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Can anyone explain to me how having ANY association with a female of any kind serves ANY constructive purpose for the man?
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We can use them for artificial womb research? After that forget about them.
Having a girlfriend is like owning a gun, the longer your around it, the more you want to shoot it.

Anonymous43hmm I have fond memories of my mom beating rugs on the clothes line, handed me the beating tool and let me have a whack at it.
YEP Cooking and cleaning.. those days are loooonnng gone. “I can put in some pizza rolls if you would like.” Learn how to cook a meal bitch.
Don't care
Their degree is counterfeit and their intelligence is a farce.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
If that phone comes out on a date, and it’s not an emergency or death in the family, if it’s most likely just for her to check her latest duck face selfie likes or send a message to the hive.
Get up. Don’t speak. Walk out the door.
Don’t give it a second thought about appearing ignorant.
Afterall she didn’t give a flying f~~~ how ignorant she is pulling it out on a date and ignoring you.
I literally had this experience before. I was on a Tinder date, and I left this girl who had her head buried in the phone. I ignored it at first hoping she would put the damn thing down. I finally said enough was enough. I just got up, and went to pay my half of the bill. I came back with her half of the bill, and told her, “have a good one”.
The conversation played out like this:
Her: “Why are you leaving?”
Me: “This has been the worst dating experience of my life, and I’m not wasting my time on this bulls~~~”.
Her: “Wow!”, ” You are just going to leave me here?!”, “How am I getting home?!”.
Me: “I sure am princess, you have a phone which you are pretty damn fond of, so call yourself a f~~~ing UBER!!!”.I then left that bitch with her stupid look on her face. I left her with no ride, and her half of the bill. You should have seen her face as everyone in the restaurant was laughing at her. I didn’t care. NFG to the bitches!
I shall award you two c~~~s up for this!! Love it, man! Sad that it happened, though.
I shall award you two c~~~s up for this!! Love it, man! Sad that it happened, though.
Thanks bro. The s~~~ is becoming more prevalent with all these entitled princesses being raised by single mothers. Women have created their own demise.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Thanks bro. The s~~~ is becoming more prevalent with all these entitled princesses being raised by single mothers. Women have created their own demise.
Yes, women are their own worst enemy.

Anonymous0The Tinder evidence adds evidence of the Pareto principle at work in the modern gynocracy: 80% of the women are f~~~in 20% of the men. The funny thing is that most women don’t know it.
I know a guy who’s 51 and he’s probably banged 100-150 broads from ages 25-50 in the last 3-4 years. He’s prob an 8 in looks for his age and makes good money but isnt a wealth flaunter, he’s just a good charmer, and relentlessly gaming and parallel texting/dating. Sure, he spends a lot of time approaching and online chatting and dating and driving, but if you want numbers, this is the way you do it if you’re a top 20-30% male in looks/money. I’m not willing to spend that kind of time, but it’s tempting just for the adventure of it.
But again, I’m intrigued by the fact that women aren’t aware that their hypergamy-driven “dating up” strategy is largely not working to find them husbands. The broads banging my pal have no idea how much tang he goes thru, they just like his charm game and humor and fun banter and adventurous bad boy persona. They don’t stop to think “Hmm, I’m a 5 at best. If I date an 8, what are the chances he’s gonna dump me after a couple bangs?” Maybe they’re stupid, or maybe they think they can be the ONE to make him fall in love and spring a ring, or maybe they just want to bang a hot dude for kicks.
Either way, the top 20-30% quality men are getting 80% of the bangs, and that describes the modern “c~~~ carousel” that most girls in their 20’s, and some in their 30’s, are riding. This is happening primarily because women think they have the luxury of time to find a pretty boy husband with lots of money, and that worst case, they will not marry and save up a nice big retirement from their overpaid retail job or overpaid govt job.
