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Anonymous18Please elaborate, I’m confused what do you even mean
Not hitting on chicks is a long arduous process?
I said as you quoted me:
The monk thing is long arduous process
Which you translated to hitting on women.
Been monk for 25 years–its easy.
Show off.
Well, not hitting on women is all that it takes to be a monk, at least from my experience. You have something else in mind?
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Been monk for 25 years–its easy.
Show off.
While not as long as Pete it’s been 15 years for me, and it does get easier.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Anonymous3There are very few true MGTOW especially without getting burned really badly at least a couple of times, including at least one divorce.
I think it requires a very rare and specific combination of traits.
I read on another forum that most MGTOW are INTJs, for whatever validity you might give that. It’s something around 2% of the total population. And of those MGTOW is probably only a fraction.
I read on another forum that most MGTOW are INTJs, for whatever validity you might give that. It’s something around 2% of the total population. And of those MGTOW is probably only a fraction.
I have never had that as my result. Mine has changed over time but never an INTJ.
Its been a couple months. For a while my isolation seemed to be going well till a buddys GF/EX started talking to me and all she did was bitch about him…
As of yesterday I vowed I dont want anything to do with them anymore. I will meditate day in and day out till I fully stop thinking about them. I havent slept with any in years and its easy to resist. But I want to stop fully thinking about them. I will talk to them if it concerns business (to get through life, purchases, etc) but I will not hook up, or even talk to them. They will never exist to me ever again.
I will be alone and will end up dying alone. But at least I am free now. And in the end I will be fully free.
Now peace can fully begin
There are very few true MGTOW especially without getting burned really badly at least a couple of times, including at least one divorce.
I think it requires a very rare and specific combination of traits.
I read on another forum that most MGTOW are INTJs, for whatever validity you might give that. It’s something around 2% of the total population. And of those MGTOW is probably only a fraction.
I’m INTP and have always tested as such. I have been tested via official MBTI test as well as various online tests. See similarminds.com for Jungian tests.
Mr. Boats: "'Avoid the reeking herd! Shun the polluted flock! Live like that stoic bird, the eagle of the rock!' You know what that means, son?" -American Splendor
The more I think about it, the more I realize how much happier I am with a woman in my life.
I disagree completely.
nagging, manipulative, emotional beings are annoying to be around.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
nagging, manipulative, emotional beings are annoying to be around.
Everything has pros and cons.
Everything has pros and cons.
you’re right, there are pros and cons- professional prostitutes, and those who con you
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Anonymous1The more I think about it, the more I realize how much happier I am with a woman in my life. It could be that I still need more time alone.
I used to feel this way sometimes, but when I let a woman into my life it never turned out positive for me. Yet I’d find myself missing a girlfriend again after a while. Having put myself through this cycle multiple times I looked in the mirror and asked myself wtf was really going on with this mentality. The honest answer was, it was all about my ego. It made me feel better about myself to have a girlfriend. It took me a while to mentally escape from that perspective, but it was a major life change, for the better. Not saying it’s the same for you Gambit, just sharing what my hang up was.
While I respect your decision, I am still not sure if I can continue the MGTOW “lifestyle” forever. Time will tell but I have found some peace this week.
The more I think about it, the more I realize how much happier I am with a woman in my life. It could be that I still need more time alone.
Because you haven’t figured out how to be happy with yourself yet. Maybe your wealth is a result of that. Take Hitman’s advice. Donate your time to those less fortunate. It will help you keep things in perspective. As for your actual state of mind. I’m of the notion that your family is doing you no favors feeding you blue pills.
No wonder you’re on this site raging all the time. Because you’re here getting red pills and it’s conflicting with the bulls~~~ your family is feeding you in the form of blue pills. Matrix asked the ultimate question in one of your threads when he asked if you enjoy your own company or not. Those who cannot find happiness in themselves, cannot begin to bring happiness to others.
If you feel you need to go back to the plantation, that is your decision. Just understand that the people who are here did not come here because the plantation was a winning proposition. There’s a reason why Keymaster says marriage is for wimmin and gays. It’s not, and will continue to not be (unless the rules are changed) a winning deal for men. No matter how much wealth they have. For all your money, Brandon Frazier had much more than you could fathom. And more fame. He’s broke, and unemployed, and paying out the ass to a woman he can’t afford to keep paying to. Because the system no matter what agreements you make, no matter what wealth your companion brings to the table don’t favor you at all.
nagging, manipulative, emotional beings are annoying to be around.
Everything has pros and cons.
Is that YOU speaking, or your family? Seems like the bulk of your blue pilled thinking is being fed to you by your family. For starters, you’re taking life advice from your mother. She has a natural investment in seeing you on the plantation. MGTOW is about individual sovereignty.
