Forgiveness? Blue pill, red pill, or no pill?

[Anonymous 42]

I just want to hear what opinion members have on the subject of forgiveness.

I think it’s a double edge sword.

Supernatural law says to forgive.

Natural law says to beware, run!

No animal in the animal kingdom returns to get bit twice.

Except man and dog.

Why?

Are manginas like dogs to women that return to get kicked, abused, and still lick her hand? Like dogs don’t know any better and neither do manginas? Always returning to be faithful to a cruel master? Are manginas like abused dogs with their tails between their legs?

Are MGTOW dogs that got pushed too far? Got mean, nasty, and now snarling? (Early stage red pill?)

Are some MGTOW just the smart ones that figured it out over time? Got colder, older, wiser, loosing all the resentment in the sands of time?(long time MGTOW?)

Is forgiveness man’s Achilles Heel? Forgive and forget regret? Back through the mill?

I think it’s more important not to burn people in the first place. Is that drawing the line too far in the sand? Is it too high a standard?

Sadly I’ve found I have to build defensive positions rather than friendly posture when asked to be forgiven, especially when you know it’s insincere and too severe.

Kick it around if you’re interested, like to see other’s prospective.

Thoughts?

[StealthParticipant 5335]

Forgive and forget is an equation for repeating the cycle.

I say “forgive and learn.”

Remember it but move on.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Anonymous 54]

I have never understood giveing forgiveness to those that havent asked for it.
I know Christians will tell me I should, but I have allways struggled with that.
I see it in terms of ” letting go” of it, for my own well being.

But

If someone asks me for forgiveness, and they are truely sincere, and sorry for wronging me, yes absolutly I would forgive them.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

It is not for them. It is for you. Forgiveness does not mean they get to go back.

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[TheDudeParticipant 724]

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Forgive but never forget!

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[TheDudeParticipant 724]

Anonymous wrote:

I have never understood giveing forgiveness to those that havent asked for it.
I know Christians will tell me I should, but I have allways struggled with that.
I see it in terms of ” letting go” of it, for my own well being.

But

If someone asks me for forgiveness, and they are truely sincere, and sorry for wronging me, yes absolutly I would forgive them.

Agreed. I’m not happy with some of the things me ex has done this year, but she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong.

I just have to let it go.

[Anonymous 54]

TheDude wrote:

I just have to let it go.

Let it go! ( Ive allways whanted to say that hah)
I find its easier than finding forgivness, for someone that doesnt give two s~~~s about your forgiveness.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Retaining hatred and resentment is bad for your health. Both mental and physical. Forgive for your own self, but never forget. Put it behind you and move on.

[bladeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

especially when you know it’s insincere and too severe.

Some people are thrown over the line . Few learn to survive .

Those that throw those people do it cold and calculating . There creations are colder .

Forgiveness , i am very forgiving . Normally i just turn my back and walk away . Empty chair nothing .

I like big fish there better game .

Family court goverment msm f~~~ em . They are not human and neither am i . Pretty much thats what happens when a feminist c~~~ doctor plays with the damaged mind of a youth . You failed your hiness hope your enjoying hell c~~~

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22515]

Forgiveness doesnt remove consequences.

Forgiveness is so the person who’s been wronged can move forward in their life, that you can stop fixating on whatever and focus on getting back to normal. Its not for the asshole that needs to be forgiven.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[UntamedParticipant]

I forgive. I do not forget.
Burn me once, shame on you.
Burn me twice, shame on me.
I forgive.
But I never give another occasion to burn me again.
Burn me once and you’re done.
I forgive. I do not forget.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I have never understood giveing forgiveness to those that havent asked for it.
I know Christians will tell me I should, but I have allways struggled with that.

I’m with Sage. There’s no forgiveness if you’re not sorry. And those Christians are full of s~~~, because God doesn’t operate by that standard. Forgiveness is always contingent on repentance.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 38]

Many people are ignorant. They believe forgiveness necessarily means “forget” or “second chance”, which it does not have to mean.

People do not forgive because they feel to do so would be to condone the wrong deed of the perpetrator. They will hold on to anger and bitterness for years, poisoning their physical and mental health.

That is f~~~ed up when you think about it. You are not ‘winning’ by doing this, actually you are losing. You are keeping yourself a victim of the perpetrator or circumstances.

If you are fighting mental battles for years after, living in perpetual stress, you really need to realise you are killing yourself but that there is a way to move past it, and then work on this.

Of course you can’t just flippantly tell a man to forgive soon after something which has broken him. He needs time to heal and go through that process. But five or ten years later? He needs to have a serious think about his mindset, otherwise that event could define the rest of his life.

As said above by many, you forgive for yourself. Yes it is an act of compassion because you are showing kindness for someone who has wronged you. But in doing so you are the superior human. The one who wronged you in all likelihood did so out of ignorance, this does not in any way make what they did “okay” but it is to recognise that many people live in fear, confusion and anger and because of this, do wrong unto others.

Don’t be one of them. We are better than that.

[Anonymous 42]

Here’s a thread on the same issue for anyone that wants more on the subject:

At certain points a person is ready to let go of negative emotions and forgive

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I have learned to forgive for my own self preservation. I can be friends to those that hurt me, even deeply. Yet life is a choice and it is wise to remember the lessons we are given. Pain is a lesson we are meant to remember so we will not repeat the mistakes that caused us that pain. Nothing should be judged from that memory as this is the key to wisdom.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Biblical forgiveness is a tricky, yet necessary criteria to a regenerate heart in Christ. Jesus explained through the debtor who didn’t in turn forgive parable.

Modern times’ moral reletivism, equates it to feeling happy when being lied to. Then continuing forward in life.

The Saint Stephen was defending his stance for Christ. Stating that it’s not heresy against God Almighty. The people that were blind with rage and willing ignorence. Murdered him, before he left this planet he forgave those who were murdering him. A key crux of Biblical forgiveness is acknowledging the offenders’ ignorance. Then not holding it against them for the sake of Gods’ standard.

Hope this helps shed some light, Brother Tower.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[SoaringTigerParticipant 32]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

I have never understood giveing forgiveness to those that havent asked for it.
I know Christians will tell me I should, but I have allways struggled with that.

Forgiveness is always contingent on repentance.

I think THIS is the crux of Red Pill forgiveness. Anything else leads to insincere forgiveness, which will lead to unresolved grudges, IMHO.

Man small, why fall. Earth’s call, that’s all.

[Author]

Posts