not you that will be left to deal with the mess.

Stuart has literally broken at least 200 others in his exit.

The f~~~er of it is ….. had us 200 told him we loved and cared …. he would have known … but we didn’t. We must bare some responsibility for that.

Women are NOT what you think they are. They used to be …. or they were made to hide their true nature by society.

Let’s get back to the lion shall we…..

Now the Jahova? Witnesses gave me a copy of Watch Tower mag. On the front was a lovely family sitting at a picnic in a field. Sat next to them was a lion.

There were stroking it …. because that’s what paradise looks like.

I laughed my ass off and while trying to explain what a crock that image was …. they walked off. They also walk off when I ask them where Noah got the trees for the ark.

Anyway ….. that’s where you are. You’re sitting with that family stroking the lion.

The real fact is they would never of got the picnic out before he …. and the lionesses had their picnic.

Women are not as you think. They are far far far far worse than advertised.

Don’t think you’re not loved … . You are. You’re looking in the wrong places. I lion will not love you.

Start with love for self then start elsewhere.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

What you are feeling is biological. We are animals and inherent in that is the need to reproduce. But as humans, a more highly developed animal species, we also have the social needs of companionship and physical touch. Brother, don’t deny your basic needs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with desiring the affection of an attractive pleasing female partner. But as many others have said – be careful. Women are deceitful by nature. They are programmed by evolution to “trap” the most desirable mate with the goal of producing the healthiest offspring and most security for herself and her children – and they will use all their “tricks” to do so. The hot ones KNOW they are hot – no matter how humble they may try to be. And they WILL use it EVERY time. If you learn how to get what YOU need out of it – without giving away the “family farm” so to speak – you will have fulfilled your needs. Avoid marriage, long term commitment to them and fulfill your rights as a man. Just remain in control.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I suppose the part that drives me the most nuts is the constant suicidal thoughts that come from the failure of such. I USUALLY come out of them, but sometimes they linger. I’ve gladly lowered my expectations of women (that is, not expected anything good of them). These emotional states come and go. I even realize DURING these feelings that the long term effects of a woman are NOT worth it, but I’m left talking to myself, asking “WHY am I feeling like this?”

RoyDal wrote:

@Megachris%,
Coincidentally, I am listening to this nutrition expert on the radio as I write. I searched his site for “depression” and this turned up. http://criticalhealthnews.com/health-news/ben-fuchs-health-nuggets-audio/129-depression

Funny enough, I actually tried what was called “Mind Calm” made by Tibetan Natural Healing, and over the course of a few DAYS, my anxiety was gone. That was bought at my local organic store. It worked wonders. Medications prescribed by doctors have strangely NEVER worked for me, or have worsened me. I’ve actually never felt suicidal thoughts over loneliness NEARLY as much as I have since I started taking those meds (and even after I stopped taking them over a year ago). I had moments that I FELT like it, but I never seriously CONSIDERED it like I did when I took ’em.

I may try this “Sam-E” that this guy is talking about in that link you sent me. Organic/herbal medication is usually much more expensive, but seeing how it ACTUALLY worked the first time I took it, I’d be willing to try another thing like it.

[Anonymous 11]

Hi MegaC:

You do have a very serious struggle going on within yourself. Depending on others for your inner content is never going to lead to a good outcome. I expect nothing from anyone until they are proven, That’s about a 2 year process for me.

My friend had those constant thoughts too. His doctor had him on Celexa an SSRI class drug for anxiety control. Suicidal thoughts are one of the known side effects of it. I’ll always wonder if that drug ever played a role too. Do watch whatever you take, and how it effects you.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Anonymous wrote:

Hi MegaC:

You do have a very serious struggle going on within yourself. Depending on others for your inner content is never going to lead to a good outcome. I expect nothing from anyone until they are proven, That’s about a 2 year process for me.

My friend had those constant thoughts too. His doctor had him on Celexa an SSRI class drug for anxiety control. Suicidal thoughts are one of the known side effects of it. I’ll always wonder if that drug ever played a role too. Do watch whatever you take, and how it effects you.

I’m not even sure WHY I sometimes feel in inner need to get some kind of validation. I guess it could be that I never really HAVE experienced any validation from women before (whether in my family or objects of my attraction). They were always either disappointed in me or using me for my resources and my time.

The psychiatrist I last saw in about July 2014 DID prescribe me to Celexa about 2 years ago or so. That’s EXACTLY when the thoughts started kicking in the hardest. I even went and gave my abusive ex-girlfriend my PlayStation 3 and games with it, as well as gave books to some friends of mine. I was giving my things away because I wasn’t planning on living much longer. These days, I’m not THAT upfront about it, but I definitely still think about it a lot. I can’t help but wonder if the Celexa left some kind of permanent damage on my mental state or something. It’s caused me to become more and more obsessive over things that I normally wouldn’t care about or even pay attention to.

