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Alright, sup guys. I discovered MGTOW last year, but I didn’t look too much into it as I have been recently and let me just say thank god I stumbled upon this site. I feel like my eyes have been opened to a whole new world. I am 19 years old (turn 20 tomorrow whoo) so I am glad I found MGTOW this young.
Okay, time to explain things.
I have an older brother who is 21 years old. He started dating this chick from high school 3 years ago, they dated for about 2 years but then ended the relationship last year (he dumped her). She is 23 years old I think. Anyways, throughout the entire relationship my brother has been the submissive one and he does everything he can to please her while she does whatever the hell she feels like doing. The reason why he dumped her is because she told him “I don’t feel like being in a committed relationship”. During the relationship she would always go out and party late and say she’s going out with “friends” or sometimes she would drag my brother along (he submits to everything she does and wants). My brother is the clingiest person I know. He literally would leave for almost a week and not come home. He literally goes with her EVERYWHERE to do her errands, like clothes shopping, grocery shopping, picking up her siblings from school, etc. He will not leave her side. My grandma was at the hospital not too long ago, and instead of checking if she’s alright, he goes with this chick to her little sisters b day party, and then he doesn’t show up til the next day. This chick one time slept over my house (my brother and I still live under our parents roof btw until we finish school then move the f~~~ out) and she came late as hell and my brother started getting all beta saying crap like “why did you come late…? Don’t you care about me..? Do you still love me..?” And all she kept saying was “I just want to sleep” and then he started crying and saying s~~~ like “can you please hold me?”
I am cringing nasty just writing that part.And get this, a week into dating, one of her friends who is in the Marines asked her if it’s okay if she can be his date at the military ball in North Carolina…or South, one of those two, and then my brother actually said “yeah it’s ok babe you can go”. She ended up sucking off the dude over there and almost had sex but didn’t cause her mom walked into the hotel just in time. The only way how my brother found out was cause I told him about it cause the Marine dude ended up telling my best friend then my best friend told me so of course I had to tell my brother (we found out 2 days after they broke up).
Now here’s what’s really bothering me and I need help. They are no longer dating, but they still hang out every single day as if they are dating. He still constantly sleeps over her house almost every day, they call each other babe and crap, he still says he loves her and guess what….they aren’t even offically dating again. She literally has him by the b~~~~, he is very submissive to her, he blows loads of money on her, he actually drives her little sisters and brother to school and s~~~, and they aren’t even official. Now, why is not being officially dating so important to me? Because she is using this as an opportunity to ride the c~~~ carousel and then if he confronts her about it, she will just say “well, we aren’t even official” and then he will just submit to her and forgive her then it happens all over again, and when she’s all washed up, worn out, past her prime (I say another year or so) she will ask my brother to settle down. I know he will say yes because he is very clingy and his whole life revolves around her. They will get married, have kids, then it’s all over from there. He is too beta to make her sign a prenup or any contract that she won’t get crap if they divorce. If he tries to get her to sign she will prolly be like “oh, you don’t trust me??” then he will submit to his beta instincts and be like” N-no, not at all, I trust you, forget the prenup!” He even told me when he purchases his house HE’S EVEN GOING TO PUT HER NAME UNDER THE HOUSE This is horrible because he is half way into getting his Bachelors degree and she doesn’t attend school or anything, she just works in some crappy clothes store so she definitely is going to leech off the money and divorce then take everything from him. I tried convincing him but nothing works. Is it over for him? Is there still time? I still want to help him since he’s my brother, but he’s too whipped and blind to see it. Oh, and something funny, she still sucks her thumb when she sleeps.
I still try to convince him but I feel like he needs to learn the hardest way possible to get it through his head.
AWALT. Never forget.
You can’t teach it to him. He has to want to learn. Even you said “you’re eyes were opened up” but we didn’t open them. Even a year ago, you discovered MGTOW and didn’t really give it a look. But then, when you LOOKED, you learned. You had to WANT to see it.
Same thing.
He’s your brother. I don’t have any respect for my brother for similar reasons. His wife was p~~~ed because I ( me – who is not even her husband) didn’t send her flowers when I was in South America living my life on the day she popped a kid. She actually got him to drive into the city — one hour in each direction months after the fact — to give ME s~~~ for not giving her flowers on the day she gave birth. Like I was supposed to FedEx roses from Rio DeJaniero. He actually wanted me to apologize to her!
“Are you F~~~ING HIGH??” I said to him. “I’m not her husband. I don’t have to do whatever she says and wants. YOU do.”.