Marriage takes that away. Because now you’re basing your decisions on the best interest of your partner and HOPING she takes into account YOUR best interest in HER decision making, which almost always never happen.
In terms of politics, there’s two kinds of women. Women who agree with their partner and vote as he does – self assured survival, and those who vote the opposite side of their partner for the sake of their individual interest. In the end it’s all the same. It’s a win/win situation for her. If she votes against her husband she loses her meal ticket. But if she leaves him, she can vote her own individual interest anyways.
@gambit I honestly don’t think going monk is for everyone — the pain that people undergo trying to get away from their sexual and emotional impulses is evidence enough for that. It really depends on whether you think it’s the correct decision for you. Everybody has a line of what they are and are not willing to tolerate. How much risk they’re willing to accept.
Cigarette smokers accept a certain amount of risk, knowingly or unknowingly in the pursuit of their habit. I don’t know how old you are, but assuming you’re younger than 25 it’s understandable to feel the way you do. At the very least take precautions to not get a woman pregnant or what have you if you can’t resist female companionship. Do not cohabitate, etc. Protect yourself. The whole of society is not on your side.
I think of that kind of desire like an energy that can be diverted into other pursuits.
I’m one of those “naturals” who is not really bothered by it, as well. It is an undeniable desire that we have, but knowing that it is natural and consequently nothing wrong with you is a good thing. In the same vein, a lot of things our bodies tell us are good for us are not, like the smoking example or eating to the point of obesity.
Turd Flinging Monkey has so much emphasis on sex toys/dolls/VR for this reason. He’s an advocate of “rerouting” the sexual/emotional impulse. Those of us with a lower libido got off easy basically. The sex drive is essentially a genetic trick to copy said genes and you should remind yourself of such if it gets to you.
Going monk isn’t about vows and sacrifices.
It’s about having standards.
In example I’m going monk by waiting for a woman who:
* Is very rich
* Is very generous
* have no kids
* have at least two degrees – women’s studies is verboten
* Is older than me but still is at least a 7 when it comes at look
* makes the very first move, being very open and direct
* keep courtshipping me after I’ll put her under various s~~~-tests
* have sex at least 2 times per day + never reject me + can handle being rejected by me at least once per weekI’m also not going to look for her, she have to find me and do all the work.
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Yeah. I’ve read the other post, so going to be adding some to the idea relating to dealing with people.
Isolation, it doesn’t solve all the problems. I know, I’ve done it for a long time. There’s pro’s and con’s to it. I think that’s basically what the OP is saying.
A lot of the stuff people are dealing with, is just learning how to deal with people. and yeah, going monk, isolating, giving up on women, is one of the ways to develop a foundation. Like once you understand that you don’t need people to be happy, and once you give up thinking your life will be happier if you found the right woman or whatever, then you have a strong foundation. At least I believe you do. Isolation is not necessarily healthy, and I honestly wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. But the same can be accomplished without being in isolation, cut off from the world as much as possible.
It comes down to learning how to deal with people. You said she called and blah blah blah blah. Whenever someone calls me, I’ve learned how to deal with people really well on the phone. Anytime someone calls me on the phone and ask is this ever5? I just respond, “What’s this regarding?”. I just ask a question. You just ask questions.
I remember my mother called me a while back, I don’t speak with her. I’m not interested in being mean to people. I just asked “What do you want?”, her response “I’m just calling to check on you”, “You mean like have a conversation?”, “Yeah I just wanted to talk and see how you were doing.”, “O ok, that’s great, I’m currently busy, can we have this conversation another time?”, “Yeah, that’s fine”. “Great, I’ll talk to you another time, bye.” and hung up and she didn’t bother me for another month or 3. Can’t remember, now it’s been like a long long time. No more problems.
The point is, just learning how to deal with people. Questions is by far the best method I have learned with how to deal with people in a non aggressive way. I don’t want to be mean, I just don’t want to be annoyed.
And though I’m good at this stuff on the phone, because I’m always read when a phone rings, at least most the time. Normal situations, still get me and I’m still cultivating.
A situation I had today. I was out in my driveway, my neighbor comes over that I have a fairly good relationship with, we hang out from time to time, shoot the bull. I was working on a project, building out a van into an RV. He’s talking to me about it. My other neighbor came over, who happens to be a woman. And she interrupts our conversation. Then she finds out through our conversation that I’m moving. And she ask “Did you get our permission?” and I just simply ignored her and pretend I didn’t hear. She said it again. I just ignored her and pretended I didn’t hear it, and at this point I completely just pretended she didn’t exist, as I talked to my neighbor who was actually interested in what I was doing and thought it was cool. I’m sure in her mind, she thought she was being funny. I found it to be insulting. Then she finally just walked off.
