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This will sound overtly emotional, but hear me out. I feel like I just need some people to talk to, and not some woman-biased psychiatrist. Just need to vent for a second, I suppose.
Women cause me to feel suicidal.
Why, exactly?
There’s not another creature on the planet that confirms my confidence about myself one minute, then the next she’s gone and gives NO explanation why, which shoots me down to feeling insignificant.
Then again, this could just be ’cause in a “funk,” if you will. I haven’t been intimate with anyone in over a year now. I mean, I can “take care of the deed myself” when I get in the mood but it just doesn’t feel the same as being able to actually FEEL someone else physically.
Attractive women have this constant habit of coming up to me to get to know me, and then completely vanishing off the radar. I know that some Red Piller guys like to remind me that she’s “screwing someone else because I bored her” or something, but it still annoys me to no end. It feels like an absolute waste of time getting to know someone and then she just stops talking to me, or she says something that absolutely turns me off from her (like a girl saying “I’ve got several guys I could choose from to sleep with and I might just need one of them to get me off.” There’s just something about talk like that or completely ignoring me that infuriates me and for some reason makes me feel bored and tired of life in general.
[EDIT: I should say that I have ideas of what I want to DO with life, but those goals feel so unobtainable a lot of the time and I really don’t know what to do with myself. I want to feel good physically, emotionally, and financially. I feel miserable about all three with slight improvements to the physical and financial realms.]
The girl I posted about last month (the 19 year old I work with) completely ignores me now. Doesn’t say a word to me. It REALLY bothers me for some reason. I’m thankful at the same time, since she’s a WORK-related acquaintance so nothing should happen anyway. But seeing her walk past me every few minutes of every day just drives me a little mad on the inside. Heck, if I had a desk AWAY from where she works where I can’t see her or pick up that danged good smell she has, I’d be content. (I’m actually borrowing a co-worker’s workspace to concentrate more while she’s gone for a few weeks. Helps me catch up on work better, too.) It’s a blessing and a curse not hearing from her anymore.
I KNOW. I shouldn’t get emotional about or attached to this stuff. I’ve become a very “logic over emotions” kind of guy over the span of this year, but I guess I have my moments, still, know what I mean? Kinda makes me feel like a hypocrite.
I’m not expecting a woman to “jump on my lap” because they feel bad for me or anything, heck no. I suppose it’s my male friends I hear about having a grand time with their woman in bed with ’em. I know that technically means I’M not having to worry about blowing a lot of money on a woman (and I DEFINITELY know these guys are). I know this means I’ll be financially stable later in life. I’m already almost debt-free for the first time since I got into debt several years back. I’ve got good things ahead. I just can’t help but feel sometimes that stupid emotional void is still there.
If I knew doing something like a vasectomy would kill this urge, or if I could get that part of my lizard brain removed, I would. I don’t want it there; it just makes me absolutely miserable a lot of the time.
Don’t get to down on yourself.
If I may make an observation. It sounds to me that you have the desire for the companionship (pair bonding?) of a woman. Being a MGHOW doesn’t somehow anoint a man to be immune to a need, either emotional or physical, that could only be satisfied by a woman. A sane woman that is.
Physical affection, not just sex, actually releases serotonin in the brain and brings about feelings of well being. It also promotes pair bonding. The male orgasm releases the amount of endorphin in the brain that is equivalent to a hit of heroin. Human behavior that involves personal preservation and species propagation is tied to the pleasure center of the human brain. Feels good to eat when you are hungry doesn’t it? So passing on sex and companionship is also passing on behavior that MAY brings about feelings of well being and pleasure.
Cardio can cause the release of endorphins. The runner’s high.
Knowledge of self brings about power.
But don’t be afraid to be honest with yourself if companionship is what you need. Just don’t let the little head do all of the thinking.
As to this woman at work that you find to be distracting. You may or not be this kind of person, but for me an evening with a different woman has always cleared that up for me.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
Anonymous18I am sure you gonna get some expert advice by the chief attending physicians in their succinct and no BS manner. But in the interim let me speak my mind about your ’emotional void’ symptoms.
I can “take care of the deed myself” when I get in the mood but it just doesn’t feel the same as being able to actually FEEL someone else physically.