[Anonymous 42]

@ Mega-C, I’ve known you for a while now, YOU’RE A NICE GUY! WOMEN> ARE> NOT!
KM’s right, LOWER your expectations and you can’t go wrong.
I’ve turned away a woman (child psychologist) because I instinctively new she wasn’t my friend. I was right! She found her man>gina, and do you think she remained friendly? NO hell f~~~ing NO! She won’t even look at me! Do I care? Ha Ha ha…. Me, “Mr. Care Free” caring? She could burst into flames for all I care!
Once you realize (as I have) no woman on this earth of three billion women will satisfy my simplest and most honest desire. Do you know what that desire is? I’ll tell you; to honestly and without stipulation to simply be loved.
Not asking for much is it? I know it’s simple and transparent, almost juvenile, but you know what, it’s vastly far to difficult of a task for a woman. Why? Because they’re focus is on them selves! They cannot give something they don’t posses! Their downfall is vanity, they’re empty hollow shells looking to be loved and worshiped all the time, ALL. THE. TIME!
Where is your slice, your piece, your accommodation in ALL. THE. TIME?
ALL. THE. TIME. does not include a parking space for Megachris% and his little “one minute” out of the day.
You still have some wires to tear out of your head!
It’s obvious there’s a link between women and your emotional state when rejected, or in her case, she completely ignores you!
My advice to solder some new connections; Do NOT look, speak, or so much as acknowledge her existence!
Play it out “forever” on her, if need be.
The mindf~~~ery of women knowns no bounds! Be a stone cold ROCK!
She’ll more than likely snap out of it with an arrogant remark like; what’s “his” problem?
Throw their own s~~~ back in their face and watch how fast they put you up for the adopted father of their bad behavior. A classic boomerang deflection back on you.
All said and done, in either event, I would remain somewhat cold to her, they need to be made accountable for their bad behavior, not FORGIVEN and let off free to do it all over again. A WALL must remain a WALL, and a MAN must remain a MAN!

[Anonymous 18]

Anonymous wrote:

His doctor had him on Celexa an SSRI class drug for anxiety control. Suicidal thoughts are one of the known side effects of it. I’ll always wonder if that drug ever played a role too.

In the context of depression the patient is too down to act on the thoughts of suicide.

Once the mood improves with medication there is enough ‘motivation’ to actually plan and execute a suicide.

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

Anonymous wrote:

I am sure you gonna get some expert advice by the chief attending physicians in their succinct and no BS manner. But in the interim let me speak my mind about your ’emotional void’ symptoms.

Megachris% wrote:

I can “take care of the deed myself” when I get in the mood but it just doesn’t feel the same as being able to actually FEEL someone else physically.

Knowing you and having read your posts here for a while, I am pretty convinced you have a solid grasp on the red pill mentality. A slip here and there when it comes to a woman’s charm just says that you are not gay. It’s natural. The desire is a hollow chamber that resonates more even with the slightest of stimulations, visual or otherwise. Lol. What you are describing sounds perfectly normal.

Megachris% wrote:

There’s just something about talk like that or completely ignoring me that infuriates me and for some reason makes me feel bored and tired of life in general.

While I agree and understand the feeling, I think you should frame this anger in the larger context. I feel you have somehow put this girl on a pedestal or given her importance she hasn’t earned or deserves. Her actions/reactions to you should have 0 correlation to how you feel about your LIFE. She likely doesn’t even know you exist outside of workplace. She has her life. You have yours. Unless she owes you money your life shouldn’t be affected the least by her actions. She is enjoying the “oppression’ of patriarchy by soaking in the attention and accolades due to her youth and looks. A man will never experience that. Unless he is Justin Bieber (#puke). So you can’t compare your life to hers and let it somehow define how she is better than you.

Megachris% wrote:

I’ve become a very “logic over emotions” kind of guy over the span of this year, but I guess I have my moments, still, know what I mean? Kinda makes me feel like a hypocrite.

It’s biology. The thing with these emotions or needs is they will be there as long as you pay attention to them. There was a time in my life I didn’t jerk off for 4 months. And it was hard for 2 weeks. Then I hit the gym whenever I felt like it or distracted myself. I got ripped and grew 3x my scrawny size. Desires are meant to be f~~~ed with. Ask any successful man.

Megachris% wrote:

If I knew doing something like a vasectomy would kill this urge, or if I could get that part of my lizard brain removed, I would.

It may seem like a solution. But the tougher and more worthy route would be to come on top of these feelings. How you do that I can’t tell you. One blanket statement is to keep busy and do things that you enjoy. But I know I have been there where its hard to do anything but wish for some pussy love. But how I overcome these feelings now is I have set goals that I chase. From time to time, I get pure lazy and procrastinate like hell. But those goals are nagging and are in my head. There is something very powerful about fighting against the biological urge and once you come out on the other side it provides a sense of purpose. Builds character strength.

Where I am now, any blue pill man would be high on his thirst meter, but I had an acquaintance text me yesterday afternoon to meet for coffee and make out. Her words. I said no.

All day today, I feel like a f~~~ing boss.

A vasectomy does not kill the urge.

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