Welllll, all free rides come to an end sooner or later, and the booming debt/retail/consumption economy is just about out of gas. High paying retail executive and easy overpaid govt bureaucrat jobs are mostly going to disappear in the Reckoning, and so will high paid female jobs (except whore). The collapse will force women to date and marry on par with their looks again, and not have divorce courts anymore because they won’t be able to afford the lawyers, and what cops left will have their hands too full with marauders than to chase up deadbeat husbands.
So us middle quality men will survive the pussy shortage until the pussy comes scampering back offering free samples and promises of submissiveness that women have to offer in a tribal anarchy. In the meantime, just build things and enjoy the satisfaction of making things work and the praise from your brothers for doing so as you enjoy a beverage at the end of a hard day.
Women are a vice, not a virtue, and currently not worth the price they are charging while the govt subsidizes their c~~~ carousel adventures. The hell with ’em. The older broads will be s~~~ out of luck when the Reckoning takes their easy money. Men who can make and fix s~~~ and handle a weapon will have their pick of young skank. Just be patient. Winter is coming.
In Fortis, Libertas
Coach BeefI work at a major University, I drive a bus at night including on weekends. Trust me when I tell you that just because you go to college does NOT mean you have a brain! If getting a higher education means I would be a target for women, I wish I had been a 10th grade dropout. I was married to a woman with a GED and I married a woman with a Masters Degree. It makes no difference. A bitch is a bitch and in 53 years, I have yet to meet a NAWALT. Women in romantic relationships, jobs and even family messed me up in the end.
The Tinder evidence adds evidence of the Pareto principle at work in the modern gynocracy: 80% of the women are f~~~in 20% of the men. The funny thing is that most women don’t know it.
This principle has a correlation to the Crazy Hot Matrix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbKYcBdVyk Once you apply statistical analysis to their biological prerogative, it makes sense. Women would have to overthrow their biological propensities, but that would require a certain level of logic. We know most women aren’t logical. Most women aren’t even aware of the hypergamous nature. It is a biological phenomena that is seen through the animal kingdom.
Either way, the top 20-30% quality men are getting 80% of the bangs, and that describes the modern “c~~~ carousel” that most girls in their 20’s, and some in their 30’s, are riding. This is happening primarily because women think they have the luxury of time to find a pretty boy husband with lots of money, and that worst case, they will not marry and save up a nice big retirement from their overpaid retail job or overpaid govt job.
Everything is all good, while the milk is good. Once their milk starts to sour, and they run into the infamous wall, the party will be over… The carousel will have done its damage, and the women will find the comfort of cats.
I work at a major University, I drive a bus at night including on weekends. Trust me when I tell you that just because you go to college does NOT mean you have a brain! If getting a higher education means I would be a target for women, I wish I had been a 10th grade dropout. I was married to a woman with a GED and I married a woman with a Masters Degree. It makes no difference. A bitch is a bitch and in 53 years, I have yet to meet a NAWALT. Women in romantic relationships, jobs and even family messed me up in the end.
Yeah I’m 25 and I already reached this logical conclusion. Most women are a lost cause.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
But again, I’m intrigued by the fact that women aren’t aware that their hypergamy-driven “dating up” strategy is largely not working to find them husbands.
They’re well aware of it, they just won’t or can’t admit the truth to themselves let alone anyone else.
For the most part, women live in a constant state of denial. Where reality is our steadfast ally, reality is their mortal enemy.
Going off on a slight tangent here, Coach. Your posts so far have a distinct whiff of PUA terminology and thinking. PUA is not MGTOW. Certain precepts may overlap, but the two are not the same.
The emphasis here is on self improvement for it’s own sake rather than self improvement as a way to get laid.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
For the most part, women live in a constant state of denial. Where reality is our steadfast ally, reality is their mortal enemy.
Keymaster spoke about this to a degree. He stated that women live in relative truth rather than absolute truth. This allows them to deceive themselves. Women deceive themselves all the time…
Woman: “Honey, does these leggings make my ass look fat?” or “Do you think she is prettier than me?”