Where do you draw the line? I honestly don’t know.
Sometimes I’d like to just go off on people, tell them what I really think. In that case, that her comment was “abusive”, and that I don’t appreciate it. But what would that accomplish. She’s my neighbor. If I’m “honest” with her, am I not going to create friction that could simply be avoided by just blowing it off and letting it go.
These are things, we as individuals, have to figure out in our current society. I find ignoring people and walking off one of my main strategies. Is that healthy? In a relationship, it’s not healthy, it’s actually a form of abuse. The silent treatment. However, I’m not living with these people. They are my neighbors.
These are some of the main issues that I think a lot of men struggle with. Just how do you deal with people. Quite a few assholes out there. Quite a few people who are assholes and really don’t mean to be. There’s no possible way to just get along all the time.
However in isolation, because you don’t have interactions, then social skills can become weak. I’ve certainly gone through this. There’s a lot I could go into on that. Because it’s up and down. It’s weak, but then you have some insight that changes your perspective and you gain new tools, new ways of approaching old problems.
I’ve looked at various things lately. If someone is going to literally go monk, drop out of society, there are things that can be done. I heard about one lady who went backpacking for 3 months or more, maybe a few years. That’s a different form of isolation than simply sitting at home and watching tv. And she benefited a lot from that. And no she wasn’t going and getting laid. She was literally alone by her self, cooking food with sticks and an alcohol stove.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
Anonymous3Isolation and decreased social skills are definitely an issue I’ve thought of as well.
But the thing is, most people get more than enough social practice at work. Even if you barely talk to your co-workers, you’ll still have some conversations, and that’s really all you need to know that you still have those skills.
In fact, your skills probably get better that way, because you’re more focused and less interested in wasting time.
Social “skills” aren’t really so much as some people want them to be. It’s really just people babbling, most people don’t really pay attention to the other person or care, and everyone forgets or ignores it the next time they see you. I forget things all the time too. It’s just natural. People that think they have great social skills or obsess over it tend to actually have really poor skills, because they actually pay attention and remember and bring things up, which nobody actually wants.
And for a lot of the questions, nobody actually wants an answer or cares, it’s just experience to tell you that. Like “How are you doing?” doesn’t actually mean someone wants to hear, especially if you’re a man, that you’re having some sort of trouble on something. They just want to hear “fine, and yourself?” and then they will respond and move past that quickly too. People that obsess over “social skills” often think that there is supposed to be more to it, but there isn’t, you’re just supposed to know now to really talk much.
Then it’s a matter of current events, some popular political stance, TV, movies, music, etc. Most of it is virtue signalling or just repeating the commonly held sentiments. There’s also bragging about wealth or sexual relationships or something else like that, and rubbing it in someone else’s face passive aggressively. That’s a favorite of women especially. At some point, if you’ve truly become “enlightened” then you simply won’t care for any of it, so you’ll naturally cut short your conversations and move on, just being civil and polite and very, very superficial.
I am extremely well liked, and I pretty much never talk to anyone. And when I do, it’s extremely superficial. I know full well every commonly accepted conversation point, and I just move through them quickly. Most people just want to talk about themselves anyway, so they won’t notice or won’t care that you won’t offer details of your own life. In fact they’re happier that they don’t actually have to pretend they give a s~~~. It doesn’t bother them at all that you don’t give a s~~~, they just want to s~~~ out their routine.
While I respect your decision, I am still not sure if I can continue the MGTOW “lifestyle” forever. Time will tell but I have found some peace this week.
The more I think about it, the more I realize how much happier I am with a woman in my life. It could be that I still need more time alone.
Yup, he is dead.
Triage black tag.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I have been Monk Mode for all of my life; I have had any action/attention off women at all. I am 42 now. So, because I have concluded that modern women are toxic and are no good for men, I have decided to continue to be a Monk Mode male. Decision made. MGTOW.
Going monk isn’t about vows and sacrifices.
It’s about having standards.
In example I’m going monk by waiting for a woman who:
* Is very rich
* Is very generous
* have no kids
* have at least two degrees – women’s studies is verboten
* Is older than me but still is at least a 7 when it comes at look
* makes the very first move, being very open and direct
* keep courtshipping me after I’ll put her under various s~~~-tests
* have sex at least 2 times per day + never reject me + can handle being rejected by me at least once per weekI’m also not going to look for her, she have to find me and do all the work.
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Damn, 🤔.
Not bad, I will think about it.
Except I has to be younger than me, at least for 7 years, and the offset is only valid till im 40.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
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