Have you learned anything positive from a woman in a professional setting?

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

In my experience, I haven’t learned much. I had my share of nasty bosses and coworkers of both sexes, although the women seem a bit worse. But when switching jobs, the good or hard time you’ve had is not of much relevance, it becomes a thing of the past. What does matter though is what skills or experience you’ve gained on that job, since these may help your future career.

So I’d like to discuss if working with women or for a woman puts you at a disadvantage from this point of view.

In my case, I’ve learned more from an average guy in a couple of months than from the best female boss I’ve had in a couple of years.

I think this is because men share experience, strategies, their thinking process when decision making and planning. They are cold and calculated. Decisions are usually based on facts and past experience.

Women always have trouble to some degree with the above. Some are better than others. But what I’ve seen is that even these, often don’t share everything they think and know. They don’t see that as facts and experience, they see it as secrets; and they don’t treat you as a coworker, but a potential competitor. So you only get bits and pieces of info, mixed up with opinions, emotions and instincts, plus the occasional distorted facts or outright lies (because they often make masked political decisions that only serve themselves, not the team or the company). Because of all of this, it is hard to learn anything when working with/for a woman.

It is only anecdotal. My experience. YMMV. But I keep seeing this general pattern. In the future I think I’m going to avoid such jobs.

What do you guys think?

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Anonymous 42]

I had to think on that one, NO!

On second thought they’ve costed me production time and their choices are not logically motivated, they want fried ice. S~~~ you not! NEVER EVER LET A WOMAN DESIGN A HOUSE OR SELECT THE LAND! The offsite sewage trucking disposal charges alone will kill you!

[Anonymous 11]

I’ve learned not to act like a c~~~ to others from them.

[AttonParticipant]

Men by their very brain structure are more thing oriented. In the context of doing things this would likely work in your favor.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 0]

I had to attend a training course to teach us how to ‘cold call’ customers. The one and only thing I learned was to not say “I am JUST calling you to….” as just trivialises it. While this was said by a woman, she was working to a script she might not have written (I will give her the benefit of the doubt though)

My entire working carrier has been in a male dominated industry (builder/plumbing merchant) there have been a few women having a go, particularly in the last decade with the old “look how clever and diverse we are” mentality which is playing a part in killing the trade industry. In all those years I have only ever worked with two that I would even consider employing.
One of said women (who outranked me) once asked me in reference to my stack of business cards on the trade counter
“Are you not worried customers are going to use them to write notes on”
To her credit, once I told her that said notes with my number on ended up in their pockets/wallets and went away with them, she got.

With time to think, that’s the best I can come up with.

[Anonymous 25]

I’ve learned their emotions rule their heads. They are best avoided as much as possible

[Anonymous 0]

You might have an advantage because women’s responses are almost predictable if you’ve read the information here and in a few good books.

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

My entire working carrier has been in a male dominated industry

Women talk like that!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 0]

MACHO wrote:

Nosvic wrote:

My entire working carrier has been in a male dominated industry

Women talk like that!

If you’re not familiar with the plumbing/heating industry then I can confirm it’s even now still mostly filled with men.

How else would you describe it?

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

How else would you describe it?

Macho ain’t going to perfect your male lingo!

You told me to man up in a previous thread ! Mistake!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

How else would you describe it?

Anonymous wrote:

My entire working carrier has been in a male dominated industry

Gynocentric cringes at the word MAN.

They’ll say “dominated by women” and through the chastising of political correctness they’d prefer we say “male dominated” instead of “dominated by MEN”.

Princeton University BANNED the word MAN yet they kept the word WOMAN!

See what I mean, MAN…

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Yes i’ve learned something, but it’s not positive. I’ve learned a dark energy follows them everywhere they go, especially the workplace. The energy can only be described as changing from peace to anxious the moment they walk in the door, because here comes the bulls~~~.

[Anonymous 42]

Antipathy wrote:

Yes i’ve learned something, but it’s not positive. I’ve learned a dark energy follows them everywhere they go, especially the workplace. The energy can only be described as changing from peace to anxious the moment they walk in the door, because here comes the bulls~~~.

Walking on eggshells soon to be broken glass!

NO THANKS! I’m not living it! They can roll around in their own broken glass and bleed to death for all I care!

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Gynocentric cringes at the word MAN.
They’ll say “dominated by women” and through the chastising of political correctness they’d prefer we say “male dominated” instead of “dominated by MEN”.
Princeton University BANNED the word MAN yet they kept the word WOMAN!
See what I mean, MAN

👍👍🍺🍺😎

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 0]

MACHO wrote:

Nosvic wrote:

How else would you describe it?

Macho ain’t going to perfect your male lingo!

You told me to man up in a previous thread ! Mistake!

Go back and reread that thread and read all of my quote not just the first half, I said
“yeah macho, man up and stay out of the tunas safespace”
it was intendeed to be tag team style effort with you directed at said tuna.
Read my ‘whole’ quote out load to yourself in a mocking whiny tone of voice and it should give you the right context. If you go back to the thread you will see the tuna recognised that it was directed at her and got all p~~~y about it.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

In my line of work management gets in the way and simply wants to hitch their carts to horses like me to say “Look at ME – I helped! We made a big splash!” Then they send emails and bring it up in meetings how they “helped” land a big deal. So NO.

One manager who stayed out of my way and didn’t f~~~ with me and let me do my job – thus not f~~~ing up the process was a lesbian.

People would ask how I liked her and I would say “We get along well. I think its b/c we both like to eat pussy”

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

They’ll say “dominated by women” and through the chastising of political correctness they’d prefer we say “male dominated” instead of “dominated by MEN”.

Looks like PC has been around long enough in the industry for this description to become standard vocabulary. Having only been interacting with you lot for couple months it still sounds normal to (I imagine that will change the longer I’m on)

[Anonymous 42]

Look at the old educational films of any industry and the narrator mentions what the “men” are doing and how far the “men” have advanced the world of technology. The difference is night and day by today’s standards, they gave actual credit to men for their toils and struggles. Now every bit of praise and attention has to either include women or focus on them entirely praising the devastating things they do, like single moms, telling men that single moms are strong and good women for a man, failing to mention they want you to be a beta provider Mumford O’Crowley for another bastardized family destroyed by the new found powers of women.

The paradigm between the two sexes has become black-widow lethal for the MAN.

The gender war has produced some survivors, MGTOW are the survivors, the war is over for us, without loosing.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Look at the old educational films of any industry and the narrator mentions what the “men” are doing and how far the “men” have advanced the world of technology. The difference is night and day by today’s standards, they gave actual credit to men for their toils and struggles. Now every bit of praise and attention has to either include women or focus on them entirely praising the devastating things they do, like single moms, telling men that single moms are strong and good women for a man, failing to mention they want you to be a beta provider Mumford O’Crowley for another bastardized family destroyed by the new found powers of women.

The paradigm between the two sexes has become black-widow lethal for the MAN.

This being one main things that has me p~~~ed off. With there being so few women here, if one is even marginally competent then she is guaranteed carrier advancement.
I am good at my job and in the old days this gave me some job security (if treated like a number but am a number that makes a profit and all that). Even being a bit of a ‘no’ man was ignored because of how much money I make them.
These days I’m certain sure that if I left and was replaced by some bitch who either looks kinda pretty or ticks enough diversity boxes, who only produced a 10th of what I do, they genuinely think of it as an improvement.
The problem with big company’s is the people in charge (boards and HR types) are playing with other peoples money so are no longer driven by the right kind of greed or self interest.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

“Have you learned anything positive from a woman in a professional setting?”

I’ve learned I’m positive I don’t want to work with/for a woman ever again.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

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