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I wasn’t born one but I’ve become a cold-blooded MF’er.
Yup. What Ranger said.
You can measure and observe the different men on this site. There’s a scale. It’s why I say that MGTOW is sort of like a philosophical journey. Because we’re all different ages at different points on the scale.
Some are young and naive, still on the fence, watching that Unicorn run the prairie, she’s beckoning them! LOL They think she can be caught and domesticated. These men think they can even steal a ride and escape uninjured. PUAs, MRAs and Romantics often have rose-colored goggles on.
Some are mid-age here like me, who’ve been bruised and bucked just enough, seeing stars; we found the red pill accidentally and like a pitcher of red Koolaid, we slammed that red-drink down. Women’s charade has been revealed. Only a few of us in our 30’s have kids, I dodged that bullet by pure luck, seen a few abortions and miscarriages but I mostly left the battlefield intact.
And finally, the older guys here, 40 and up! Post divorce or still married. The Fathers here! The guy’s who know it all because they lived it! The divorce, the child custody battle, the false domestic violence phone call, the ruthless agony and unconscionable depths of female malice… they’ve been through it firsthand. These are also the guy’s who know women so well, it amazes us younger guys because we really haven’t been married to one long term like that.
As a younger guy, I’ve never lived with a woman past a few months. I have no idea what being married to one is like. I have no children. I don’t know what it’s like. I also don’t know what its like to be a 45 year old male and being chased by these harpies and dealing with that threat up close and personal, knowing full well that one false step could be fatal.
But I can read. And not only have I learned a ton about women in the last 5 years. But I learned a lot about MEN. I grew up a little and was mentored in a way by the older guys here. Just reading what they say has revealed much to me. To them, I say thank you!This. Same has happened to me, and to be quite honest, I am not a “finished” product yet, since I get surprised from time to time about a new thought or about a new opinion that shed even more light over something.
I constantly think that I am somehow “broken”, because I can’t feel any “love”, besides filial and brotherly love. I can’t feel a damn thing for a woman, and believe me, I tried. HARD. My father sometimes still tell me that being too much alone is a bad thing.
I don’t really know, but I am determined to find out.But, as Gravel, I left the battlefield almost untouched. No kids, no wife. No divorce, never had any interaction with the Family court on my case, never been financially raped by a woman. Is it that bad, to have dodged that bullet? I don’t think so, but still, I quite don’t get it why many men want to be shot.
My heart is not a prize, as it was never up to be won or something. I gave it, willingly, and it got smashed by those who did not know what to do with it. And that was the most valuable lesson that I could have learned, my whole life.
Jesus once said: Never cast pearls to the swine… So never cast your heart to anybody, but yourself.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
I wasn’t born one but I’ve become a cold-blooded MF’er.
Many paths to self-actualization. This ^^^ is one that I can identify with.
ghost any which show a single bad sign
This statement is the golden rule to live by. Who said it – one life/one chance/one something???
I know I discounted so many red flags. Because I was strong. There was nothing that I couldn’t handle. How could it hurt me?
What an asshat… but that was then.
Beware the bad signs. Even just one.
Anonymous38Comes back to the old logic, the longer a man is left free the more he gets to experience and enjoy said freedom and observe in his fellows the consequences of giving up that freedom for “love” therefore the harder it will be for any woman to tempt him into giving up that freedom.
So true. Great post.
This statement is the golden rule to live by. Who said it – one life/one chance/one something???
I know I discounted so many red flags. Because I was strong. There was nothing that I couldn’t handle. How could it hurt me?
One chance, per woman, per lifetime. Exactly, the ‘good man’ thing is putting up with her s~~~, ‘compromising’ and other bulls~~~. No. Certain things are permissible (all women are emotional), but once she shows you disrespect, the relationship is over and you’re simply wasting your life by staying in it.
The ‘relationship’, and note the use of inverted commas, is only a relationship, that is it is only contingent, upon her feeling like she wants to be with you. Basically she’s keeping you around while there’s nothing better. Lol.
Merry Christmas to you as well gravel pit.