Knowing you and having read your posts here for a while, I am pretty convinced you have a solid grasp on the red pill mentality. A slip here and there when it comes to a woman’s charm just says that you are not gay. It’s natural. The desire is a hollow chamber that resonates more even with the slightest of stimulations, visual or otherwise. Lol. What you are describing sounds perfectly normal.
There’s just something about talk like that or completely ignoring me that infuriates me and for some reason makes me feel bored and tired of life in general.
While I agree and understand the feeling, I think you should frame this anger in the larger context. I feel you have somehow put this girl on a pedestal or given her importance she hasn’t earned or deserves. Her actions/reactions to you should have 0 correlation to how you feel about your LIFE. She likely doesn’t even know you exist outside of workplace. She has her life. You have yours. Unless she owes you money your life shouldn’t be affected the least by her actions. She is enjoying the “oppression’ of patriarchy by soaking in the attention and accolades due to her youth and looks. A man will never experience that. Unless he is Justin Bieber (#puke). So you can’t compare your life to hers and let it somehow define how she is better than you.
I’ve become a very “logic over emotions” kind of guy over the span of this year, but I guess I have my moments, still, know what I mean? Kinda makes me feel like a hypocrite.
It’s biology. The thing with these emotions or needs is they will be there as long as you pay attention to them. There was a time in my life I didn’t jerk off for 4 months. And it was hard for 2 weeks. Then I hit the gym whenever I felt like it or distracted myself. I got ripped and grew 3x my scrawny size. Desires are meant to be f~~~ed with. Ask any successful man.
If I knew doing something like a vasectomy would kill this urge, or if I could get that part of my lizard brain removed, I would.
It may seem like a solution. But the tougher and more worthy route would be to come on top of these feelings. How you do that I can’t tell you. One blanket statement is to keep busy and do things that you enjoy. But I know I have been there where its hard to do anything but wish for some pussy love. But how I overcome these feelings now is I have set goals that I chase. From time to time, I get pure lazy and procrastinate like hell. But those goals are nagging and are in my head. There is something very powerful about fighting against the biological urge and once you come out on the other side it provides a sense of purpose. Builds character strength.
Where I am now, any blue pill man would be high on his thirst meter, but I had an acquaintance text me yesterday afternoon to meet for coffee and make out. Her words. I said no.
All day today, I feel like a f~~~ing boss.
Oh, brother, you got a lot of feeeeeel in that post! Don’t get me wrong, emotions are an integral part of being human and without them we’d be fish, But emotions are susceptible to the ego, that monkey who’ll do anything for attention or aprobation and often thinks with the “wrong head”.
Going your way and realising that your feeeeelings are nothing but a momentary short circuit between your brain and your b~~~~, caused by certain rising desires of acceptance and ego-stroking is a sure way to move forward and look at those thoughts as passing clouds.
Once you’re back down on earth it isn’t difficult to see how irrelevant your feeeeelings are, faced with the cold hard truth that is our present world.
Cheers, MegaChris!Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Thanks guys, fantastic commentary as always. Already lifted me a lot mood-wise.
…a need, either emotional or physical, that could only be satisfied by a woman. A sane woman that is.
That’s the toughest part of all. A sane woman seems to be even harder to find than a “diamond in the rough.”
Physical affection, not just sex, actually releases serotonin in the brain and brings about feelings of well being. It also promotes pair bonding. The male orgasm releases the amount of endorphin in the brain that is equivalent to a hit of heroin. Human behavior that involves personal preservation and species propagation is tied to the pleasure center of the human brain. Feels good to eat when you are hungry doesn’t it? So passing on sex and companionship is also passing on behavior that MAY brings about feelings of well being and pleasure.
Cardio can cause the release of endorphins. The runner’s high.
YES. I like hearing about this kind of stuff for some reason, it’s interer! I know there were biological reasons for these kinds of things, and benefits as well. It’s always interesting to hear about that.