I shamed the s~~~ out of his weak beta ass for even trying it.
They didn’t speak to me for four years.. But I never caved.You’re going to have to be ruthless here. But you can’t make him see it. Nobody could make you see it until you were ready either. It’s not your fault. He’s not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to make sure YOU don’t end up like that. Look out for number one.
Happy Birthday by the way.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Dude, no offense but your brother is gonna have to learn the hard way. He obviously is still to infatuated with her that he sees no wrong with her cuz “its just the way she is”. That girl is a f~~~ing childish whore who has no self respect. I dealt with something like that and I regretted doing the s~~~ I did. I too was a bitch. You need to basically tell him that he isn’t even a man anymore for still involving himself with her. He is her bitch and he won’t have control over his own life till he dumps that bitch for good
I don’t think it would work, but you can just do your best to wake him up. He’s too self loathing and will put up with anything , so you would have to be cruel and be the one to say all the terrible stuff nobody else will. The best first thing to do is to have him cut all attention off and get him to treat his attention like women treat sex. He needs to stop paying attention to her today.
Anonymous18If it was your friend I’d say let the man learn his lesson the hard way and use his misery to self-educate. Since no amount of helping seems to work with the love stricken beta. In fact the whole love concept I believe was some social experiment to enslave manhood. For what it’s worth men fell for it but women were too smart. So the same formula was used to women but instead of men they were given the opportunity to love things. Women fell for things that just like men did for women.
Now for your brother. Sadly you will not be able to help him. Anything you say will start to register in his mind under some category that he makes to prevent the reality of your argument to register in full capacity. The category could be to the effect of: he (you) is jealous, he dislikes my gf, he doesn’t understand love among a whole list of things.
If she gets as much as a whiff of you seeing through her she will alienate you from your brother by catalyzing his own doubts.
Stay quiet. Drop the truth bombs not in a form of brotherly advice way but more so as a matter of fact. If you show emotion he will justify your words in his own way to justify her behavior.
He needs to learn it the hard way. When a man falls in love there is no helping him. The tragedy is how far he is going to go before she decides to ruin his life.
The signs he is showing are extremely desperate. But I can’t blame him.
Your brother is f~~~ed. How badly will be determined on her terms.
You can prepare for the downfall and be there for him.
And quite frankly he knows 1) she blew another guy under circumstances he approved despite the potential of another man’s sperm landing on/in her and 2) she is not interested in a committed relationship and he is still orbiting her.
I am sorry to say it is quite pathetic display on his part. The woman has him emasculated.
@keymaster
You’re right man. Ugh… I knew it…he is beyond repair.And dude that is crazy. I can’t believe she got so worked up over that LOL! He actually tried to give you s~~~ over that? Man…why are our brothers such betas…I hope I never make those same cringeworthy mistakes our brothers have made. I am rapidly losing respect for my brother, At first I felt bad since he is my brother but for f~~~ing sake, he is the true definition of a submissive beta. I can’t believe out of all the guys out there, my brother has to be one of them. It’s so pathetic and embarrassing. A disgrace to this family.
AWALT. Never forget.
@22deeboi
You’re spot on. I’m just going to have to be ruthless like what @keymaster said and just let him learn the hard hard hard wayAWALT. Never forget.
Anonymous18he is the true definition of a submissive beta. I can’t believe out of all the guys out there, my brother has to be one of them. It’s so pathetic and embarrassing. A disgrace to this family.
I despise his behavior mostly because I see some bit of my past experience and how helpless I felt.
As much as he needs to see things without the love fraud blinding him there are some credible characteristics in his behavior. I will reserve my truest apathy for if he gets burned and then finds another vagina to worship.
It could be the best thing that could happen to him. But there is quite a bit of misery ahead before he gets to claim his manhood back.
just let him learn the hard hard hard way
@iLearn and others can see it too from what you describe. And it’s quite literally like watching a housefly bash its own head against the glass. OVER and OVER and OVER again….. and you wish you could tell the fly “find an open window”!! But you can’t . Eventually it tires itself out , aand all you can do is sweep it into the trash.
But in times like this, there is a good opener I like to use to prepare someone for brutal truth:
“Would you want me to be silent about something that is for your own good – even if it will hurt alot?”
And see what he says.
If he goes for it, it means he is at least ready to listen to it. Then lay it on HARD and make the point.
If he doesn’t, then you’re off the hook. At least you cared. And you TRIED.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@iLearn
Dude I agree with everything 100%!