Women ask these question already desiring a reprogrammed response. Women are in denial of everything. They are delusional, and it explains the infamous 80/20 dating principle. Women who are 5/6 SMV are deluded enough to think they can score a 8/9 SMV chad. They don’t live in reality!
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
They don’t stop to think “Hmm, I’m a 5 at best. If I date an 8, what are the chances he’s gonna dump me after a couple bangs?” Maybe they’re stupid, or maybe they think they can be the ONE to make him fall in love and spring a ring, or maybe they just want to bang a hot dude for kicks.
They don’t think they are 5s though…they sign up for some online dating s~~~ and even if they are a 5, they get bombarded with offers and they get an over inflated sense of self worth.
From your buddies perspective though…banging a 30 year old who is a 5 compared to banging a chick his own age is a win pretty much every time. Probably like 1% of 50 year old women are hotter than an average 30 year old.

Anonymous0RE: Old Bill
Going off on a slight tangent here, Coach. Your posts so far have a distinct whiff of PUA terminology and thinking. PUA is not MGTOW. Certain precepts may overlap, but the two are not the same. The emphasis here is on self improvement for it’s own sake rather than self improvement as a way to get laid.
Yeah Bill I agree there’s not a lot of overlap of PUA and MGTOW goals, and I think a lot of PUA work is not time spent on MGTOW Mission, except for one PUA principle of the attractiveness of Mision Confidence. My point is not to glorify getting laid but to leverage the strongest MGTOW principle there is, the prioritization of Self-Direction and Mission, and show its power to not just enrich solitary life but also social life.
I appreciate the desire to stay on this particular anti-dating post/thread, and avoid a digression to PUA hunting as an alternative to dating, and I think I avoided that in THIS post (though I have articulated low cost mission-sidebar seduction options in other threads).
On PUA overlap to MGTOW, since you brought it up, my understanding of this forum, by its inclusion of sections on Dating and Relations~~~s and Marriage is not to seek uniform support of banning or avoiding all three forever, which some support I’m sure, but to entertain ideas for REFORMING those institutions in a new cultural renaissance of Patriarchal Dating/Relationships/Marriage, which worked for evolution to make humanity better for a million years before government and feminism f~~~ed it up.
So I personally, for myself, believe in and support the possibility of reforming those institutions within a MGTOW lifestyle, not renouncing them. A self-directed patriarch could meet every MGTOW Mission he defines if he subordinates his woman’s needs to the Mission. If the Mission feeds her as a by-product, she will stay and be loyal and not disrupt the Mission. If she disrupts the Mission, she’s cast out.
If some hardline anti-female-relationship MGTOWs support banning those institutions for themselves, I can’t criticize that, it may be the best thing to do for a significant % of men…everyone is different in nature/nurture and Mission so who am I to criticize it. I’m simply offering an alternative scenario of possibilities to subordinate female relationships to male Missions, which I’ve seen done well, done badly, and I’ve done it myself with mostly success. I think there’s room for a big spectrum on these points.
WTF are you talking about? Think you are getting into this too deep. Women are trouble, always have been and always will be. *mic drop*
Don't care
Yeah Bill I agree there’s not a lot of overlap of PUA and MGTOW goals…
And yet here you are writing about how MGTOWs can secure more dates or at least sexual encounters with women.
Unlike PUA where self improvement is all about getting laid, self improvement in MGTOW has only the goal of improving the man himself in mind. Self improvement here is not a means to an end, it is the end in and of itself. That’s a subtle difference, an important difference, and a difference many have yet to understand.
You and I have have something in common, Coach. We both write far too much when a simple sentence or sentences would do. I do so because of my long background in preparing and presenting reports on technical subjects and projects. You do so, I suspect, because you’ve confused jargon with information.
Reading your posts with all their buzzwords, catch phrases, and odd allusions reminds of the late Professor Irwin Corey. Billed as the World’s Foremost Expert, he was a comedian who had a 50+ year career specializing in “high-faluting” double talk. He’d be asked something as simple as “How’re you doing?” and answer with a five minute monologue full of “fifty dollar” words which in the aggregate meant absolutely nothing.