I feel you have somehow put this girl on a pedestal or given her importance she hasn’t earned or deserves. Her actions/reactions to you should have 0 correlation to how you feel about your LIFE. She likely doesn’t even know you exist outside of workplace. She has her life. You have yours. Unless she owes you money your life shouldn’t be affected the least by her actions. She is enjoying the “oppression’ of patriarchy by soaking in the attention and accolades due to her youth and looks. A man will never experience that. Unless he is Justin Bieber (#puke). So you can’t compare your life to hers and let it somehow define how she is better than you.
That’s actually very accurate. I may have mentally put her on a pedestal (one thing I’m horrible at doing even now, admittedly). I’ve found completely ignoring her and not even LOOKING at her (that means not checking her out as she walks away too LOL) kind of helps me forget about her. The only thing that doesn’t help now is that scent I pick up off of her. It’s like a fragging CHEMICAL or something. Wonder if it’s something companies put into women’s perfume or something. Now I’m sounding conspiratorial, aren’t I? LOL
There is something very powerful about fighting against the biological urge and once you come out on the other side it provides a sense of purpose. Builds character strength.
That’s a very good point, too. Having not slept with anyone in a year and still being alive has kind of told me I CAN be just fine without it. Just from time to time it really stinks. I may consider just working out hardcore to get it off my mind. Sometimes tiring myself out makes me forget about it.
Once you’re back down on earth it isn’t difficult to see how irrelevant your feeeeelings are, faced with the cold hard truth that is our present world.
That’s exactly how I feeeeeeeeel! 😛 After I’m out of the “funk” I’m in, I’m generally thinking “why the heck did I think that way? That’s so stupid!”
Anonymous11MegaC: You are striking very close to me here.
My longest known male friend was hypersensitive the 40 years I knew him. He lost his job. His wife died. He floundered trying to replace her. He was addicted to women,
I got to be the lucky guy that notified authorities. When you hear the cliche “suicide is the most selfish thing one can do”, it’s not a cliche. He devastated so many who cared about him co-workers, friends and family all paid a huge price.
Take red pills. Women cause you to feel suicidal. You must cease to associate with women no matter how strongly you feel.
Do you want to know the thing I regret most about my buddy? Not badgering his ass to get professional help for his suicidal talk. I have to live with this guilt the rest of my life.
Would it have worked for me to have said anything? Who really knows, but I would have known I tried. I cannot say that.
For you I will say, forget your “woman-based” therapist fears get your f~~~ing ass into therapy stat. Do it for your family! Do it for everyone in your life!
There really are a few Unicorns here and there. I actually know a few sprinkled around, You will never meet one by doing that.
I for one, like to cuddle, hold, and be held. I’ve never been to one of those Meetup ‘cuddle parties’ or similar, but can see the allure. Human touch feels great, to me, at least. Guess I’m one of those ‘sensitive men’, haha.
I think you should be proud of what you’ve achieved in the last year, you won’t reach all your goals instantly but you’ve made progress.
Also consider a friend with benefits — just avoid the Marriage contract. I still have that with my ex-wife. It works great. We enjoy each others’ company. But we didn’t work well living together in a marriage. I wanted a bunch of goals and she preferred to stay at home and relax, though she did not spend money on anything.
As for sanity, 99% of hot girls are not sane! Remember the hot-crazy chart!
Also, I would check if your insurance covers counseling. Mine does, and it’s COMPLETELY confidential, they will even do telephone counseling. Try it. Just talking to someone may help.
That was a point I forgot to bring up that is very important here.
Take red pills. Women cause you to feel suicidal. You must cease to associate with women no matter how strongly you feel.
Disassociation from them right now is hard, considering I see attractive women literally every day at work (being at a university I see them everywhere, not just co-workers). It’s a tough thing to be around. I’ve withstood it for 2 years so far, but the craving is only worsened when I’m around them. When I’m at home, I’m at peace the most. Away from women, focus on myself, my books, my video games, and the pets that love me (is it sad to say I feel more loved by my cat, praying mantis, and scorpion more than I’ve ever felt by a woman?).
Once you’re back down on earth it isn’t difficult to see how irrelevant your feeeeelings are, faced with the cold hard truth that is our present world.
That’s exactly how I feeeeeeeeel! ? After I’m out of the “funk” I’m in, I’m generally thinking “why the heck did I think that way? That’s so stupid!”