It’s also pretty funny because she avoids trying to see me and if I do see her, the atmosphere is very tense. She knows I can smell the whore out of her. I’ve dropped some truth bombs on him the other day, and that’s when he told me he was gonna put her name under the house he purchases in the future. He, like the good beta he is, obviously told her everything I told him which was me trying to convince him to rethink his actions carefully and to stop being such a pussy and clingy to her.
I told him to not get married to her and to just not get married to anyone but he tells me “bro you just don’t understand how love works”.
I know for a fact he tells her everything I tell him. I once heard her on the phone tell him “oh, are you scared of him? You don’t have to listen to him”.My brother is so f~~~ed. I knew it. I’ll just grab some popcorn and pop on the 3D glasses and watch how s~~~ turns out.
AWALT. Never forget.
Beta’s have to learn the hard way. Beta’s have locked out reason due to desperate worship of the Vag.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Yup, at least I tried. He can’t say s~~~ if she does doing everything that I predict she will do. In the end, he can’t be like “Why didn’t you warn mee???”
Edit: I’ll try that opener. He will most likely be like “Tell me, I wont get hurt” but then after I give him the cold hard facts, he will be like “bro wtf is your problem with her”.
Betas man….f~~~ing betas…
AWALT. Never forget.
I feel for ya Malefic, the hardest part of this is admitting powerless over the situation. I have a brother and a friend whom are in similar situations, but I can’t do anything about it so I don’t lose sleep over it.
He has to have to want to change and without that he won’t. Many of us here were blue pills once, but you can’t hate someone for that, it’s social programming and naievity (spelt right?). Hopefully one day he will get burned hard enough to realise the illusion for what it is and can learn to live for himself and not as a sycophant.
Think of a drug addict that has to hit rock bottom before they can truly learn to pick themselves up.
Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman
he can’t be like “Why didn’t you warn mee???”
Well if you’re gonna go there, you really gotta gotta give it to him good .
“Hey bro. You’re weak beta f~~~~~ry pansy ass begging s~~~ makes me wanna puke. And the reason she is sucking every one else’s dick but yours is because you make HER sick too. I can’t stand to watch it anymore….. “………and then just unscrew his head and s~~~ down his neck with as many colorful metaphors as you want.
Here’s some inspiration.
I’ll just grab some popcorn and pop on the 3D glasses and watch how s~~~ turns out.
That’s an option too.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@keymaster @reddawn @iLearn
I should also include that she got a tongue piercing, so since she got one, he got one too. He says he’s “always wanted one” and “to enjoy life”. It’s quite funny because “to enjoy life” is the same bulls~~~ excuse I hear that chick spew out constantly .
AWALT. Never forget.
I should also include that she got a tongue piercing, so since she got one, he got one too.
Oh god. Then better just stick to the popcorn idea. It’s not your problem anymore.
He would walk himself off a f~~~ing cliff if she did it first.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3I was typing up something and then I saw your last comment Malefic lol.
There’s always hope, least in my opinion. Although, at this point, I don’t think it’s going to be worth the time and effort.
Unfortunately for your brother, he has to learn the hard way, as painful and traumatic as it may seem. He needs to cut all ties with this girl because obviously she don’t give a s~~~ about him if she’s giving some other guy a blow job. His conditioning needs to be broken or she’s going to continuously walk all over him like doormat. He needs to learn self respect. It will take some work. Maybe he should read some of the information here on these forums to help him to realize that, in the real world, not everything is hunky dory when it comes to relationships. In his case, it is a bonafide RELATIONS~~~.
Your brother …. I’m sorry to say … is a pussy.
He has cut off his b~~~~ and handed them to her.
He’s fcked and that not pleasant to watch.
Best you can do is lead by example and maybe one day he’ll grab his b~~~~ back.
Don’t hold your breath.
just let him learn the hard hard hard way
@iLearn and others can see it too from what you describe. And it’s quite literally like watching a housefly bash its head against the glass. Over and OVER and OVER again….. an you wish you could tell the fly “find an open window”. But you can’t . Eventually it tires itself out uand all you can do is sweep it into the trash.
But in times like this, there is a good opener I like to use to prepare someone for brutal truth:
“Would you want me to be silent about something that was for your own good – even if it will hurt alot?”
And see what he says. If he goes for it, lay it on HARD. If he doesn’t, then you’re off the hook.Hey that’s actually a pretty good opener. I will use it. I was planning on talking to him about this one of these days this week. I could update you guys on what his response is.
AWALT. Never forget.
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