Where Corey did it consciously, you do it by reflex because it makes what you write seem “deeper” or more “informed” to you.
Your posts are nearly as long as mine. Sadly, there actually isn’t much of anything in them.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Reading your posts with all their buzzwords, catch phrases, and odd allusions reminds of the late Professor Irwin Corey. Billed as the World’s Foremost Expert, he was a comedian who had a 50+ year career specializing in “high-faluting” double talk. He’d be asked something as simple as “How’re you doing?” and answer with a five minute monologue full of “fifty dollar” words which in the aggregate meant absolutely nothing.
lol

Anonymous0Bill,
Insulting me is not helping your argument for apparently the hardline “Schism” MGTOW position of having zero social contact with women. IF that’s what you’re advocating, just come the f~~~ out and say it instead of insulting my writing style. If you confront the disagreement, it’d be so much more informative for me and the other readers.Here’s what I think the rift is about….it’s a simple MGTOW policy difference: I support male-female relationship REFORM via “MGTOW Mission Supremacy”, and apparently you support complete relationship severance via “MGTOW Segregation”. I’m just guessing because you’re not being clear, you’re just angry that I don’t agree with your hardline position. If you think there’s only one possible MGTOW policy then you’re too dogmatic. I respect your Segregationist policy position (if that’s what it is) but apparently you don’t respect mine. We’re on the same team here. The enemy is the state and the poison anti-merit gynocratic entitlement culture it creates in order to soften us up for centrally planned enslavement.
By the way, I’ve written more pages of technical reports on aircraft than there are pages in the US Tax Code. If you don’t like my commentary style, I could give a rat’s nutsack. That said, I offer peace and respectfully request tolerance of a variety of policy possibilities in the name of restoring the Patriarchy.
Insulting your writing style? Perish the thought. I’m merely commenting on the seeming oddity of it. To further illustrate, let’s take a look at some of the peculiarities in your latest post.
hardline “Schism”
confront the disagreement
policy difference
relationship REFORM
“MGTOW Mission Supremacy”
complete relationship severance
“MGTOW Segregation”.
MGTOW policy
dogmatic
Segregationist policy position
anti-merit gynocratic entitlement culture
a variety of policy possibilitiesAll of that reads like an HR department “mission statement” memo or policy briefing penned by a congressional aide. It’s jargon for jargon’s sake.
While I work primarily from home these days, I have a small plaque which used to hang in my offices. It reads:
Eschew obfuscation
If you want to think clearly, you must speak and write clearly. If you want your ideas to be understood, you must speak and write clearly.
Read Orwell’s essay on English composition and try to follow it’s advice. I know it helped me and I’m sure it can help you.
Good luck!
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

Anonymous0jargon for jargon’s sake
Bill,
I appreciate your apparent sincerity in trying to teach me to write, but even if you really are sincere, is this a writing class or a discussion forum? If it’s a discussion forum, then it simply looks like you’re changing the subject or casting insults to avoid argument.
I actually want to know, and I think newer MGTOWs would want to know if you really have a “segregationist” policy towards women in contrast to my “reformist” policy.Regarding the “peculiarities” you listed, I won’t insult you and assume you don’t understand their meaning. None those are opaque at all, none are even metaphors (which I love to include, and will do so later just to entertain you further), and all are relevant to trying to clarify your criticism. (Specifically, the criticism of my inclusion of seduction as a possible side benefit of a well integrated MGTOW with a committed mission.)
If you’re not trying to insult me, then you’re probably just as debilitatingly irritated by writing styles you disagree with as you are about MGTOW policies you disagree with.
One more try, as directly and in as few words as I can:
1) What is your MGTOW policy on relationships with women, and
2) Is there room, in your opinion, for MGTOW policies other than yours?- AuthorPosts
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