Calling it “stupid” is in itself a cop out. You are far from stupid. I take things that can potentially drive me over the precipice very seriously and emotions are right up there on the list, just under T~~~s and Manginas.
They are useful, but only very rarely.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!
Anonymous11Disassociation from them right now is hard,
It’s very, very hard. Even battle hardened cold tough CPig has the same feelings.
(is it sad to say I feel more loved by my cat, praying mantis, and scorpion more than I’ve ever felt by a woman?).
Yes, I know exactly how you feel. My bitchy Calico cat that I inherited from my Mother shows me more loyalty than any woman has ever shown me. My various laying hens over the years have loved me more.
Hormones and our natural wants and desires make those feelings appear, It’s normal to feel like that. Women are the problem not you. Control how you respond to those feelings. Do things you like to do. You admit it takes your mind away from them. Do them even more. Feel no guilt.
You are the most important thing you have.
I’m more concerned that you’re depressed over this. That’s why if you’re having these thoughts a professional is who you need to consult.
I’m not bulls~~~ting. We like your posts. They must continue.
I never wrote that, CP! Ha haa!
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!When I hit my lowest of lows, I like to lie down on my bed and listen to the most beautiful music I have. After I’ve had a good cry, I get up and usually feel much better. Like anger, sadness needs an outlet as well.
Anonymous11I never wrote that, CP! Ha haa!
It’s an intermittent bug used to throw me too.
Just to put this out there some women actually want you to feel like killing yourself.
Anonymous18When I hit my lowest of lows, I like to lie down on my bed and listen to the most beautiful music I have. After I’ve had a good cry, I get up and usually feel much better. Like anger, sadness needs an outlet as well.
I know its perhaps not manly to even admit this. But I have cried my eyes out once I found out the REAL deal love is. The one sidedness of it all is something ONLY a man can grasp. To not be a red pill from there on is the real misogyny – to oneself.
And all the feminist t~~~s reading this, go ahead publish that f~~~ing quote in your MGTOW are women-hater abusive assholes articles. We are men with real emotions and the guts to stand for what we believe in. I know it will soon be an aphrodisiac but cranking that wrench clockwise while crouching under the kitchen sink is more satisfactory than fingering your wet pussy in the car in front of coffee shops (she was a good friend). Enjoy the real abusive c~~~ in your mouth that forgets to return your calls, lolz.
emotions are temporary megachris ..you know that . a good f~~~-buddy or friend w benefits is a wonderful thing ! a massage can be worth every bit it costs ..with or without the happy ending !..us humans have a need , not just a desire to touch and be touched ..it’s o.k. to get that SOMEWHERE ! i had a friend who would go to strip clubs and instead of lap-dances he would request a neck-rub ! he called his need ” skin-hunger ” i understand brother ..don’t worry too much about it , and remember , never hurt yourself , hurt OTHERS instead ! .yes ..i am SERIOUS !
@Megachris% there is a mental exercise I use to break the Sirens’ spell. Every time I have someone’s charms mess with my head – I imagine being blind and deaf. And then I think – would I had the same reaction to this woman if I never saw what she looked like? Usually, the answer is no. That’s how I remove the pedestal.
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Disassociation from them right now is hard,
It’s very, very hard. Even battle hardened cold tough CPig has the same feelings.
I just meant “hard” as in it’s almost impossible to find a place these days where women AREN’T. This site is about the only one! 😛 But in a way, it CAN be tough as well…they ARE still at least aesthetically pleasing. But getting away from them can’t really happen…unless I work at a funeral home or somewhere that has nothing but old ladies. -__- THEN my mind wouldn’t be anywhere NEAR as tempted and obsessive as it is.
i had a friend who would go to strip clubs and instead of lap-dances he would request a neck-rub !
Ya know, that’s actually kind of genius. I may consider that.
there is a mental exercise I use to break the Sirens’ spell. Every time I have someone’s charms mess with my head – I imagine being blind and deaf. And then I think – would I had the same reaction to this woman if I never saw what she looked like? Usually, the answer is no. That’s how I remove the pedestal.
This is good. This is VERY GOOD. I may consider trying that…though I’ll also add in imagining that I lack a sense of SMELL too. -___-
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