Alpha = log 5 (base 4) = 1.16; Pareto distribution.
Mathematical way of saying the 80:20 “f~~~ rule” applies.Since the odds are you are one of the 80% this math applies to most of us.
I’m learning the ways of alpha behavior, since behavior is not singular and can be transformed. Then again, the mere fact we are older and have a pulse puts us on the “rarity” list.Put it another way.. why would any self-respecting alpha spend even one minute of his time on f~~~book?
That’s not where alpha lives!Great post about locking your heart but it is more about using your brains. Also laws have only worsened and Newton’s laws have never changed…so what do women expect? (of course an equal and opposite reaction!)
L. Euler
Merry Christmas to you as well gravel pit.Alpha = log 5 (base 4) = 1.16; Pareto distribution.Mathematical way of saying the 80:20 “f~~~ rule” applies.
Since the odds are you are one of the 80% this math applies to most of us.I’m learning the ways of alpha behavior, since behavior is not singular and can be transformed. Then again, the mere fact we are older and have a pulse puts us on the “rarity” list.
Put it another way.. why would any self-respecting alpha spend even one minute of his time on f~~~book?That’s not where alpha lives!
Great post about locking your heart but it is more about using your brains. Also laws have only worsened and Newton’s laws have never changed…so what do women expect? (of course an equal and opposite reaction!)
L. EulerThe problem with an “alpha” is that he is ALSO a slave, to women and society. Everyone expects the alpha to sacrifice, to be as they are, and to lead.
Here, you will fin nothing, but a bunch of “zetas”, if that even applies, for those kinds of “brandings” are stupid, to say the least.So, don’t be a slave. Be your own man, go your own way, not the way others expect you to be.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
To L. Euler. I don’t subscribe to “alpha & Beta terminology” I understand what people mean when they use these terms but I don’t use them myself for the same reason I dont use the term INCEL. The definitions are too shaky.
Yes, some men get laid easier and with a higher standard of pussy. The primo-puss. Based on his personality, the way a man present’s himself, his height, his money etc…
But in the same respect, women are also on a spectrum from Super Model to Rosie O’Donnell…. Sure, women control sex and get to bang men above their weight class… HOWEVER, there is a noticeable scale. Fatties with fatties, disabled with disabled, rich with rich, etc… Women get to date one level up, but it’s still true in general, like for like. And only to a point, will a fat bitch get to date a good looking male.
You can study PUA tactics endlessly. And you can be born into wealth, be 6ft tall, and basically be Sky-O for example, but that is no guarantee of getting laid… It helps, but I just can’t subscribe to the labels… there are too many variables to toss people into “alpha beta” camps.
What about the “Metas” ? or Zetas (as Kenshi wrote) or the others … its never-ending. And while all women display hypergamy (AWALT) they are not all cookie-cut-outs. Some are quite brainy, some are dumb as a rock… some beautiful and smart… or any combination… Its not one size fits all. That is why (among many reasons) Incel is a fake term… even DOWN syndrome folks get laid… Missing half your face from war? No problem, there is a fat-slob woman that loves your disability money and will suck your dick, for life. She will marry and stay with you for access to a free check…
I’ve seen rural America, don’t tell me INCEL is credible. LOL
Just humorously quibbling here, no outrage …
To Dark Kenshi. We escaped the Battlefield with mainly bruised emotions and a healthy dose of caution. But here in MGTOW we learned where we would have ended up. We learned from them, there is no doubt about it.
And in time, when we reach 40 and 50 years of age. When our Sexual Marketplace Value is peaking hard. We will know better because these men taught us the G-damn truth!
There is no way I would have been this secure going into my prime. Without the insights from the men here and MGTOW truths ingeneral, I would still be out there trying to settle for a fat girl, trying to get her to love me LOL. So delusional
Id be a pig led to slaughter any day now. I was spared miraculously. I had the where-with-all to type into Youtube one day, “why are women all assholes?” … I stumbled into Sandman and Karen Straughn videos LOL. Then I found Stardusk and s~~~ got real!
I look forward to getting some A-Grade pussy (just because she thinks Im rich and wants to play me). I will be a catch.
But little do they know, I will be uncatchable.
Im not a PUA or CHad by any means. I do not go looking for it.
But thanks to MGTOW and the older men here, I know that my SMV will increase… I know they will come looking for me. And I will be ready.
Who said it – one life/one chance/one something???
I believe it was K M and it’s worth repeating as often as needed:
“One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.“
Just rolling down the road
Have you ever considered it takes longer than 33 years to become a man of real worth?
Back in the day though young women would marry young men because they had potential, and they’d actually build a life together. When I look at my grandparents as an example, my grandfather was 22 and grandmother 20 when they got married. By the time they were mid 30s they had hit many milestones together…bought a house, had kids, vacations, cars, starting to invest for the future, etc.
What do you get these days when the post wall c~~~ wants to get married? You buy the house and start to invest for the future, meanwhile she’ll had blown all her money(and dug a mountain of debt) for the vacations and cars, probably has a mountain of student debt for a junk degree that helped her get a low paying job she hates(or even if she makes alright money most of them want to stop working once a kid comes along if you make enough to support them), has a high mileage snatch, and if you are lucky hasn’t already popped out kids with someone else?
It didn’t take me longer than 33 years to become a man of real worth, I’ve always been a man of real worth, its the modern woman that isn’t interested in being a team player. They want to have fun and ride the carousel in their 20s, think Prince Charming will give them everything they wanted in their 30s, and then reserve the right to divorce rape on a whim if Prince Charming is stupid enough to put a ring on it. Odds are…that divorce will be coming, and if it doesn’t she might stay with you but there is a good chance she just turns into a land whale with a nasty attitude you’d be much better off without. The bait was tempting in my early to mid 20s, but what they fail to realize is in their late 20s or early 30s they hit the wall, and the bait spoils. I’m not much different than I was 10 years ago, but the women my age certainly are, and they haven’t changed for the better.
Anonymous38You can study PUA tactics endlessly. And you can be born into wealth, be 6ft tall, and basically be Sky-O for example, but that is no guarantee of getting laid… It helps, but I just can’t subscribe to the labels… there are too many variables to toss people into “alpha beta” camps.
You can study all the tricks and still be hopeless. In my experience, the most important aspect is just having a certain attitude which makes women want you. That attitude is being very calm around women, and not wanting them. If you can do that, you’ll always have sexual options. That puts you above 99% of men, and signals to her you’re some kind of ‘alpha’. Being MGTOW helps in this regard because you don’t fawn over women. But you must get over your fear of them, as well.
For me, it’s not a matter of my heart being cold, or that I’m not attracted to woman, or not that I still don’t have the occasional NAWALT/Unicorn Delusion but, it’s more about just not having the energy, desire, motivation, drive to actually follow through on it as I AM STILL LIVING THROUGH the Blue Pill Delusion of “marriage”.
I get regular doses of what these lil cupcakes TRANSFORM into AFTER marriage.
There’s NOT a day hat goes by that I just don’t look at this woman that calls herself my wife and I don’t ask myself, “Who the hell are you, and what did you do with the woman that I married??”
Yeah, I just had enough of all of em when it comes to anything vaguely related to a “relationship”………..
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Anonymous38The problem with an “alpha” is that he is ALSO a slave, to women and society. Everyone expects the alpha to sacrifice, to be as they are, and to lead.
Not necessarily. The problem there is that you’re accepting the gynocracy’s definition of ‘alpha’.
Who cares what whoever expects you to do? As MGTOW we don’t care.
Being MGTOW, (genuinely) not caring, not living in fear etc, looking out for yourself and those you care about and living fully – that is alpha, to me at least. I could care less what anyone else, least of all a matrix dweller, considers ‘alpha’.
Gravel,
My only regret is that I have not knew about the Red Pill and MGTOW ealier on.
If I did, it would have saved me a ton of headaches, but it also makes me wonder some things:Would I have accepted MGTOW, before I actually was actively looking for it?
Would I have accepted the gifts of monk mode, when I perhaps was not ready for it?
Would I have taken the Red Pill, when my system was still blue pill as hell, and I had not seen the world and society for what they really are?To those questions, the only answer that I can come up with is: “No”…
And yet, MGTOW has been the most liberating experience I’ve ever had. I dreamt with such freedom. I regret that to achieve it and to know it, took a damn long time, and it came during the darkest of hours.
Exactly when it was needed? Maybe.
Still, MGTOW is my path, and I shall keep it."Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
The problem with an “alpha” is that he is ALSO a slave, to women and society. Everyone expects the alpha to sacrifice, to be as they are, and to lead.
Not necessarily. The problem there is that you’re accepting the gynocracy’s definition of ‘alpha’.
Who cares what whoever expects you to do? As MGTOW we don’t care.
Being MGTOW, (genuinely) not caring, not living in fear etc, looking out for yourself and those you care about and living fully – that is alpha, to me at least. I could care less what anyone else, least of all a matrix dweller, considers ‘alpha’.Interesting, Taoist.
Still, the definition did not came from the “gynocracy”, but from the observation of Nature itself.
It is derived from wolves… And in that, From Alpha to Omega, everyone has a function, everyone has a specific role to fulfill.
Not Zetas. They are the lone wolves, they are the most dangerous and powerful off all the wolves, because they don’t need a pack.So, the definition I am using is the scientific one, hence why my disregard to such as we are humans (therefore we will not fit into that perfectly), not wolves. And yet, sometimes it fits into the description of the roles that the gynocracy has defined to everyone around.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Anonymous1Well said Gravel Pit.
There is a window of time when a woman can win a Man’s Heart. Once the man reaches about the age of 30 it becomes almost impossible. In my case I have spent all of my adult life single. I have spent most of my time in solitude. When I was in my early twenties I could have easily fallen for any number of Women that would have given me the time of day.
After years of solitude I have discovered that I really don’t need women. Once that fact has been learned it can never be unlearned. Why in the hell would I want a woman in my life? That ship sailed a long time ago.
The funny thing is that there is a ton of 30 year old women with Baby Rabies that want me now. I express no interest in dating and I am completely apathetic towards them. That’s what happens…I’m married to the Sciences now and follow the example of Nikola Tesla my personal hero.
not caring, not living in fear, looking out for yourself and those you care about and living fully – that is alpha, to me
I like that definition from MGTaoist. PUAs highjacked “alpha” from being a Greek letter… they want it to mean, ‘man who melts pussy just by entering a room.’
I like the term Chad. To me, thats all PUAs are, a bunch of Chads. Nothing indignant or praiseworthy, just Chad *keeping Vag serviced since… That’s all they are, the oil changers of Vag. Nothing bad about that, it is what it is.
To those questions, the only answer that I can come up with is: “No”…
I agree to all those. The red pill is invisible until your eyes have been flushed with tears. And even then, it took years of accepting the implications of what we now knew about women. My definition of Red Pill here, is basically understanding women’s Evo Psych (basically the Stardusk Compilation). You don’t just get dumped, cry for a week and listen to the Stardusk Compilation and everything is all better. Nope. That’s just the beginning part LOL.
And how long is that road, and the rewards it gives, is what makes it all worthy.
A man can devote all of his energy into being the best MGHOW he can, and still have a s~~~load of energy to put on top of it.MGTOW to me is like climbing the Everest, with the exception that on the top of that Everest, there is another K2. You never stop climbing, for there is never a top of the mountain to reach.
And among all that climbing, pure silence, pure bliss. No woman, no kids, nothing dragging me down. Nothing to make me stray off the path I chose to myself.
If life can get better than GMOW, I don’t want it.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
There is a window of time when a woman can win a Man’s Heart.
Thanks, your quote is the whole point of this thread. There are many men’s hearts on the loose. We got away, a whole generation of us. And the likelihood of today’s skanks being able to capture those millions of unclaimed hearts, probably not…
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